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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eta wrote:
One regression in this kernel for me is that "checkfs script takes too long (+10min) to finish executing during boot-up" is back with 2.6.0-test1. I was getting similar problems with 2.5.73 kernel but 2.5.74 seemed to solve it. Does anybody see this problem too?


Yes, I had the same problem with 2.6.0-test1 and 2.6.0-test1-mm1. Checking my reiserfs partitions took also about 10-15 minutes (because I am so impatient I usually pressed CTRL-C to stop the checkfs script and then CTRL-D to resume booting).

But since yesterday the tests run fast. Not as fast as with 2.4.20, but only a few seconds longer. I am not sure but I think the only thing I changed was the update to reiserfsprogs-3.6.9 and patching the kernel with the O6/O6.1/O7 patches.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wilburpan wrote:
jimlynch11 wrote:
Quote:
lyncjp0@lyncjp0-pc lyncjp0 $ alsamixer

alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device


somebody help me! i have alsa going as a module, whats the deal?

I have alsa running with the 2.6.0-test kernel. Here are my kernel settings:
Code:

<M> Sound card support
    Advanced Linux Sound Architecture  --->
    <M> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
    <M>   Sequencer support
    < >     Sequencer dummy client
    [*]   OSS API emulation
    <M>     OSS Mixer API
    <M>     OSS PCM (digital audio) API
    [*]     OSS Sequencer API
    [ ]   Verbose printk
    [ ]   Debug
          Generic devices  --->
              <M> Dummy (/dev/null) soundcard
          ISA devices  ---> (no options selected)
          PCI devices  ---> (no options selected)
              <M> ESS ES1968/1978 (Maestro-1/2/2E)  (This is my card)
          ALSA USB devices  ---> (no options selected)
          PCMCIA devices  ---> (no options selected)
     Open Sound System  ---> (no options selected)


Here's my output from lsmod:
Code:

# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
snd_pcm_oss            49252  0
snd_mixer_oss          17120  2 snd_pcm_oss
hid                    23328  0
uhci_hcd               29704  0
ehci_hcd               22048  0
usbcore                98100  5 hid,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd
xircom_cb               9600  0
snd_es1968             27556  4
snd_ac97_codec         49252  1 snd_es1968
snd_pcm                88192  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_es1968
snd_page_alloc          7908  2 snd_es1968,snd_pcm
snd_timer              21984  1 snd_pcm
snd_mpu401_uart         6016  1 snd_es1968
snd_rawmidi            20320  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device          6692  1 snd_rawmidi
snd                    45444  14 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_es1968,snd_ac97_codec,
snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
soundcore               7040  2 snd

I do not have alsa-driver installed.
Hope this helps.


thanks for the help...can you post the pertinent parts of your /etc/modules.d/alsa and modules.conf files so i can compare?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh f***!

Having tested 2.6-test1 I thought I also give the here so often mentioned 2.6-test1_mm1 O7 patched a try. And I really have to say, I never ever saw my system that increadibly fast and responsive (even when performing an emerge -u word while compiling LaTEX)

A very astonished

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Having tested 2.6-test1 I thought I also give the here so often mentioned 2.6-test1_mm1 O7 patched a try. And I really have to say, I never ever saw my system that increadibly fast and responsive (even when performing an emerge -u word while compiling LaTEX)


So, it's the mm1 + O7 combination better than mm1+O7+softrr? I've been using this last one since yesterday and it seems to me pretty good. BTW, do I have do add the USE="SSE" in my make.conf or is it automatically used when adding "-march=pentium3" ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, it looks like I've made some headway on the lockup problem I've been having. I disabled the AMD specific stuff in the character devices (actually the whole AGPART thing) and in the Atapi and IDE section and it seems to have solved the problem. I'm not sure which of them is the problem. I'm leaning towards the AGPART because it seems to crash only when X is running.

I'll do more experimenting and see what I find.

BTW, does anyone else have problems with the nvidia module and the mm1+07int patch? The module works for vanilla 2.6-test1 but not for mm1-07int.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been *trying* to use 2.6.0-test1 for the past 3 straight days without success. The kernel fails with :

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Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:03


I dont get any problems or what so ever with gentoo sources 2.4.20r5 installed on same machine. I have tried to use *many* different options in the .config file like; disabling preemption, Ide dma etc. I've also enabled the chipset -PIIx4 (running PII 266) I'm using lilo and reiserfs on root partition. (reiserfs is in-built not a module in the kernel).

... I have been waiting for this kernel. I really want to giv it a spin. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jimlynch11 wrote:
thanks for the help...can you post the pertinent parts of your /etc/modules.d/alsa and modules.conf files so i can compare?

Here you go!

/etc/modules.d/alsa:
Code:

# Alsa 0.9.X kernel modules' configuration file.
# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/media-sound/alsa-driver/files/alsa-modules.conf-rc,v 1.1 2002/12/21 06:31:52 agenkin Exp $

# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore

##
## IMPORTANT:
## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
## and then run `update-modules' command.
## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
##
##  ALSA portion
alias snd-card-0 snd-es1968
## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
##  OSS/Free portion
## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
##

# OSS/Free portion - card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
## alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
## alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
## alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

# Set this to the correct number of cards.
options snd cards_limit=1

alsa portion of /etc/modules.conf:
Code:

### modules-update: start processing /etc/modules.d/alsa
# Alsa 0.9.X kernel modules' configuration file.
# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/media-sound/alsa-driver/files/alsa-modules.conf-rc,v 1.1 2002/12/21 06:31:52 agenkin Exp $

# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore

##
## IMPORTANT:
## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
## and then run `update-modules' command.
## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
##
##  ALSA portion
alias snd-card-0 snd-es1968
## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
##  OSS/Free portion
## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
##

# OSS/Free portion - card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
## alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
## alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
## alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

# Set this to the correct number of cards.
options snd cards_limit=1

### modules-update: end processing /etc/modules.d/alsa

Hope this gets you going!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vagabond wrote:
Yarrick wrote:
i have some problems with the new kernel, it hangs my system. i have been in X mostly, and all lockups have been in X. the mouse pointer just stops, no response from keyboard, and if audio was playing it starts looping. what should i do to get a log somewhere when it happens next time?


I have the same problem, and I've had it with the 2.5.75 kernel too. I have an asus a7m266-D mobo w/ 1024 megs RAM and a GF3 Ti500.

I want to get the 2.6 kernel running properly dammit!

Vag


Folks:

I have this problem with recent kernels and X winders -- it is my synaptics[font=red]mouse driver of evil[/font].

I have been using the same drivers/input/mouse directory since 2.5.73; the newer mice lock up my X server. I simply remove the whole driectory and drop in the one from 2.5.73.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrIch wrote:
because I use loop-aes for all my data partition I need a loop-aes modul for linux-2.6.0test...

but the newest loop-aes package seems to be not compatible to the new 2.6 kernel series! :(



See recent posts on this thread:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=417519#417519
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing I just noticed...

I use gKrellm2 as a system monitor, and to take up space on my desktop (2 monitors means i have space to waste :p). I noticed that over the past few days, in which I've been running 2.6.0-test1, that I'm getting no readings on my hard drives, at all. I don't know what this means, but probably that I forgot to add something, or that gKrellm2 doesn't work with 2.6 (entirely).

Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gkrellm2 works for me on 2.6.0-test1. Check your gkrellm configuration by right clicking almost anywhere on it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to let you guys know, 2.6.0-test1-mm2 has been released. Its got the O7 patch applied, but it looks like theres a pretty nasty bug in ext3 - can't emerge anything because of oopses during heavy disk IO - i've had to go back to mm1 with O7.


Edit: get it here - also it doesnt compile if software suspend is enabled. Theres a patch on lkml for it.

Edit2: Heres the patch for the ext3 bug i mentioned:


Code:

--- 25/fs/ext3/inode.c~ext3_getblk-race-fix-fix 2003-07-19 22:59:50.000000000 -0700
+++ 25-akpm/fs/ext3/inode.c     2003-07-19 23:07:42.000000000 -0700
@@ -936,19 +936,17 @@ struct buffer_head *ext3_getblk(handle_t
                           ext3_get_block instead, so it's not a
                           problem. */
                        lock_buffer(bh);
-                       if (!buffer_uptodate(bh)) {
-                               BUFFER_TRACE(bh, "call get_create_access");
-                               fatal = ext3_journal_get_create_access(handle, bh);
-                               if (!fatal) {
-                                       memset(bh->b_data, 0,
-                                                       inode->i_sb->s_blocksize);
-                                       set_buffer_uptodate(bh);
-                               }
+                       BUFFER_TRACE(bh, "call get_create_access");
+                       fatal = ext3_journal_get_create_access(handle, bh);
+                       if (!fatal && !buffer_uptodate(bh)) {
+                               memset(bh->b_data, 0, inode->i_sb->s_blocksize);
+                               set_buffer_uptodate(bh);
                        }
                        unlock_buffer(bh);
                        BUFFER_TRACE(bh, "call ext3_journal_dirty_metadata");
                        err = ext3_journal_dirty_metadata(handle, bh);
-                       if (!fatal) fatal = err;
+                       if (!fatal)
+                               fatal = err;
                } else {
                        BUFFER_TRACE(bh, "not a new buffer");
                }

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just grabbed the mm1 kernel and patched with O6, O6.1, and O7
When I then tried applying the softrr patch, I got some errors saying that 3 out of 9 chunks failed. When I tried compiling the resulting kernel, it failed on sched.o, obviously because of the bad patch. So I reversed the patch and now it compiles cleanly with O7. A lot of you have O7 + softrr working. What have I done wrong?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 9:59 am    Post subject: nvidia drivers probs Reply with quote

Hi, all
Yesterday installed system with kernel 2.6.0-test1, everything seems working, exept nvidia drivers... I used the latest patch for Linux-2.5 and there was no errors, but when I try to run X with nvidia drivers, I have this error:
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
(WW) Warning, couldn't open module nvidia
(II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
(II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver
ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.4
(EE) No drivers available.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

Can anybody help ?
Tnx.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: nvidia drivers probs Reply with quote

ValKov wrote:
Hi, all
Yesterday installed system with kernel 2.6.0-test1, everything seems working, exept nvidia drivers... I used the latest patch for Linux-2.5 and there was no errors, but when I try to run X with nvidia drivers, I have this error:
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
(WW) Warning, couldn't open module nvidia
(II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
(II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver
ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.4
(EE) No drivers available.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

Can anybody help ?
Tnx.

what is the printout of lsmod?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm running it, and I haven't had too many problems and the responsiveness is s much better.... here's the problems I did have:

1) ALSA wasn't working on bootup for some reason. I did a simple modprobe snd_es18xx and it works. I added this to modules.autoload so that I wouldn't have to modprobe it every time. This seems hackish though, is there a better way?

2) I can't get an aterm, xterm, anything that includes a shell to open in XWindows. As suggested above when someone else was having similiar probems I checked for UNIX98 and Pseudo Terminals and they were both enabled. Any ideas? I was able to lauch aterm in a way so that I could see the output, and I'm finding that both aterm and xterm are Segfaulting.... researching now how to find out more what the source of the problem is..... Update: FIXED! Went reading through the kernel help messages in make menuconfig and found out that I needed to do a mount -t devpts devpts /dev/pts for pseudo terminals to work. Everything works flawlessly on that now!

3) My mouse now moves *way* too fast for my liking. I remember I adjusted the speed up of it quite a while ago, but I don't remember how I did it and I can't seem to find the thread that I got the tip from. Anybody know how to slow down my mouse?

Other then that, I'm loving it. More testing to ensue, I'll let ppl know if I have any further problems, and I'm going to see how high I can get my uptime on a "test" kernel ;)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maor wrote
what is the printout of lsmod?
vk root # lsmod
Module Size Used by
nvidia 1610056 0
tuner 14404 0
tvaudio 20352 0
bttv 101568 0
video_buf 16512 1 bttv
v4l2_common 3840 1 bttv
videodev 8320 1 bttv
sg 29132 0
sr_mod 13792 0
cdrom 33632 1 sr_mod
sd_mod 11808 0
usb_storage 27200 0
hid 23232 0
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Yes, I had the same problem with 2.6.0-test1 and 2.6.0-test1-mm1. Checking my reiserfs partitions took also about 10-15 minutes (because I am so impatient I usually pressed CTRL-C to stop the checkfs script and then CTRL-D to resume booting).

But since yesterday the tests run fast. Not as fast as with 2.4.20, but only a few seconds longer. I am not sure but I think the only thing I changed was the update to reiserfsprogs-3.6.9 and patching the kernel with the O6/O6.1/O7 patches.

Have fun,
Andreas

Thanks Andreas. I updated reiserfsprogs, but still have the same problem. I have switched to 2.5.74 for now b/c interactivity with 2.6.0-test1 is really bad: opening kazaa with wine + xmms + dillo will choke the whole system up. :( 2.5.74 didn't have a problem with opening those applications all together. I am afraid the OXinteractive patches are making interactivity worse than better. :(
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hm.. i am now running the 2.60-test1-mm2 kernel, in the hope
that the slowness would be fixed with the mm2 patch. i had no
such luck though; it seems to me that the nvidia kernel is very
slow; on the desktop windows are laggy and the first time i run
startx, my background can be actually *seen* building up from
top to bottom; not with hitches, it goes smooth, but still.. before
with kernel 2.4.21 (with con kolivas patch and without) my
wallpaper would appear near-instantly with no visible build-up.
and when i run a game such as unreal tournament (not 2003),
the first moments the sounds are messed up; lots of hitches in
them as if there's trouble loading sounds or something is hogging
the system in a terrible way. and when in the game itself playing,
when i press a key, the action happens as if lagged. i do not
know why this is happening, i just know it is quite annoying while
i was hoping 2.6 (even though being a test version) would show
me some nice improvements in responsiviness and general
performance.

apart from the lag and accompanying (at least i think it is part of
the same problem) sound problem, there's another problem.

it seems the 2.6 test kernel doesn not process /etc/X11/
XF86Config in the same manner the 2.4.21 kernel did; my wheel
of my mouse does not work, and the cursor moves as if using
a low refresh rate - i can not actually see it skip, but i can see
that it is quite a bit less smooth than before.

oh.. i am running slackware 9, which might be part of the problem,
but i doubt this, since i have used gentoo kernel patches before,
which seemed to work just fine. i am posting in these forums since
i have noticed there are many people here who know what they
are talking about.

any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

neenee wrote:

apart from the lag and accompanying (at least i think it is part of
the same problem) sound problem, there's another problem.

it seems the 2.6 test kernel doesn not process /etc/X11/
XF86Config in the same manner the 2.4.21 kernel did; my wheel
of my mouse does not work, and the cursor moves as if using
a low refresh rate - i can not actually see it skip, but i can see
that it is quite a bit less smooth than before.


There are some issues with ps2mouse on 2.6 at the moment, as I wrote in another post (https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=68068). You could try to load ps2mouse module with "psmouse_noext=1" parameter to see if smoothness improves, however this way you are gonna lose wheel functionality.
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thank you for your prompt reply. i will
however not try it, since i need to be
able to use my mouse-wheel.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay I've found the cause of my lockups, its SCSI ATAPI emulation. I've done extensive testing and I've concluded that enabling SCSI ATAPI emulation will gurantee a system lockup within a few minutes while with it disabled I've had the 2.6 kernel run flawlessly for 11 hours straight.

So with that issue resolved 2.6 seems to be a great kernel and quite stable too. I also posted a message to the lkml since I hadn't seen a similar bug reported to the mailing list.

Maybe this info will help someone else.

Vag
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

neenee wrote:
hm.. i am now running the 2.60-test1-mm2 kernel


are u using reiserfs ?
i cannot mount root fs (reiserfs) with mm2 (mm1 work fine)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vagabond wrote:
Okay I've found the cause of my lockups, its SCSI ATAPI emulation. I've done extensive testing and I've concluded that enabling SCSI ATAPI emulation will gurantee a system lockup within a few minutes while with it disabled I've had the 2.6 kernel run flawlessly for 11 hours straight.

So with that issue resolved 2.6 seems to be a great kernel and quite stable too. I also posted a message to the lkml since I hadn't seen a similar bug reported to the mailing list.

Maybe this info will help someone else.

Vag

Weird. I was just reading your lkml post. What hardware exactly are you using the scsi emulation for? I'm running it on 2.6-test-mm1 without any problems whatsoever (uptime of a mere 5 or 6 days), providing burning support for my Sony DVD+/-RW (VIA chipset). Have burned a couple CDs with it too. Any weird dmesg output? Is the device in question a master or slave in the chain?

kali wrote:
i cannot mount root fs (reiserfs) with mm2 (mm1 work fine)

Uh oh. That ain't good - I just rebooted my system with -mm2 remotely. Guess it might not be coming back up.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kali - yes; i am using reiserfs, but not as my root.
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