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 Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:10 pm Post subject: No vzpkg ebuild? |
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Hi there.
I've installed OpenVZ and started to configure it on a dedicated machine. I've read the documentation at OpenVZ web site and there seems to be a package, vzpkg, that is supposed to work with templates. It's absent from portage  [EDIT:] although vzctl and vzquota do have ebuilds[/EDIT]. Is there any reason for for vzpkg to be absent from portage?
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| Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Moved from Portage & Programming to Unsupported Software.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| esearch vz: | * sys-cluster/vzctl
Latest version available: 3.0.22
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of downloaded files: [no/bad digest]
Homepage: http://openvz.org/
Description: OpenVZ VE control utility
License: GPL-2
* sys-fs/vzquota
Latest version available: 3.0.11
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of downloaded files: [no/bad digest]
Homepage: http://openvz.org/download/utils/vzquota/
Description: OpenVZ VPS disk quota utility
License: GPL-2
* sys-kernel/openvz-sources
Latest version available: 2.6.18.028.053-r2
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of downloaded files: [no/bad digest]
Homepage: http://www.openvz.org
Description: Full sources including OpenVZ patchset for the . kernel tree
License: GPL-2 |
Unsuported, maybe; but incomplete I'm afraid...
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| nixnut wrote: | | Moved [...] to Unsupported Software. |
So is it the answer to my question?
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| VinzC wrote: | | nixnut wrote: | | Moved [...] to Unsupported Software. |
So is it the answer to my question? |
The answer is obviously that no one has created an ebuild for it and found a gentoo developer willing to maintain it.
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The answer was not so obvious to me... Should there be *no* package at all, it would have been. But now there are only two out of three packages. Traditional reasons are: incompatibilities, incompleteness, unstability, whatsoever, dunno... Should have there been no package at all I'd have asked no question at all.
I can't even consider asking the question to the official ebuild maintainer:
| head -3 $(equery w vzctl): | # Copyright 1999-2008 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/sys-cluster/vzctl/vzctl-3.0.22.ebuild,v 1.3 2008/01/30 08:30:30 pva Exp $ |
It just looked to me like a package was missing. Hence my question in this forum...
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| VinzC wrote: | I can't even consider asking the question to the official ebuild maintainer:
| head -3 $(equery w vzctl): | # Copyright 1999-2008 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/sys-cluster/vzctl/vzctl-3.0.22.ebuild,v 1.3 2008/01/30 08:30:30 pva Exp $ |
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Actually pva is mentioned in that header, but the developer listed there isn't always the maintainer too. You can find the maintainer in the metadata.xml file
/usr/portage/sys-cluster/vzctl/metadata.xml:
| Code: | <maintainer>
<email>pva@gentoo.org</email>
<name>Peter Volkov</name>
</maintainer> |
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Thanks for the info. I'm contacting Peter Volkov in the hope he knows about this.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Answering question here too in a bit more details. Take a look at description of vzpkg:
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vzpkg - OpenVZ VPS template management tools
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This is a collection of scripts aimed at VPS template management.
It mostly deals with creation of OS template caches. Also included
are two handy utilities - vzyum and vzrpm.
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So actually this package is supposed to work with rpm and yum to populate template from binary packages. So while it could be useful to make it available in Gentoo and use rpm include gentoo HN to populate template no one did that, and personally I do not need that too as I'm using gentoo inside VE's too 
Another possible work here is to make this program working with portage. But that's completely different story ... |
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Thanks Peter.
Will I need vzpkg if I setup VEs other than Gentoo, e.g. Debian, CentOS, Fedora or Suse and if my host is Gentoo? Or is that package only for YUM and RPM enabled hosts?
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| VinzC wrote: | | Will I need vzpkg if I setup VEs other than Gentoo, e.g. Debian, CentOS, Fedora or Suse and if my host is Gentoo? Or is that package only for YUM and RPM enabled hosts? |
Take a look at Alternative: use precreated template cache. So if you already have OS template then you use vzctl to create VE. That's it. But it's also possible to customized templates without vzpkg: start VE, do all necessary customizations inside, then stop it and pack container as a new template (again, read link). So in other words vzpkg help in some cases to create customized template, but it's always possible to do all the same things without it and without additional difficulties.
Also, I never did, but seems that it's possible to use dev-util/debootstrap to create debian template in Gentoo. |
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Thanks, Peter. Looks clear now.
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