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lyallp Veteran
Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 1589 Location: Adelaide/Australia
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: Recommended Bittorrent client? |
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I am currently using Azureus, as my machine is dual boot to windows and it was easier to for me to resume uploading/downloading using a consistent application in both OS's.
I find I am not using the windows one any more, so now, I am looking for recommendations for Linux.
I use Fluxbox as my WM, I am not sure if that makes any difference to the choice.
I have a P4 2.8ghz, 2G machine, high resource usage is not a real problem although, I guess low cpu usage would save electricity.
I have a leaning towards KDE apps, as opposed to Gnome apps, but I can run either (and do).
I do have wine installed, but I think I would prefer to use a native Linux app.
I look forward to suggestions. _________________ ...Lyall |
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makism Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 85
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: |
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hm, i was using Azureus for some but i changed for transmission, because it light and suits my needs :p (one basic cool feature that transmission lacks, is the ability to add trackers :~( ). |
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MostAwesomeDude Guru
Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 373
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:19 am Post subject: |
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rtorrent still beats everything else. Some people swear by uTorrent, although you'll need Wine for it. ktorrent is alright, but some people experience massive bugs. Azureus is awesome if you have the RAM and CPU for it; it's a beast. _________________ Don't believe the "n00b" under my name. |
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slackline Veteran
Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Posts: 1471 Location: /uk/sheffield
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Second transmission as a good option, its simple and lightweight, all I need from a torrent client. |
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lyallp Veteran
Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 1589 Location: Adelaide/Australia
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Tried rtorrent.
Seems ok, BUT
I have some torrents that I am seeding at the moment. Their files are spread around various directories, so, when I try loading the torrent files in .rtorrent, if the torrents files are not in the 'default dir', it promptly starts creating the files.
I can't symlink the files into the 'default' dir as the files exist on a FAT32 filesystem.
I want to be able to say 'load this torrent file and store its files here'.
Can I do that in rtorrent? _________________ ...Lyall |
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Cyker Veteran
Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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ktorrent FTW! |
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abracadaver Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 03 Feb 2003 Posts: 125
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Deluge is another option. It's like a lightweight Azureus (it's not based on Azureus at all, it just sort of "feels" like Azureus imo). It's also cross-platform in case you find yourself using Windows again. Also, you won't have to pull in a hundred Gnome or KDE dependencies either, so that's a plus. I highly recommend it. |
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micr0c0sm Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 29 Oct 2005 Posts: 148 Location: New York
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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tranmission / ktorrent
wish uTorrent was opensource that is one of my favorite programs. |
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GenKreton l33t
Joined: 20 Sep 2003 Posts: 828 Location: Cambridge, MA
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:40 am Post subject: |
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abracadaver wrote: | Deluge is another option. It's like a lightweight Azureus (it's not based on Azureus at all, it just sort of "feels" like Azureus imo). It's also cross-platform in case you find yourself using Windows again. Also, you won't have to pull in a hundred Gnome or KDE dependencies either, so that's a plus. I highly recommend it. |
Deluge is amazing. It is an extremely good client, and much lighter than Azureus. It supports full stream encryption, which is mandatory if you have some shitty ISP's and no alternatives, and you want to upload back to the community. |
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Bill Cosby Guru
Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 430 Location: Aachen, Germany
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:08 am Post subject: |
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GenKreton wrote: | abracadaver wrote: | Deluge is another option. It's like a lightweight Azureus (it's not based on Azureus at all, it just sort of "feels" like Azureus imo). It's also cross-platform in case you find yourself using Windows again. Also, you won't have to pull in a hundred Gnome or KDE dependencies either, so that's a plus. I highly recommend it. |
Deluge is amazing. It is an extremely good client, and much lighter than Azureus. It supports full stream encryption, which is mandatory if you have some shitty ISP's and no alternatives, and you want to upload back to the community. |
One should probably note, that Deluge is, like rtorrent, a frontend to libtorrent, it is more or less the graphical rtorrent. _________________ The Creature from Jekyll Island. |
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lyallp Veteran
Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 1589 Location: Adelaide/Australia
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Well, tried rtorrent - could not figure out how to tell it where to download individual torrents, other than in it's default directory - rejected.
kTorrent - looks promising
deluge - also looks promising but I tried adding one of my seeds and it spits a bit with
Code: | Raising error: libtorrent reports this is a duplicate torrent
Unable to add torrent: 'libtorrent reports this is a duplicate torrent'
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I think it may be that I have the .torrent in the directory I have set to be where to put the torrents (cos ktorrent and azureus have been configured to put the torrents there as well).
So, even though deluge looks promising, with a memory footprint of around 10% of Azureus, the above torrent issue leans me towards ktorrent (with memory usage at around 20% of Azureus).
Edit:
It would seem that kTorrent has a memory leak, in the order of about 50MB per 24 hours and it's CPU usage appears to increase over the same time period.
A fresh copy cruises at about 5-10% cpu, after 24 hours of continuous running, it bumbles along at around 15%. Fresh starts out at about 100MB of memory, after 24 hours, it has about 160MB
Azureus may use a bit more memory (well, that is debatable, I guess, with all the other KDE componentry that is required to keep the core ktorrent executable running) but doesn't seem to degrade quite as much.
Still, I like ktorrent, I will persevere for a while. _________________ ...Lyall |
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stuorguk Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 106 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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I found both KTorrent & Deluge unreliable. Deluge was very buggy, regularly loosing my torrents, or crashing on startup.
I'm going to try Azureus again. |
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ocin Guru
Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 500
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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I'm using hrktorrent. Simplicity ftw. |
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Cyker Veteran
Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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lyallp wrote: |
Edit:
It would seem that kTorrent has a memory leak, in the order of about 50MB per 24 hours and it's CPU usage appears to increase over the same time period.
A fresh copy cruises at about 5-10% cpu, after 24 hours of continuous running, it bumbles along at around 15%. Fresh starts out at about 100MB of memory, after 24 hours, it has about 160MB |
This may be partly by design - KTorrent will, by default use a lot of system resources so it can handle lots of connections as quickly as possible. This is why as more people connect to you or vice versa, the CPU and memory usage grows.
To reduce the expansion, try setting the options for memory and CPU use lower, and lowering the max connections for global and per-torrent, then restart it. |
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lyallp Veteran
Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 1589 Location: Adelaide/Australia
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:09 am Post subject: |
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I admit I do like the extra information available to me in Azureus although, in kTorrent, the time limit or ratio limit throttles I do like, and the in-built torrent search.
I will see how kTorrent goes after a week of uptime.
Nothing like being open minded to new or different ideas.
With regard to memory usage, etc, the same should apply to Azurues. _________________ ...Lyall |
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Nick C Guru
Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 526 Location: Portsmouth, England
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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ive found qbittorrent to be very good, torrents come down as fast as with utorrent in windows, and is DE agnostic and looks and works just fine in gnome.
Its biggest downside (if you can call it that) is that its built with qt4 (but no KDE deps) so if you dont already have that installed expect a longer compile. _________________ Please add [solved] to the initial post's subject line if you feel your problem is resolved.
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stuorguk Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 106 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:24 am Post subject: |
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qBittorrent Looks really good. Thanks, I will look into that. |
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lyallp Veteran
Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 1589 Location: Adelaide/Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Subsequent evaluation of kTorrent shows that my concerns for memory and cpu where unfounded. _________________ ...Lyall |
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pdr l33t
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 618
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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I use screen and bittornado (it's curses client), but I don't seed files.. |
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mmoufid n00b
Joined: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 22 Location: Ottawa ON
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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lyallp wrote: | Tried rtorrent.
Seems ok, BUT
I have some torrents that I am seeding at the moment. Their files are spread around various directories, so, when I try loading the torrent files in .rtorrent, if the torrents files are not in the 'default dir', it promptly starts creating the files.
I can't symlink the files into the 'default' dir as the files exist on a FAT32 filesystem.
I want to be able to say 'load this torrent file and store its files here'.
Can I do that in rtorrent? |
Yes.
.rtorrent.rc:
Quote: | schedule = watch_directory_1,60,60,"load_start=/your/torrent/directory/tv/*torrent,d.set_custom1=/your/destination/directory/Shows/"
schedule = watch_directory_2,60,60,"load_start=/your/torrent/directory/movies/*torrent,d.set_custom1=/your/destination/directory/Movies/"
schedule = watch_directory_3,60,60,"load_start=/your/torrent/directory/music/*torrent,d.set_custom1=/your/destination/directory/Music/"
on_finished = move_complete,"execute=mv,-u,$d.get_base_path=,$d.get_custom1= ;d.set_directory=$d.get_custom1="
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See: official documentation.
Transmission can probably do this as well, and it has an ncurses interface now. |
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lyallp Veteran
Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 1589 Location: Adelaide/Australia
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Well, I have been using kTorrent for a while now.
Happy with it, in general.
The only problem I have with it is that if I add a new torrent, it 'hangs' whilst (I assume) it goes off and creates the data files.
I also note that if the files are large (or should I say, the sum of all the files in a torrent is large), it has an extremely adverse effect on my overall machine performance, causing all my apps to become extremely sluggish. I attribute this to my I/O system being completely overloaded.
Using azureus, I never noticed this 'I/O Overload'.
It's not as though I use a heavy GUI like KDE or Gnome (I use fluxbox), or my PC is that slow (it's only a 2.8Ghz P4 with hyperthreading, not Dual core) or I have low memory (2GB).
It's possible that part of the problem may be the fact that I download my files into a FAT32 filesystem, maybe I should experiment with using my other XFS filesystems (I don't trust ntfs-3g to work well enough at this stage). _________________ ...Lyall |
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MarioCorleone Guru
Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 336
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:34 am Post subject: |
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torrentflux is the best one out there, using minimal amounts of ram, and run via browser, check it out. _________________ -Mario |
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tgR10 Apprentice
Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Posts: 262 Location: caly ten ambaras
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:01 am Post subject: |
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lyallp wrote: |
I can't symlink the files into the 'default' dir as the files exist on a FAT32 filesystem.
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why not lol ?
Code: | lady-croft ~ # fdisk -l|grep FAT && mount|grep sda2
/dev/sda2 15 2113 16860217+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda2 on /mnt/windows type vfat (rw)
lady-croft ~ # ln -s /mnt/windows/windows/ /root/windows |
you can create symlinks to files on fat partition but you CAN NOT create symlink on fat partition
mario18 wrote: | torrentflux is the best one out there, using minimal amounts of ram, and run via browser, check it out. |
tf it's a lot of ram ...
rtorrent and rtorrent only ! or if you need gui ktorrent ;) _________________ "bo kto ma racje ? ten kto z bliska zobaczy"
"moge nie wiedziec,wchlaniam niewiedze z malych torebek"
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mwhitlock Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 87 Location: New Hampshire, USA
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: ktorrent leaks memory |
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I don't care what the ktorrent developers say, ktorrent leaks memory. I've been running it for about 6 days now, and its VmRSS is over a gigabyte! (When the process was new, it was under 100 MB.) And this is with ktorrent's "Memory usage" option set to "Low"! Hah, that's laughable.
Code: | $ cat /proc/$(pgrep ktorrent)/status
Name: ktorrent
State: S (sleeping)
Tgid: 3023
Pid: 3023
PPid: 1
TracerPid: 0
Uid: 1000 1000 1000 1000
Gid: 100 100 100 100
FDSize: 1024
Groups: 6 10 16 18 19 27 35 80 85 100 250 410 440
VmPeak: 1576080 kB
VmSize: 1537848 kB
VmLck: 0 kB
VmHWM: 1209504 kB
VmRSS: 1193472 kB
VmData: 1324520 kB
VmStk: 84 kB
VmExe: 776 kB
VmLib: 36436 kB
VmPTE: 2828 kB
Threads: 3
SigQ: 0/71680
SigPnd: 0000000000000000
ShdPnd: 0000000000000000
SigBlk: 0000000000000000
SigIgn: 0000000001001000
SigCgt: 0000000180010ca8
CapInh: 0000000000000000
CapPrm: 0000000000000000
CapEff: 0000000000000000
voluntary_ctxt_switches: 22681717
nonvoluntary_ctxt_switches: 1473966 |
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i92guboj Bodhisattva
Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 10315 Location: Córdoba (Spain)
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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I just use mldonkey. It can handle torrents and lots of other p2p protocols, and it is not tied to kde or gnome. There are many interfaces for it, like kmldonkey, but you can also use the telnet or web frontends, which means you don't need to install a new client on each machine if you want to admin your p2p remotely. |
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