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Santa Claus |
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Alice in Wonderland |
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Peter Pan |
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All of the above |
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Nobody |
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Do I look like I care who wears the imaginary hat? |
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I have no opinion and am just browsing. |
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I am a slashdot moron and will tick anything or take part in any flamewar, if I think it's funny. lulz!1! |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54776 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:10 am Post subject: |
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honeymak,
The GWN and Gentoo Releases have a lot of team members in common.
As they are volunteers, I guess (I have not asked) efforts gave been diverted away from the GWN towords other things. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail. |
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knifeyspoony n00b
Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Posts: 70
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:43 am Post subject: |
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blubbi wrote: | I think you all agree with me that it looks like gentoo stop evolving when you hit gentoo.org.
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Yeah, sewiously. It has been almost three months since the most recent post. Put something up there, even if be an explanation of why we're not putting something up there. It looks bad. |
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Kasumi_Ninja Veteran
Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 1825 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:32 am Post subject: |
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I have filed a bugreport here. You can subscribe to receive updates or add your own comments.
Quote: | Suggestion: place new packages and/or glsa information on the frontpage
Currently imo the website gives the impression of an inactive project. We could
'fix' this by placing news such as glsa's and or package information on the
frontpage. This will show to the outside world how active Gentoo really is |
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204402 _________________ Please add [solved] to the initial post's subject line if you feel your problem is resolved. Help answer the unanswered |
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bunder Bodhisattva
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 5941
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Aniruddha wrote: | I have filed a bugreport here. You can subscribe to receive updates or add your own comments.
Quote: | Suggestion: place new packages and/or glsa information on the frontpage
Currently imo the website gives the impression of an inactive project. We could
'fix' this by placing news such as glsa's and or package information on the
frontpage. This will show to the outside world how active Gentoo really is |
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204402 |
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewforum-f-16.html _________________
Neddyseagoon wrote: | The problem with leaving is that you can only do it once and it reduces your influence. |
banned from #gentoo since sept 2017 |
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Kasumi_Ninja Veteran
Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 1825 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:09 am Post subject: |
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bunder wrote: | https://forums.gentoo.org/viewforum-f-16.html |
I was more thinking something about like this
Quote: | Updated every 60 minutes |
Code: | GLSA Severity Package Description Bug
200712-25 Normal app-office/openoffice (and 2 more) OpenOffice.org: User-assisted arbitrary code execution 200771
200712-24 Normal app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-gtklibs AMD64 x86 emulation GTK+ library: User-assisted execution of arbitrary cod e 201860
200712-23 High net-analyzer/wireshark Wireshark: Multiple vulnerabilities 199958
200712-22 Normal www-client/opera Opera: Multiple vulnerabilities 202770
200712-21 Normal www-client/mozilla-firefox (and 3 more) Mozilla Firefox, SeaMonkey: Multiple vulnerabilities 198965
200712-20 High app-antivirus/clamav ClamAV: Multiple vulnerabilities 202762
200712-19 Normal app-admin/syslog-ng Syslog-ng: Denial of Service |
http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/glsa/
And this:
Quote: | Last update:
05 Jan 2008
09:37 UTC |
Code: | Saturday
* speex-1.2_beta3
* tigcc-0.96_beta7
* avr-libc-1.2.6
* brasero-0.7.0
* cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha…
* mplayer-1.0_rc2_p24929…
* transcode-1.0.4
* paludis-0.26.0_alpha5-…
* tuxpuck-0.8.2-r1
* abe-1.1
* perdition-1.17.1
* vanessa-socket-0.0.7
* vanessa-adt-0.0.7
* vanessa-adt-0.0.6
* mule-ucs-0.85_rc3
* git-sources-2.6.24_rc6…
* ganglia-3.0.6
* ftgl-2.1.2-r2
* man-1.6f
* input-utils-0.0.1_pre2…
* input-utils-0.0.1_pre2…
* libg15-1.2.5
* londonlaw-0.2.1-r1
* input-utils-0.0.1_pre2…
* dsh-0.25.9
* dsh-0.25.7
* dsh-0.25.3
* dsh-0.25.0
* dsh-0.24.0
* paludis-0.26.0_alpha5
* spe-0.8.3c-r1
* spe-0.8.2 |
http://packages.gentoo.org/ _________________ Please add [solved] to the initial post's subject line if you feel your problem is resolved. Help answer the unanswered |
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blubbi Guru
Joined: 27 Apr 2003 Posts: 564 Location: Halle (Saale), Germany
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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I think sabayon's website is a good example (thought I dont Like the layout and colour).
In our case "community activity" could be "New unanswerd posts" and/or "Threads with most activities"
"Headlines" could take it's content from "News & Announcements"
Then there could be a forum with "Tips&Tricks" where devs/mods/admins could paste the Tips&Tricks section from the GWN and those headlines are shown on the frontpage too.
Latest additions to the portage/sunrise tree would fit as well.
But thre month of inactivity is a shame for all of use.
regards
blubbi _________________ -->Please add [solved] to the initial post's subject line if you feel your problem is resolved.
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timaios n00b
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 14
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: http://gentoo.org is not upadated for a while..... why? |
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I would like to ask why?
Is there any specific reason that the official gentoo site is NOT updated since the 15th of October?
This thing makes me worry.....
I tried to find someone to explain it, in forums and news sites, but still I have no answer....
Please, if someone knows more about it , share the facts with us....
thank you in advance,
timaios |
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nixnut Bodhisattva
Joined: 09 Apr 2004 Posts: 10974 Location: the dutch mountains
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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merged above post here.
No GWN's have been published lately, so no site updates. _________________ Please add [solved] to the initial post's subject line if you feel your problem is resolved. Help answer the unanswered
talk is cheap. supply exceeds demand |
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steveL Watchman
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 5153 Location: The Peanut Gallery
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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I like both those ideas: better layout and sub-modules for content so user can choose which bits are interesting on the homepage (it's only a cookie ;) but I'd really like a "Top 10 Breakages" chart as well. It could be voted on by users in the forums (anyone over 50 posts and 3 months membership, say.) |
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bmichaelsen Veteran
Joined: 17 Nov 2002 Posts: 1277 Location: Hamburg, Germany
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Kasumi_Ninja Veteran
Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 1825 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:14 am Post subject: |
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I don't see which bug you mean. Is it the same as my bug (https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204402)? _________________ Please add [solved] to the initial post's subject line if you feel your problem is resolved. Help answer the unanswered
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bmichaelsen Veteran
Joined: 17 Nov 2002 Posts: 1277 Location: Hamburg, Germany
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:17 am Post subject: |
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No, I meant bugzilla already has a voting system on bugs that just has to be used (and integrated into the frontpage). |
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Kasumi_Ninja Veteran
Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 1825 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:20 am Post subject: |
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bmichaelsen wrote: | No, I meant bugzilla already has a voting system on bugs that just has to be used (and integrated into the frontpage). |
Ah ok, thanks for the explanation. _________________ Please add [solved] to the initial post's subject line if you feel your problem is resolved. Help answer the unanswered |
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concord Apprentice
Joined: 02 Oct 2005 Posts: 193
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: GWN is too old! |
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why GWN is still Oct. 15? it's too old! could somebody design a automatic program to collect and release fresh news on the home page of gentoo? _________________ AMD64 Desktop
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bunder Bodhisattva
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 5941
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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merged one post. _________________
Neddyseagoon wrote: | The problem with leaving is that you can only do it once and it reduces your influence. |
banned from #gentoo since sept 2017 |
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steveL Watchman
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 5153 Location: The Peanut Gallery
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Yeah that's lovely, and I agree it should be on the front page, but it's not quite what I meant: I meant breakages as defined by the users. Stuff like expat would have stayed in the chart for ages, for example. So it's not about whether there's a defined upgrade procedure or anything, but more about what glitches people are having in the update cycle. _________________
creaker wrote: | systemd. It is a really ass pain |
update - "a most excellent portage wrapper"
#friendly-coders -- We're still here for you™ ;) |
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bmichaelsen Veteran
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Paapaa l33t
Joined: 14 Aug 2005 Posts: 955 Location: Finland
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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And again. Why is there no info on Gentoo homepage?? It takes 1min to post a official announcement stating the state (and perhaps requesting new staff). And we would be happy.
I'd like to see a better integration between Gentoo homepage, Gentoo forums and Gentoo mailing lists. No, I don't know what kind of integration I mean. _________________ Paludis, the way packages are meant to be managed. |
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ryker Guru
Joined: 28 May 2003 Posts: 412 Location: Portage, IN
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:22 am Post subject: |
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bmichaelsen wrote: | http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/54138 |
Thank you for posting that link. Somehow I missed it and it explains very well the reasoning for the GWN being MIA and future plans. _________________ Athlon 64 3200+, 80G WD sata hd + 200G IDE, 1G Geil DDR400, MSI K8T Neo
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psomas Retired Dev
Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 212 Location: Greece
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:26 am Post subject: |
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unfortunately,from the post at the dev mailing list, i suppose that things don't go very well for gentoo...
but,as said above, at least the homepage should be updated...
hope things will get better... _________________ myblog
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mijenix Guru
Joined: 22 Apr 2003 Posts: 393 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:51 am Post subject: |
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not many people has time to add content for a GWM.
Why we don't use the content from the thousands of Gentoo/Linux blogs? |
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psomas Retired Dev
Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 212 Location: Greece
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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i read at the -dev mailing list, that gwn is probably going to start again as gmn(monthly newsletter)... _________________ myblog
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blubbi Guru
Joined: 27 Apr 2003 Posts: 564 Location: Halle (Saale), Germany
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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I am kinda upset...
Gentoo is community driven. But regarding these questions the community is ignored for 100% (at least it looks like this to me)
The same happened to the redesign of the Hompage... exactly NOTHING.
But this is worse now. This effects directly the rebutation and "the first look" of gentoo.
Instead of fixing that, what would be easy... cause you would just need to announce that the GWN will no longer be published weekly and is currently reconsidered.
And why not take up some suggestions from the community... forum activity, GLSA, new portage stuff etc..
But I see, the devs are going to make their own decisions.
And it looks to me that there is no one responsible for the HP... every DEV seems to be responsible, so we have to call in a council and it not ALL DEVS agree with a suggestion, it is discardet. SO nothing happens...
Have fun. _________________ -->Please add [solved] to the initial post's subject line if you feel your problem is resolved.
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oldefortran l33t
Joined: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 652
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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bmichaelsen wrote: | http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/54138 |
That was very sad to read
I can't help feel a little worried over the future of Gentoo. |
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ryker Guru
Joined: 28 May 2003 Posts: 412 Location: Portage, IN
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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oldefortran wrote: | bmichaelsen wrote: | http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/54138 |
That was very sad to read
I can't help feel a little worried over the future of Gentoo. |
http://blog.funtoo.org/2008/01/here-my-offer.html
Here's a chance to make things better. _________________ Athlon 64 3200+, 80G WD sata hd + 200G IDE, 1G Geil DDR400, MSI K8T Neo
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