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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: cmake-2.4.7-r1 and soprano-9999 Reply with quote

Ingmarv wrote:

It's a missing dependency in the ebuild (due to changes in soprano SVN), I was actually just working on it. Or rather, I was adding soprano beta3 to portage. Should be fixed soon. For now you could emerge clucene ( the missing dep ).
Thanks though. :-)


Well, I had clucene merged already, that was the thing. It had been pulled in as a dep for either soprano or for kdelibs, and I had already merged it, but the newer cmake couldn't find the headers it needed still.

Actually, if you look, those header files are in the soprano sources, not the clucene sources. Apparently the older cmake knows (by whatever means, looks like it could be a config file, but I don't pretend to even close to understand them yet) to look in the correct subdir of the parent dir of where it's working at that point, but the newer cmake doesn't, perhaps because it changed the format of the config file or something and doesn't recognize the older one.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:53 pm    Post subject: collision-ignore cmake/modules/*.cmake? Reply with quote

Both kdelibs and kdebase try to own these two files in /usr/kde/svn/share/apps/cmake/modules:

  • FindLibraryWithDebug.cmake
  • FindSoprano.cmake

Are those safe to COLLISION_IGNORE? Will there be others and can the entire dir be safely ignored?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:01 am    Post subject: Changing the background Reply with quote

I've got kde4 working pretty well now, but I can't seem to change the background. I've messed around with all the system settings dialogs, but I still haven't managed to get it to not be the flower background. Any one have any similar problems?

If you need any of my configs, I will post them, but I don't know what would be relevant here.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:34 am    Post subject: Re: Changing the background Reply with quote

ddeflyer wrote:
I've got kde4 working pretty well now, but I can't seem to change the background. I've messed around with all the system settings dialogs, but I still haven't managed to get it to not be the flower background. Any one have any similar problems?

If you need any of my configs, I will post them, but I don't know what would be relevant here.


I think it's normal at current state of develop, I never see nothing to change the background image...
Now, after this night build, I see that oxygen theme is set as default, but the shortkeys don't work anymore...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:40 am    Post subject: Re: Changing the background Reply with quote

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ddeflyer wrote:
I've got kde4 working pretty well now, but I can't seem to change the background. I've messed around with all the system settings dialogs, but I still haven't managed to get it to not be the flower background. Any one have any similar problems?

If you need any of my configs, I will post them, but I don't know what would be relevant here.


I think it's normal at current state of develop, I never see nothing to change the background image...
Now, after this night build, I see that oxygen theme is set as default, but the shortkeys don't work anymore...


Hmm, is there a configuration file somewhere in ~/.kde that I could change to get the background to change?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:52 am    Post subject: Re: cmake-2.4.7-r1 and soprano-9999 Reply with quote

Gentoo.Duncan wrote:
Ingmarv wrote:

It's a missing dependency in the ebuild (due to changes in soprano SVN).. For now you could emerge clucene ( the missing dep ).


Well, I had clucene merged already, that was the thing.


Whatever you did, it fixed it. The latest soprano-9999 ebuild works with ~amd64 cmake. =8^) It wasn't, yesterday when I posted.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: cmake-2.4.7-r1 and soprano-9999 Reply with quote

I fixed krunner, konqueror, kate & finally added kde-l10n ebuilds for the latest beta tarball. I'll whip up an svn ebuild too sometime :-)

Gentoo.Duncan wrote:
Well, I had clucene merged already, that was the thing. It had been pulled in as a dep for either soprano or for kdelibs, and I had already merged it, but the newer cmake couldn't find the headers it needed still.


You're right, even though there's still a missing dependency there ;).
But the problem was that soprano include the soprano headers on the livesystem, instead of those in the build directory (ie the new ones).

Gentoo.Duncan wrote:
Both kdelibs and kdebase try to own these two files in /usr/kde/svn/share/apps/cmake/modules:

  • FindLibraryWithDebug.cmake
  • FindSoprano.cmake

Are those safe to COLLISION_IGNORE? Will there be others and can the entire dir be safely ignored?


Thanks, will fix. If collision ignore only complains about *.cmake files, it should be safe to ignore those indeed.
I will split kdebase-9999 into kdebase|kdebase-runtime|kdebase-workspace, to be conform the tarball releases soon.

dracula1985 wrote:
Now, after this night build, I see that oxygen theme is set as default, but the shortkeys don't work anymore...

Sounds like the problem described here: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2007/11/day-spent-fixing-annoyances.html
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Today's kde merge errors, and the workarounds/fixes I found Reply with quote

Is there still a working copy of that svn-rebuild-updated-only script around, somewhere? I could sure use it.


  • I'm running ~amd64
  • Serious parallel makes, MAKEOPTS="-j30 -l20" or even "-j"
  • Merging the live-svn kde*-9999.4 versions
  • LDFLAGS="-Wl,-z,now -Wl,--as-needed"
  • glibc-2.7, now merged (from today's ~amd64 update)


Today's bugs:

  • kdeartwork, kdesvn #733875

    Builds to 100%, error in linking:

    CMakeFiles/kwave.kss.dir/wave.o: In function `Wave::paintGL()':
    /tmp/portage/kde-base/kdeartwork-9999.4/work/kdeartwork-9999.4/kscreensaver/kdesavers/wave.cpp:282: undefined reference to `gluBeginSurface'
    /tmp/portage/kde-base/kdeartwork-9999.4/work/kdeartwork-9999.4/kscreensaver/kdesavers/wave.cpp:284: undefined reference to `gluNurbsSurface'

    + other similar `glu*` undefined references. OpenGL? I'm running the Radeon free drivers and Mesa.
    Sure enough, creating an appropriate entry in package.use with -opengl bypassed the problem, for now. I don't normally use the screensavers anyway, so no big loss.

  • kdemultimedia (again)

    Multiple file collisions:
    kde-base/kdebase-9999.4
    * /usr/kde/svn/share/icons/crystalsvg/64x64/apps/kfontview.png
    * /usr/kde/svn/share/icons/crystalsvg/48x48/apps/kfontview.png
    * /usr/kde/svn/share/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/apps/kfontview.png
    * /usr/kde/svn/share/icons/crystalsvg/22x22/apps/kfontview.png
    * /usr/kde/svn/share/icons/crystalsvg/16x16/apps/kfontview.png

    Merged (with -opengl) after adding /usr/kde/svn/share/icons/ to COLLISION_IGNORE

  • kdeutils, kdesvn #733878

    [ 96%] Built target kregexpeditor
    Linking CXX shared module ../lib/libkregexpeditorgui.so
    Linking CXX shared library ../lib/libkregexpeditorcommon.so
    /usr/lib64/python2.5/config/libpython2.5.a(dynload_shlib.o): In function
    `_PyImport_GetDynLoadFunc': (.text+0xd5): undefined reference to `dlsym'
    /usr/lib64/python2.5/config/libpython2.5.a(dynload_shlib.o): In function
    `_PyImport_GetDynLoadFunc': (.text+0x13c): undefined reference to `dlopen'
    [snip...]
    /usr/lib64/python2.5/config/libpython2.5.a(posixmodule.o): In function
    `posix_forkpty': (.text+0x2e19): undefined reference to `forkpty'
    /usr/lib64/python2.5/config/libpython2.5.a(posixmodule.o): In function
    `posix_openpty': (.text+0x2e76): undefined reference to `openpty'
    collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
    make[2]: *** [lib/libsuperkaramba.so.4.0.0] Error 1
    make[1]: *** [superkaramba/src/CMakeFiles/superkaramba.dir/all] Error 2

    dlopen, etc? Aren't those standard glibc dynamic loader functions?

    Removing -Wl,--as-needed from LDFLAGS (using /etc/portage/env/kdeutils) worked.
    FWIW: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/asneeded.xml#doc_chap2

    I can try to track it down a bit closer myself and followup, if necessary, but I don't really know what I'm doing, so it's likely to take you guys less time.

  • kdemultimedia, kdesvn #733883

    File collision with kdebase kdesvn # 733866
    /usr/kde/svn/share/icons/oxygen/22x22/actions/kscd-dock.png

    (That was before I added the entire icons dir to COLLISION_IGNORE, for kdeartwork.)


That's after merging kdebase with collision-ignore set to avoid the cmake files reported yesterday.

Merged fine today:

  • strigi
  • clucene
  • soprano
  • qimageblitz
  • kdelibs
  • kdepimlibs
  • kdegraphics
  • kdegames
  • kdetoys
  • kdepim

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Changing the background Reply with quote

dracula1985 wrote:
Now, after this night build, I see that oxygen theme is set as default, but the shortkeys don't work anymore...


This is an issue of kded when at least one kded module has bad symbols, see Aron's post.

Look in your .xsession-errors for the causing module and recompile it.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phlogiston wrote:
I can't download kdebase-runtime-3.95.0.tar.bz2. Whats up?


I couldn't either. Then i added this mirror to my mirrors.conf
Code:
http://kde-mirror.freenux.org/unstable/latest/src/platform/


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kdebase has broken for me today. I've tried rebuilding everything in various orders, but it's not happening.

Code:
[ 18%] Built target handbook
[ 18%] Generating ui_nepomukconfigwidget.h
[ 18%] Generating nepomukserversettings.h, nepomukserversettings.cpp
[ 18%] Generating nepomukserverinterface.cpp, nepomukserverinterface.h
[ 18%] Generating nepomukserverinterface.moc
[ 18%] Generating kcm_nepomuk_automoc.cpp
Generating nepomukserverkcm.moc
Generating strigicontroller.moc
Scanning dependencies of target kcm_nepomuk
[ 18%] Building CXX object runtime/nepomuk/CMakeFiles/kcm_nepomuk.dir/kcm_nep
omuk_automoc.o
[ 18%] Building CXX object runtime/nepomuk/CMakeFiles/kcm_nepomuk.dir/strigic
ontroller.o
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdebase-9999.4/work/kdebase-9999.4/runtime/nepomuk/
strigicontroller.cpp:116: warning: unused parameter âexitCodeâ
[ 18%] Building CXX object runtime/nepomuk/CMakeFiles/kcm_nepomuk.dir/nepomuk
serverkcm.o
[ 18%] Building CXX object runtime/nepomuk/CMakeFiles/kcm_nepomuk.dir/nepomuk
serversettings.o
[ 18%] Building CXX object runtime/nepomuk/CMakeFiles/kcm_nepomuk.dir/nepomuk
serverinterface.o
Linking CXX shared module ../../lib/kcm_nepomuk.so
CMakeFiles/kcm_nepomuk.dir/nepomukserverkcm.o: In function `Nepomuk::ServerCo
nfigModule::load()':
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdebase-9999.4/work/kdebase-9999.4/runtime/nepomuk/
nepomukserverkcm.cpp:85: undefined reference to `StrigiClient::StrigiClient()
'
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdebase-9999.4/work/kdebase-9999.4/runtime/nepomuk/
nepomukserverkcm.cpp:85: undefined reference to `StrigiClient::getIndexedDire
ctories() const'
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdebase-9999.4/work/kdebase-9999.4/runtime/nepomuk/
nepomukserverkcm.cpp:85: undefined reference to `StrigiClient::~StrigiClient(
)'
CMakeFiles/kcm_nepomuk.dir/nepomukserverkcm.o: In function `Nepomuk::ServerCo
nfigModule::save()':
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdebase-9999.4/work/kdebase-9999.4/runtime/nepomuk/
nepomukserverkcm.cpp:116: undefined reference to `StrigiClient::StrigiClient(
)'
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdebase-9999.4/work/kdebase-9999.4/runtime/nepomuk/
nepomukserverkcm.cpp:116: undefined reference to `StrigiClient::setIndexedDir
ectories(QStringList const&)'
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdebase-9999.4/work/kdebase-9999.4/runtime/nepomuk/
nepomukserverkcm.cpp:116: undefined reference to `StrigiClient::~StrigiClient
()'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [lib/kcm_nepomuk.so] Error 1
make[1]: *** [runtime/nepomuk/CMakeFiles/kcm_nepomuk.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2
 *
 * ERROR: kde-base/kdebase-9999.4 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *               ebuild.sh, line 1701:  Called dyn_compile
 *               ebuild.sh, line 1039:  Called qa_call 'src_compile'
 *               ebuild.sh, line   44:  Called src_compile
 *   kdebase-9999.4.ebuild, line  128:  Called kde4-base_src_compile
 *        kde4-base.eclass, line  286:  Called kde4-base_src_make
 *        kde4-base.eclass, line  392:  Called cmake-utils_src_make
 *      cmake-utils.eclass, line  118:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *              emake || die "Make failed!"
 *  The die message:
 *   Make failed!
 *
 * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if r
elevant.
 * A complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdebase-9999
.4/temp/build.log'.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's broken here too, so i guess its a svn-rev problem.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kdebase is broken for me as well. You can temporarily fix the build error by editing kdebase/runtime/nepomuk/CMakeLists.txt

Change the two occurances of
Code:
STRIGIQTDBUSCLIENT_LIBRARY

to
Code:
STRIGI_STRIGIQTDBUSCLIENT_LIBRARY

and it should build fine.

By the way, will KDE4 ship with an IRC client? As far as I can see, Konversation is only located in branches/extragear/kde3/network/konversation/. Does this mean there are no plans for a KDE4 version yet?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

emerge kdebase-9999.4 gives me following error.

Code:

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 * ERROR: kde-base/kdeartwork-9999.4 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *                  ebuild.sh, line 1717:  Called dyn_setup
 *                  ebuild.sh, line  768:  Called qa_call 'pkg_setup'
 *                  ebuild.sh, line   44:  Called pkg_setup
 *   kdeartwork-9999.4.ebuild, line   20:  Called built_with_use 'kde-base/kdebase:kde-svn' 'opengl'
 *              eutils.eclass, line 1665:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *      [[ -z ${PKG} ]] && die "Unable to resolve $1 to an installed package"
 *  The die message:
 *   Unable to resolve kde-base/kdebase:kde-svn to an installed package
 *


the other ebuilds seem to compile without problems for me.
Its a brandnew install.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ColiverHB:

Today, I was experiencing the same problem as you with kdebase-workspace. I was able to "solve" it by switching temporarily from paludis to portage. Portage complains with the same errors, but at least it finishes the merge. You may want to try this, too.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kavol - thank You for trying to help my with my problem, but I've managed to ommit it, with the simplest possible way - I've got the (almost ;) ) new Gentoo installation, for KDE4 testing purposes, not affected by the problem mentioned earlier.
I've updated and copied my healthy system (which I use for everyday work) to the separate partition, and uninstalled unnecessary packages (mainly KDE3). Now I'll try to compile all kde4-svn ebuilds - I hope, this time without problems.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is kdelibs broken for anybody?

Does anybody have the unmasks for the beta?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zxy wrote:
I couldn't either. Then i added this mirror to my mirrors.conf

I fixed this a few days ago, actually I couldn't reproduce it because I kept trying to fetch the monolithic kdebase-runtime, and the problem existed only when fetch splits. ;)

voonte wrote:
By the way, will KDE4 ship with an IRC client? As far as I can see, Konversation is only located in branches/extragear/kde3/network/konversation/. Does this mean there are no plans for a KDE4 version yet?

There's no konversation for KDE4 yet, I suspect that development for this will start when kdelibs 4.0 is released.
I'd love to be proven wrong though. :-)

baigsabeeh wrote:
Is kdelibs broken for anybody?

Which version of kdelibs ? If you're using SVN, did you recompile all dependencies before compiling kdelibs ? If the problem still persists, please pastebin ( http://rafb.net/paste ) the _full_ build.log, thanks.

baigsabeeh wrote:
Does anybody have the unmasks for the beta?

Everyone does: there's a sample package.keywords file in Documentation/ , in your overlay checkout. :-)
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I got it to build. Apparently, qt needs to be built with the zlib flag for kdelibs to build properly. Here's another thing. How are we supposed to start KDE4? When I use the default startkde script, it starts, but there is no kwin. Then I need to kill the original instance of kwin and start another. Is anyone experiencing this? The second thing is that KDE complains that it doesn't find any mutlimedia backend. What does this mean? Is it a USE flags issue?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys,

I just wanted to update kde 3.94.0 to 3.95.0, but when emerge tries to unmerge the old version I get the following error:

Code:
 >>> Unmerging kde-base/ksysguard-3.94.0...
*
 * ERROR: kde-base/ksysguard-3.94.0 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *                 ebuild.sh, line 1590:  Called source '/var/db/pkg/kde-base/ksysguard-3.94.0/ksysguard-3.94.0.ebuild'
 *   ksysguard-3.94.0.ebuild, line    6:  Called inherit 'kde4-meta'
 *                 ebuild.sh, line 1335:  Called qa_source '/usr/portage/local/layman/kde/eclass/kde4-meta.eclass'
 *                 ebuild.sh, line   34:  Called source '/usr/portage/local/layman/kde/eclass/kde4-meta.eclass'
 *          kde4-meta.eclass, line   56:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *              *)      die "${ECLASS}: Error: unrecognized version ${PV}, could not set SRC_URI" ;;
 *  The die message:
 *   kde4-meta: Error: unrecognized version 3.94.0, could not set SRC_URI
 *
 * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant.
 * A complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/binpkgs/kde-base/ksysguard-3.94.0/temp/build.log'.
 * This ebuild is from an overlay: '/var/db/pkg/'
 *
!!! FAILED prerm: 1

A removal phase of the 'kde-base/ksysguard-3.94.0' package has failed
with exit value 1. The problem occurred while executing the ebuild
located at
'/var/db/pkg/kde-base/ksysguard-3.94.0/ksysguard-3.94.0.ebuild'. If
necessary, manually remove the ebuild in order to skip the execution of
removal phases.


Any hints?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hubsif wrote:
Hey guys,

I just wanted to update kde 3.94.0 to 3.95.0, but when emerge tries to unmerge the old version I get the following error:
<snip>


Fixed in SVN, thanks. :-)
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
[ 64%] Building CXX object workspace/khotkeys/kcontrol/CMakeFiles/kcm_khotkeys.dir/voice_input_widget_ui.moc.o
Linking CXX shared module ../../../lib/kcm_khotkeys.so
[ 64%] Built target kcm_khotkeys
make: *** [all] Error 2


Anyone else having this error?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ kuschelkriterium:

Thanks for the info! And Ugggg... It feels so dirty going back.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In kde-base/kdebase-workspace,
Anybody have any idea how I could fix this?
Code:

[  7%] Building CXX object libs/plasma/CMakeFiles/plasma.dir/widgets/pushbutton.o
[  7%] Building CXX object libs/plasma/CMakeFiles/plasma.dir/widgets/radiobutton.o
[  7%] Building CXX object libs/plasma/CMakeFiles/plasma.dir/widgets/widget.o
[  7%] Building CXX object libs/plasma/CMakeFiles/plasma.dir/widgets/signalplotter.o
[  8%] Building CXX object libs/plasma/CMakeFiles/plasma.dir/widgets/meter.o
[  8%] Building CXX object libs/plasma/CMakeFiles/plasma.dir/glapplet.o
make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/kde/3.95.0/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.kde.Solid.Networking.Client.xml', needed by `solid/networking/kded/clientadaptor.cpp'.  Stop.
make[1]: *** [solid/networking/kded/CMakeFiles/kded_networkstatus.dir/all] Error 2
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdebase-workspace-3.95.0-r1/work/kdebase-workspace-3.95.0/libs/plasma/glapplet.cpp:163: warning: unused parameter ‘contentsRect’
Linking CXX shared library ../../lib/libplasma.so
[  8%] Built target plasma
make: *** [all] Error 2


Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:28 am    Post subject: kdebase-9999.4 emerge error Reply with quote

I am getting this error when emerging kdebase-9999.4:

Quote:
Linking CXX executable khotkeys_update
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [workspace/khotkeys/update/khotkeys_update] Error 1
make[1]: *** [workspace/khotkeys/update/CMakeFiles/khotkeys_update.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2
*
* ERROR: kde-base/kdebase-9999.4 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 1701: Called dyn_compile
* ebuild.sh, line 1039: Called qa_call 'src_compile'
* ebuild.sh, line 44: Called src_compile
* kdebase-9999.4.ebuild, line 128: Called kde4-base_src_compile
* kde4-base.eclass, line 290: Called kde4-base_src_make
* kde4-base.eclass, line 396: Called cmake-utils_src_make
* cmake-utils.eclass, line 124: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* emake || die "Make failed!"
* The die message:
* Make failed!
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant.
* A complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdebase-9999.4/temp/bui
ld.log'.
*

* Messages for package kde-base/kdebase-9999.4:

*
* ERROR: kde-base/kdebase-9999.4 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 1701: Called dyn_compile
* ebuild.sh, line 1039: Called qa_call 'src_compile'
* ebuild.sh, line 44: Called src_compile
* kdebase-9999.4.ebuild, line 128: Called kde4-base_src_compile
* kde4-base.eclass, line 290: Called kde4-base_src_make
* kde4-base.eclass, line 396: Called cmake-utils_src_make
* cmake-utils.eclass, line 124: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* emake || die "Make failed!"
* The die message:
* Make failed!
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant.
* A complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdebase-9999.4/temp/build.log'.


Anyone see similar error?

Simon
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