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Chymera
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 Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:52 am Post subject: gentoo is eating up all my resources |
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hi, I have a problem here.... I always expected gentoo to be breezy fast.... but all I get since yeasterday evening is sluggish bevahiour. take a look at my memory stats:
http://i16.tinypic.com/6te0zt0.png - I know that the system monitor usually shows some 200 additional ram to the vital usage (which are used by the system to speed up some processes), but really, nautilus and the system monitor take 3-5 seconds to load, firefox tabs about 1-2 secs to open.... and exaile searches can take (although i barely have 5000 music files) up to 20 secs .... so i have little to no idea what processes get "speeded up"....
And the pagefile usage is horrendous - one way or the other this is more resource usage then I got from vista+mediaplayer+photoshopCS3 (something which I consider "excusable" for bloated distro's like ubuntu but which seems totally out of place in gentoo).
you may suggest to look for what processes may be the culprits.... which I did: http://i4.tinypic.com/86tn9g9.png - I have no idea what python app would eat up that much ram, and as far as I know, exaile is the only python app I'm running right now, also I have my doubts that firefox and nautilus really need the corresponding memory, as I only have one nautilus window open, and one ff window with only 6 tabs, none of which contain flash or the likes.
I am aware that 1024 ram is kinda little, and I am planning to buy some additional modules next week, still, seeing as i don't even run the most basic composite manager and (except some custom panels and a murrina theme) have nothing which could be vaguely approximated as eye-candy on my desktop, I find these resource stats concerning. If it could be the source of the problem, I DO have a rather long uptime (5 days) but my normal uptime is much longer.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| could you post the output of emerge --info |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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here you go, pussi
| Quote: | Portage 2.1.3.19 (default-linux/amd64/2007.0/desktop, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.23-gentoo-r3 x86_64)
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System uname: 2.6.23-gentoo-r3 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz
Timestamp of tree: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:46:01 +0000
app-shells/bash: 3.2_p17-r1
dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r6
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6
sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.10-r5
sys-apps/sandbox: 1.2.18.1-r2
sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.61-r1
sys-devel/automake: 1.5, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10
sys-devel/binutils: 2.18-r1
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.0-r4
sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.24
virtual/os-headers: 2.6.23-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/X11/xkb"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/splash /etc/terminfo /etc/udev/rules.d"
CXXFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://ftp.roedu.net/pub/mirrors/gentoo.org/ http://ftp.romnet.org/gentoo/ ftp://mirrors.evolva.ro/gentoo/ "
MAKEOPTS="-j3"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages --filter=H_**/files/digest-*"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X acl acpi alsa amd64 berkdb bitmap-fonts cairo cdr cli cracklib crypt cups dbus dri dvd dvdr dvdread eds emboss encode esd evo fam firefox fortran gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk hal iconv ipv6 isdnlog jpeg kerberos ldap mad midi mikmod mmx mp3 mpeg mudflap ncurses nls nptl nptlonly ogg opengl openmp oss pam pcre pdf perl png pppd python qt3support quicktime readline reflection sdl session spell spl sse sse2 ssl svg tcpd tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode vorbis xml xorg xv zlib" ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="apm ark chips cirrus cyrix dummy fbdev glint i128 i810 mach64 mga neomagic nv r128 radeon rendition s3 s3virge savage siliconmotion sis sisusb tdfx tga trident tseng v4l vesa vga via vmware voodoo"
Unset: CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Chimera,
You should have | Code: |
CFLAGS="-march=nocona -O2 -pipe" |
Same for CXXflags of course.
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Chymera
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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and what's that supposed to change?
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| Chymera wrote: | | and what's that supposed to change? |
That should optimize compiled binaries for your cpu, but I don't think that would solve your problem.
I didn't see anything weird in your emerge --info either.
In gnome's system monitor select View->All processes and see if X or some other process is using gigabytes of memory.
Also, on the screenshot you posted, is firefox's memory usage from right after you've started it or have you been browsing with it. |
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Chymera
did you reboot your system and checked ?  |
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Chymera
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| pussi wrote: |
Also, on the screenshot you posted, is firefox's memory usage from right after you've started it or have you been browsing with it. |
I've been using it for a while....
As for what you asked about "all processes" , I did select the view all option, and there really wasnt anything nea, except x seems to be using some 170 mb .... nothing in the gb range.... still
So does no one have any idea?
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| how do you start your gui ? |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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I just realized 'memory' field doesn't include swap.
you could try simply ending the python process that's using 360MB memory and see if that helps |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I just checked my system and your system hardware looks same. don;t you use dev-util/ccache ? |
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Chymera
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| pussi wrote: | I just realized 'memory' field doesn't include swap.
you could try simply ending the python process that's using 360MB memory and see if that helps |
it crashes exaile (doh!).... but i doubt it's it, now for example it's only using 231 mb, amd my system is even slower than before...
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| upengan78 wrote: | | how do you start your gui ? |
with startx
.... aren't you that guy who added me in messenger and went about ranting?
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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No I did not go ranting 
If you want we can talk on messenger
my firefox uses 212 MB
pidgin 46.7 MB
xinit 188 KB |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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ok, I tried a little experiment: I rebooted my comp yesterday evening, started exaile and opened a nautilus window. Then just let it sit there
20:00 - 19,7% RAM usage
06:45 - 32,1% RAM usage
17:00 - 41,9% RAM usage
is it normeal to get such resource consumption growht over sich a short uptime (less than a day), or do I have some kind of memory leak here?
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Chymera wrote: | | do I have some kind of memory leak here? |
That's what I've been guessing here.. Try using top or gnome system monitor to identify the program that's doing this. |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| You may wish to enable additional columns in the gnome system monitor to see more memory info. |
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Chymera
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: gentoo is eating up all my resources |
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| pussi wrote: | | That's what I've been guessing here.. Try using top or gnome system monitor to identify the program that's doing this. |
@ pussi, let me quotae my initial post for you | Chymera wrote: | you may suggest to look for what processes may be the culprits.... which I did: http://i4.tinypic.com/86tn9g9.png - I have no idea what python app would eat up that much ram, and as far as I know, exaile is the only python app I'm running right now, also I have my doubts that firefox and nautilus really need the corresponding memory, as I only have one nautilus window open, and one ff window with only 6 tabs, none of which contain flash or the likes.
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sound familiar?
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| wyvern5 wrote: | | You may wish to enable additional columns in the gnome system monitor to see more memory info. |
here is a screenshot.... i do notice some bloated values in the first memory column.... although the rest isn't really lightweight either
http://i19.tinypic.com/6luxa9e.png
any ideas?
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Can you please post output of
emerge -av python |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Whatever you're running with python is taking an extraordinary amount of memory. Is that your music player? Consider trying amarok... it's using 60mb with 25,000+ songs. |
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Chymera
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| wyvern5 wrote: | | Whatever you're running with python is taking an extraordinary amount of memory. Is that your music player? Consider trying amarok... it's using 60mb with 25,000+ songs. |
I don't want to use qt apps... out of principle 
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| upengan78 wrote: | Can you please post output of
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wouldn't that mean re-emerging python, only in verbose mode, and with a y/n prompt?
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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do not reinstall
i wanted to knows flags used for python |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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emerge -av python:
| Code: | [ebuild R ] dev-lang/python-2.4.4-r6 USE="berkdb gdbm ipv6 ncurses readline ssl -bootstrap -build -doc -examples -nocxx -nothreads -tk -ucs2" 0 kB
Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB |
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