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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 8:55 pm    Post subject: scheda di rete e ping strano Reply with quote

Ciao a tutti, scusate se rompo un po' troppo...però sembra che i problemi saltino fuori tutti allo stesso momento :cry:
ALlora pingando un sito internet ho il seguente output:

Code:

PING www.gentoo.org (195.66.242.4): 56 octets data
64 octets from 195.66.242.4: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=879.3 ms
64 octets from 195.66.242.4: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=906.4 ms
64 octets from 195.66.242.4: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=1006.0 ms
wrong data byte #0 should be 0xe7 but was 0xe6e6 3f f6 3e 7e 87 b 0
   8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27
   28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
64 octets from 195.66.242.4: icmp_seq=3 ttl=57 time=1135.8 ms
wrong data byte #0 should be 0xe8 but was 0xe7e7 3f f6 3e 81 87 b 0
   8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27
   28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
64 octets from 195.66.242.4: icmp_seq=4 ttl=57 time=1225.5 ms
wrong data byte #0 should be 0xe9 but was 0xe8e8 3f f6 3e 7c 87 b 0
   8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27
   28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
64 octets from 195.66.242.4: icmp_seq=5 ttl=57 time=1255.2
ms


eccetera eccetera...

Se però faccio un ping all'altro pc in locale, il ping funziona correttamente senza errori strani.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 9:43 pm    Post subject: Re: scheda di rete e ping strano Reply with quote

Sembra esserci qc problema quando il delay aumenta a dismisura.
Voglio dire un time di 1 sec e' eccessivo... 8O Che connessione hai?
Cosa c'e' tra te e gentoo.org?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tra me e internet c'é l'altro pc che fa da gateway. Il fatto é che fino a qualche giorno fa il ping funzionava, e anche adesso un po' va un po' non va.
Oh grande saggio cosa suggerisci per il mio umile problema? :lol:
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JacoMozzi wrote:
Il fatto é che fino a qualche giorno fa il ping funzionava, e anche adesso un po' va un po' non va.

Ma non sembra che il ping non vada, e' solo che quando il delay aumenta, anche la possibilia' che il pacchetto si rovini segue la statistica :)
Piu' che altro, sembra che sia un problema di linea (hai adsl?).
Prova a cambiare l'mtu (abbassarlo) e/o a diminuire il packet size.
Infine, che versione di ppp hai?
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Oh grande saggio cosa suggerisci per il mio umile problema? :lol:

8O :wink:
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grazie mille Cerri, ho un ADSL 256 / 64

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Prova a cambiare l'mtu (abbassarlo) e/o a diminuire il packet size.


Cercando in internet ho visto che dovrei mettere in uno script d'avvio una riga con ifconfig eth0..... il fatto é che nn so che valori mettere per l'mtu e per il packet size, mi potresti consigliare.

La versione di ppp é la 2.4.1
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allora, per l'mtu fai
Code:
# ifconfig $INTERFACCIAPPP mtu 512

Se fosse questo, lamentati perche' l'MTU standard e' 1500 e' deve essere questo.
Qual'e' l'output del comando
Code:
# traceroute www.gentoo.org
?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

traceroute www.gentoo.org da come output:

Code:

[root@amd root]# traceroute www.gentoo.org
traceroute: Warning: www.gentoo.org has multiple addresses; using 128.193.0.36
traceroute to www.gentoo.org (128.193.0.36), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  adslplus.zur01a02.sunrise.ch (193.192.254.74)  3668.813 ms  2059.539 ms  1179.697 ms
 2  f5-21.zur01s10.sunrise.ch (195.141.69.193)  1449.710 ms  889.799 ms  919.745 ms
 3  g5-1.zur01b03.sunrise.ch (193.192.234.197)  2429.497 ms  1019.757 ms  1489.784 ms
 4  srp12-0-0.zur14s03.sunrise.ch (193.192.227.57)  1439.572 ms  1209.652 ms  2609.534 ms
 5  gigabitethernet4-2-104.hsipaccess1.Zurich1.Level3.net (213.242.67.21)  2819.393 ms  1719.603 ms  1788.628 ms
 6  ae0-12.mpls2.Zurich1.Level3.net (213.242.66.18)  3460.462 ms  1859.719 ms  1749.628 ms
 7  so-0-0-0.mp1.London2.Level3.net (212.187.128.61)  1639.569 ms  1619.623 ms  1359.705 ms
 8  unknown.Level3.net (212.187.128.138)  1349.688 ms  1279.657 ms  1329.718 ms
 9  so-1-0-0.mp2.Seattle1.Level3.net (209.247.10.133)  1749.724 ms  489.906 ms  289.863 ms
10  gig10-1.hsa2.Seattle1.level3.net (209.247.9.90)  1529.627 ms  1939.514 ms  3689.288 ms
11  unknown.Level3.net (63.211.200.246)  4589.118 ms  1699.712 ms  4259.099 ms
12  ptld-core2-gw.nero.net (207.98.64.9)  2359.537 ms  1479.653 ms  1129.851 ms
13  ptld-core1-gw.nero.net (207.98.64.178)  1089.816 ms  2779.324 ms  3509.325 ms
14  corv-car1-gw.nero.net (207.98.64.22)  1889.597 ms  1569.617 ms  4009.314 ms
15  orstbrdr-gw.orst.edu (199.201.139.1)  2439.423 ms  2219.511 ms  1829.722 ms
16  orstsw1-gw.orst.edu (128.193.6.21)  1449.605 ms  2679.441 ms  1259.884 ms
17  falcon.gentoo.oregonstate.edu (128.193.0.36)  1089.738 ms  999.613 ms  1109.752 ms



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fai lo stesso test di ping con i seguenti host:
Code:
 1  adslplus.zur01a02.sunrise.ch
2  f5-21.zur01s10.sunrise.ch
3  g5-1.zur01b03.sunrise.ch
4  srp12-0-0.zur14s03.sunrise.ch

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:17 pm    Post subject: Ok Reply with quote

1) adslplus.zur01a02.sunrise.ch
Code:

[root@amd root]# ping adslplus.zur01a02.sunrise.ch
PING adslplus.zur01a02.sunrise.ch (193.192.254.74) from 62.167.61.84 : 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from adslplus.zur01a02.sunrise.ch (193.192.254.74): icmp_seq=1 ttl=127 time=948 ms
64 bytes from adslplus.zur01a02.sunrise.ch (193.192.254.74): icmp_seq=2 ttl=127 time=2408 ms
64 bytes from adslplus.zur01a02.sunrise.ch (193.192.254.74): icmp_seq=3 ttl=127 time=3315 ms
64 bytes from adslplus.zur01a02.sunrise.ch (193.192.254.74): icmp_seq=4 ttl=127 time=2766 ms
64 bytes from adslplus.zur01a02.sunrise.ch (193.192.254.74): icmp_seq=5 ttl=127 time=928 ms
64 bytes from adslplus.zur01a02.sunrise.ch (193.192.254.74): icmp_seq=7 ttl=127 time=1764 ms
64 bytes from adslplus.zur01a02.sunrise.ch (193.192.254.74): icmp_seq=8 ttl=127 time=1234 ms


È tantissimo 8O 8O 8O

2) f5-21.zur01s10.sunrise.ch
Code:

[root@amd root]# ping f5-21.zur01s10.sunrise.ch
PING f5-21.zur01s10.sunrise.ch (195.141.69.193) from 62.167.61.84 : 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from f5-21.zur01s10.sunrise.ch (195.141.69.193): icmp_seq=1 ttl=254 time=1799 ms
64 bytes from f5-21.zur01s10.sunrise.ch (195.141.69.193): icmp_seq=2 ttl=254 time=1562 ms
64 bytes from f5-21.zur01s10.sunrise.ch (195.141.69.193): icmp_seq=3 ttl=254 time=939 ms
64 bytes from f5-21.zur01s10.sunrise.ch (195.141.69.193): icmp_seq=4 ttl=254 time=799 ms
64 bytes from f5-21.zur01s10.sunrise.ch (195.141.69.193): icmp_seq=5 ttl=254 time=859 ms
64 bytes from f5-21.zur01s10.sunrise.ch (195.141.69.193): icmp_seq=6 ttl=254 time=1209 ms
64 bytes from f5-21.zur01s10.sunrise.ch (195.141.69.193): icmp_seq=7 ttl=254 time=980 ms
64 bytes from f5-21.zur01s10.sunrise.ch (195.141.69.193): icmp_seq=8 ttl=254 time=489 ms
64 bytes from f5-21.zur01s10.sunrise.ch (195.141.69.193): icmp_seq=9 ttl=254 time=40.2 ms
64 bytes from f5-21.zur01s10.sunrise.ch (195.141.69.193): icmp_seq=10 ttl=254 time=619 ms
64 bytes from f5-21.zur01s10.sunrise.ch (195.141.69.193): icmp_seq=11 ttl=254 time=919 ms
64 bytes from f5-21.zur01s10.sunrise.ch (195.141.69.193): icmp_seq=12 ttl=254 time=219 ms
64 bytes from f5-21.zur01s10.sunrise.ch (195.141.69.193): icmp_seq=13 ttl=254 time=2579 ms





3) g5-1.zur01b03.sunrise.ch
Code:


[root@amd root]# ping g5-1.zur01b03.sunrise.ch
ping: unknown host g5-1.zur01b03.sunrise.ch



4) srp12-0-0.zur14s03.sunrise.ch

Code:

[root@amd root]# ping srp12-0-0.zur14s03.sunrise.ch
ping: unknown host srp12-0-0.zur14s03.sunrise.ch


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2003 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pinga gli indirizzi ip degli altri host g5-1.zur01b03.sunrise.ch e srp12-0-0.zur14s03.sunrise.ch .
Queste prove devono essere effettuate quando hai quell'errore che accennavi all'inzio del post.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scusa per il ritardo....
Io ho provato, sia quando dà l'errore, sia quando non lo da. Però il ping da sempre "unknown host".
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non ci siamo capiti.
Al posto di g5-1.zur01b03.sunrise.ch utilizza 193.192.234.197 e al posto di srp12-0-0.zur14s03.sunrise.ch utilizza 193.192.227.57.
Quello che sto cercando di capire e' se il problema dei pacchetti rovinati e' conseguenza di un host della rete del tuo provider (SunRise?) oppure no.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scusa sono rimbambito 8O 8O
Ecco i risultati dei ping:

1) g5-1.zur01b03.sunrise.ch
Code:

[giakomino@amd linuxdirty]$ ping 193.192.234.197
PING 193.192.234.197 (193.192.234.197) from 62.167.206.185 : 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 193.192.234.197: icmp_seq=1 ttl=254 time=1852 ms
64 bytes from 193.192.234.197: icmp_seq=2 ttl=254 time=1876 ms
64 bytes from 193.192.234.197: icmp_seq=3 ttl=254 time=1996 ms
64 bytes from 193.192.234.197: icmp_seq=4 ttl=254 time=2125 ms
64 bytes from 193.192.234.197: icmp_seq=5 ttl=254 time=2145 ms
64 bytes from 193.192.234.197: icmp_seq=6 ttl=254 time=2185 ms
64 bytes from 193.192.234.197: icmp_seq=7 ttl=254 time=2135 ms
64 bytes from 193.192.234.197: icmp_seq=8 ttl=254 time=1585 ms




2) srp12-0-0.zur14s03.sunrise.ch
Code:

[giakomino@amd linuxdirty]$ ping 193.192.227.57
PING 193.192.227.57 (193.192.227.57) from 62.167.206.185 : 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 193.192.227.57: icmp_seq=1 ttl=253 time=4327 ms
64 bytes from 193.192.227.57: icmp_seq=2 ttl=253 time=5099 ms
64 bytes from 193.192.227.57: icmp_seq=3 ttl=253 time=4369 ms
64 bytes from 193.192.227.57: icmp_seq=4 ttl=253 time=3599 ms

8O
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qui risulta tutto ok.
Ma ora hai ancora problemi di ping "strani"???
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Il fatto é che i problemi ci sono spesso. Ma i tempi così lunghi di risposta al ping sono giusti?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

L'ultimo test che puoi fare e' questo:
Code:
# ping 213.242.67.21

Perche' e' l'ultimo "host" attaccato alla rete del tuo provider.
Sinceramente i tempi di risposta sono esagerati, anche per un'adsl, ma mi da l'idea di uno shaping da qualche parte un po' sovraccarico... che comunque non giustifica il ping "rovinato".
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:

[giakomino@amd linuxdirty]$ ping 213.242.67.21
PING 213.242.67.21 (213.242.67.21) from 62.167.206.185 : 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 213.242.67.21: icmp_seq=1 ttl=238 time=459 ms
64 bytes from 213.242.67.21: icmp_seq=2 ttl=238 time=465 ms
64 bytes from 213.242.67.21: icmp_seq=3 ttl=238 time=425 ms
64 bytes from 213.242.67.21: icmp_seq=4 ttl=238 time=715 ms
64 bytes from 213.242.67.21: icmp_seq=5 ttl=238 time=655 ms
64 bytes from 213.242.67.21: icmp_seq=6 ttl=238 time=605 ms
64 bytes from 213.242.67.21: icmp_seq=7 ttl=238 time=584 ms

Ecco fatto.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ma quel ping fallisce solo con gentoo??
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Il ping strano fallisce con qsiasi host 8O 8O
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