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| Would you leave the current Gentoo for a D.Robbins led "Gentoo fork"? |
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| Only if he retains and uses the Gentoo trademark to form a "New Gentoo". |
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c0d3g33k
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Joined: 26 Nov 2003
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Location: S.E. Connecticut
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| steveL wrote: |
Nah, he should be an effin' lawyer ;p Oh wait, most politicians are lawyers..
Chill out, c0d3g33k, he was joking! 
* igli heads down't'pub |
Nah, you're both wrong. Trained as a scientist and damn proud of it. Quibbling over minutia isn't the exclusive domain of politicians and lawyers, though the reasons for doing so are very different.  |
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Naib
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| speeddemon wrote: |
Has Enemy Territory Quake Wars even made it to the portage tree yet? Or is the newest commercial NATIVE LINUX game still in an overlay?
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No it is not in the tree atm. There is two very good ebuilds in bugzilla
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196452
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198078
That will pull data from the DVD and install the client (bumping is easy as well). These ebuilds have existed since client 1.1 and have matured alot and they are in a fit state to go into main tree *IF* a dev would adopt them
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steveL
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| c0d3g33k wrote: | | steveL wrote: |
So I guess we'd be maintaining a tree, with a test system based on that tree, and then running glsa-check (and perhaps other stuff); we'd then need to import any updated ebuilds plus their dependencies. Tinderboxing could help with the QA before we pushed it out to distribution tree. |
This kind of approach actually might be a good jumping off point for enabling focused Gentoo-derived variants rather than just grass-roots efforts, making the 'metadistribution' concept more than just marketing speak. (I prefer "proto" as a prefix as it captures the idea better, but I'll stick with the accepted term). Something along the lines of Sabayon might be less problematic if based on a periodic stable snapshot rather than an poorly supportable hodgepodge of stuff from the moving tree, an independent bleeding edge overlay and sometimes questionable hacks to make it all work. Ruthlessly reducing complexity seems to be the key to successfully implementing stable systems rather than adding more on top of it all. Of course that could be said of the frozen tree concept as well, but the benefit (in theory) is that the entire ecosystem doesn't have to be focused on a moving target. In theory. |
Heh, yeah. It's possible to make a stripped-down tree by excluding categories from sync, which would be good for a server distro. A desktop user would want pretty much everything though. One thing that might work is to maintain our tree as the stripped down set (eg only system stuff) and then overlay other categories from the main tree. I'm thinking a lot of stuff doesn't require particular versions eg of coreutils, just that GNU sed is there.
If anyone is interested in doing something like this, come and chat to me (igli) in #friendly-coders on irc.freenode.org. It'd be easier to hash out ideas on IRC and we'll see what can be done between us lowly users ;)
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gmtongar
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Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Initially I would jump off the bandwagon for a DRobbins fork, but the recent visible activity from the Gentoo team and a more positive vibe in the community have made me more of an optimist on gentoo's behalf then I've been for the last six months. Now I think everything is possible with Gentoo, also great success in the future.
So, I see no reason to follow DRobbins on a fork (which is not going to happen, after all) of Gentoo, all though I wouldn't mind see him in some active part considered Gentoo.
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omp
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NathanZachary
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I would try the new fork on my test machine, but I can't make some preemptive statement that I would switch distributions. I will try just about any new distro that comes out, but so far, I have never considered having any but Gentoo for my own use. Anyway, I guess this topic is now a moot point considering DRobbins said he doesn't intend on forking.
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SnakeByte
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Location: Europe - Germany
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| omnio wrote: |
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You don't expect me te repeat all those things to you just because you didn't pay attention, do you? |
Actuall I would not have expect this from you directly, but sure somebody providing some information
for everybody to make up his mind if these "issues" count for themselves or not.
Because I do not see a crysis for me as long year gentoo user
so I have to dig up the opinions of others to make up my mind too.
best regards |
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