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 Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: Gentoo is great |
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| Sorry I know there's lots of posts like this cluttering the forum. Just wanted to say though this community is so awesome. I've been using Windows for so long and I always do a short dabbling in Linux then go back. I'm not totally free of it yet but installing and tinkering with Gentoo has been by far my most fun and rewarding experience with Linux. The documentation is just what I wanted... you can easily find help for any topic and it tells you clearly what to do but also what is going on so you learn something. People in the Gentoo IRC were always patient and helpful with questions. I wish this had been the first distro I tried, because when all the learning and "do it yourself" is taken out of Linux, I feel there was no good incentive (besides open source philosophy) for switching over from my working Windows XP system. Some people say start with Ubuntu or SUSE if you're fresh from Windows... I'd say try Gentoo and become hooked! |
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poly_poly-man
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the one thing I love about gentoo - (sarcasm) - it only takes 3 days to get from stage1 to stage3 on an alpha persional workstation 600a. Ntm ooo takes only 4 hours to build on my amd 64 4000+.
gentoo is fine, but if you're into diy and want a system that might not work right, go lfs.
Also, I've had tons of diy fun building polypux...
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I too think Gentoo is great.
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jamescow
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| poly_poly-man wrote: |
gentoo is fine, but if you're into diy and want a system that might not work right, go lfs.
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I'm going to try LFS actually one of these days as a learning exercise. I guess I meant Gentoo is a nice compromise between a powerful, working system, and a kind of "sandbox" where you can have the satisfaction of doing your own thing. |
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poly_poly-man
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| jamescow wrote: | | poly_poly-man wrote: |
gentoo is fine, but if you're into diy and want a system that might not work right, go lfs.
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I'm going to try LFS actually one of these days as a learning exercise. I guess I meant Gentoo is a nice compromise between a powerful, working system, and a kind of "sandbox" where you can have the satisfaction of doing your own thing. |
The difference is: Gentoo will give you a working system for a lot less effort, LFS is a learning tool to be done on a box/vm that you don't care about.
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| poly_poly-man wrote: | the one thing I love about gentoo - (sarcasm) - it only takes 3 days to get from stage1 to stage3 on an alpha persional workstation 600a. Ntm ooo takes only 4 hours to build on my amd 64 4000+
gentoo is fine, but if you're into diy and want a system that might not work right, go lfs.
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That's resume my opinion. With a Quad Core, the compilation time is not a blocker no more and LFS can be a really big challenge in fact.
With Gentoo, you have at least a package manager that give you the right depends 
With LFS, you do it manually |
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| poly_poly-man wrote: | the one thing I love about gentoo - (sarcasm) - it only takes 3 days to get from stage1 to stage3 on an alpha persional workstation 600a. Ntm ooo takes only 4 hours to build on my amd 64 4000+.
gentoo is fine, but if you're into diy and want a system that might not work right, go lfs.
Also, I've had tons of diy fun building polypux... |
and you didn't use distcc and cross compile to speed things up because....?
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d2: what's to stop one from installing Portage on LFS? (Other than it basically becoming Gentoo when you do that, of course.)
Even though Gentoo is a bit slower at some things, its features more than make up for it, and for people like me*, it is probably the best distro out there.
*People who like to know what's happening and want to get a say in it, and love to customise things.
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| Sir Link wrote: | | d2: what's to stop one from installing Portage on LFS? (Other than it basically becoming Gentoo when you do that, of course.) |
Nothing, except portage doesn't work with user-based package management. |
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| Is there a howto about that ? |
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poly_poly-man
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| NotQuiteSane wrote: | | poly_poly-man wrote: | the one thing I love about gentoo - (sarcasm) - it only takes 3 days to get from stage1 to stage3 on an alpha persional workstation 600a. Ntm ooo takes only 4 hours to build on my amd 64 4000+.
gentoo is fine, but if you're into diy and want a system that might not work right, go lfs.
Also, I've had tons of diy fun building polypux... |
and you didn't use distcc and cross compile to speed things up because....?
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I'm a masochist?
also - #1, can you do that from stage1, and #2, I've never been able to set that up.. ever.
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| outermeasure wrote: | | Sir Link wrote: | | d2: what's to stop one from installing Portage on LFS? (Other than it basically becoming Gentoo when you do that, of course.) |
Nothing, except portage doesn't work with user-based package management. |
sure it does, just mask all the stuff that you'd like to manage, and hope to god you can manage it. |
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| poly_poly-man wrote: | | NotQuiteSane wrote: | | poly_poly-man wrote: | the one thing I love about gentoo - (sarcasm) - it only takes 3 days to get from stage1 to stage3 on an alpha persional workstation 600a. Ntm ooo takes only 4 hours to build on my amd 64 4000+.
gentoo is fine, but if you're into diy and want a system that might not work right, go lfs.
Also, I've had tons of diy fun building polypux... |
and you didn't use distcc and cross compile to speed things up because....?
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I'm a masochist?
also - #1, can you do that from stage1, and #2, I've never been able to set that up.. ever. |
don't quote me, but I am pretty sure you can bootstrap using distcc and crossdev. actually, I really don't see why not... |
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bobthegate
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:15 am Post subject: Gentoo just works |
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Gentoo is not "great" or bad, Gentoo just works.
I started with an early RedHat distro, then tried several other distro's, then settled with Freebsd because of its stability.
I came across Gentoo oneday, read the blurbs on the website, liked the idea, tried it on a second machine and never looked back.
I have been using Gentoo over 4 years now and learned a lot.
Although Gentoo varies over time in its stability (My impression, may not be true in fact) it has never been unusable.
And yes, I am hooked on Gentoo!
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