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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: 3 monitors, a single card. Possible? Reply with quote

Hi,
I'm trying to set up this layout:

    Screen 0: A Twinview screen composed of:
    --A primary monitor connected through DVI.
    --A secondary monitor connected trough VGA.
    Screen 1: A TV connected trough S-VIDEO.


My card is a GeForce FX5200, it's pretty basic. And this and a search on google lead me to think that it is not possible at all. However, I would like to confirm if my xorg.conf is fine because I'm getting an error and my TV doesn't show anything.

Everything is detected fine in nvidia-settings but the TV (detected as TV-0) is disabled. I can enable it as a separate screen but when I apply the changes nothing happens. Any change done to the other two monitors (DVI and VGA) is used immediately. The error I get in xorg is:
Code:
(**) NVIDIA(1): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) NVIDIA(1): RGB weight 888
(==) NVIDIA(1): Default visual is TrueColor
(==) NVIDIA(1): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(**) NVIDIA(1): Option "NoLogo" "1"
(**) NVIDIA(1): Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-J"
(**) NVIDIA(1): Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"
(**) NVIDIA(1): Option "TwinView" "0"
(**) NVIDIA(1): Option "MetaModes" "TV-0: nvidia-auto-select +0+0"
(**) NVIDIA(1): Option "TVOverScan" "0.7"
(**) NVIDIA(1): Enabling RENDER acceleration
(**) NVIDIA(1): Forcing SVIDEO output
(**) NVIDIA(1): TV Standard string: "NTSC-J"
(II) NVIDIA(1): NVIDIA GPU GeForce FX 5200 (NV34) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)
(--) NVIDIA(1): Memory: 131072 kBytes
(--) NVIDIA(1): VideoBIOS: 04.34.20.87.00
(II) NVIDIA(1): Detected AGP rate: 8X
(--) NVIDIA(1): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU
(--) NVIDIA(1): Connected display device(s) on GeForce FX 5200 at PCI:1:0:0:
(--) NVIDIA(1):     Samsung SyncMaster (CRT-0)
(--) NVIDIA(1):     NVIDIA TV Encoder (TV-0)
(--) NVIDIA(1):     Apple Cinema (DFP-0)
(--) NVIDIA(1): Samsung SyncMaster (CRT-0): 350.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
(--) NVIDIA(1): NVIDIA TV Encoder (TV-0): 350.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
(--) NVIDIA(1): TV encoder: NVIDIA
(II) NVIDIA(1): Display Device found referenced in MetaMode: TV-0
(WW) NVIDIA(1): There are only 2 CRTCs available, trimming display device list
(WW) NVIDIA(1):     from "TV-0" to "".
(II) NVIDIA(1): Assigned Display Device:
(WW) NVIDIA(1): Invalid display device in Mode Description
(WW) NVIDIA(1):     "TV-0:nvidia-auto-select+0+0"
(WW) NVIDIA(1): Not using mode description "TV-0:nvidia-auto-select+0+0";
(WW) NVIDIA(1):     unable to map to display device
(==) NVIDIA(1):
(==) NVIDIA(1): No modes were requested; the default mode "nvidia-auto-select"
(==) NVIDIA(1):     will be used as the requested mode.
(==) NVIDIA(1):
(WW) NVIDIA(1): No valid modes for "nvidia-auto-select"; removing.
(WW) NVIDIA(1):
(WW) NVIDIA(1): Unable to validate any modes; falling back to the default mode
(WW) NVIDIA(1):     "nvidia-auto-select".
(WW) NVIDIA(1):
(WW) NVIDIA(1): No valid modes for "nvidia-auto-select"; removing.
(EE) NVIDIA(1): Unable to use default mode "nvidia-auto-select".


I'm intrigued by the line There are only 2 CRTCs available, trimming display device list from "TV-0" to "".

And my current xorg.conf. It was done from inside nvidia-settings, with some modifications. Please inform me of any serious misconfiguration:
Code:
# nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
# nvidia-settings:  version 1.0  (root@localhost)  Sat Dec 29 16:02:20 CET 2007

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0"
    Screen      1  "Screen1" LeftOf "Screen0"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
    Option      "Composite" "enable"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    RgbPath         "/usr/lib64/X11/rgb"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load           "dbe"
    Load           "extmod"
    Load           "type1"
    Load           "freetype"
    Load           "glx"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option         "Xinerama" "0"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from data in "/etc/conf.d/gpm"
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
    Option         "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
    Option         "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option         "XkbLayout" "es"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "Samsung SyncMaster"
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    # HorizSync source: builtin, VertRefresh source: builtin
    Identifier     "Monitor1"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "TV-0"
    HorizSync       28.0 - 33.0
    VertRefresh     43.0 - 72.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Videocard0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName      "GeForce FX 5200"
    BusID          "PCI:1:0:0"
    Option         "TwinView"
    Option         "HorizSync" "CRT-0: 30-61; DFP-0: 64.7-65.3"
    Option         "VertRefresh" "CRT-0: 56-75; DFP-0: 60"
    Option         "TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder" "DFP-0,CRT-0"
    Option         "metamodes" "CRT-0: 1024x768 +1680+241, DFP-0: 1680x1050 +0+0; CRT-0: 1024x768 +0+0, DFP-0: NULL; CRT-0: 800x600 +0+0, DFP-0: NULL"
    Screen          0
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Videocard1"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName      "GeForce FX 5200"
    BusID          "PCI:1:0:0"
    Option         "TwinView" "0"
    Option         "metamodes" "TV-0: nvidia-auto-select +0+0"
    Screen          1
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Videocard0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    Option         "CursorShadow" "true"
    Option         "CursorShadowAlpha" "50"
    Option         "CursorShadowXOffset" "4"
    Option         "CursorShadowYOffset" "2"
    Option         "NoLogo" "1"
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen1"
    Device         "Videocard1"
    Monitor        "Monitor1"
    DefaultDepth    24
    Option         "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"
    Option         "TVOverScan" "0.7"
    Option         "TVStandard" "NTSC-J"
    Option         "NoLogo" "1"
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection


Regards.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe what that statement says is true, many video cards, though they have three outputs, can only display to two at a time. The third may be disabled, or at most, a copy of what's shown on another display.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that's the case, what alternatives are there? Getting a PCI card with TV-out nowadays is quite hard. Is there any brand still selling PCI cards? Even a video capturer would do (I already have one but with no TV output, only input).
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pajarete,

if you want TV on your PC, why not try a USB DVB receiver?

If you need some specific cards, you should try the vendors (PCgreen, pricoinsa :D ) by calling their commercial guys: they take the cards off the market because there are outdated, but they might keep some cards in their shops. Give it a try!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't need any specific model. I would do with anything that's compatible with my geforce FX5200.

I don't want TV on my PC, rather the inverse: I want movies from my computer to be displayed on my TV. My old xorg.conf had two screens and this worked wonderful with DISPLAY=":0.1" mplayer movie.avi. The problem is that two days ago I only had two display devices attached at the card, and now I have three and the card doesn't seem to support using simultaneously the three outputs. worse yet, there seems the only cards capable of this are the quadro models and some matrox which are expensive and I'm not sure if those have TV out or just VGA/DVI.

The best solution would be a PCI card but that's going to be hard to find...
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