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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: what architecture? Reply with quote

Simple. I have Intel Core2 Quad processor, and I don't know which arch should I take - x86 (that displays all windows scripts) or amd64 (as it is on gentoo.org).

Which one?
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on what you want to do, both will work, but it's a balance
X86 will be slower for heavily mathematical tasks but all your firefox plugins will work and you'll have more and newer ebuilds in portage. AMD64 is also a little bit harder to install.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another consideration is how much RAM you have.

For 3GB or less, x86 and amd64 will run about the same.
For more than that, a 64bit operating system has a big advantage.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even with the 64bit operating system, you can use the x86_64 kernel and everything should work just as well, if not better than a pure 32 bit environment.

Of course, as amd64 is still not completely as mainstream as x86 is, there's a couple workarounds in getting some apps to run as they should (namely Firefox).

That's what the forums are here for though =P

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 4Gb of RAM and I already have had amd64 gentoo... (on previous computer)

and there's only i686 and amd64 2008.0_beta2 LiveCD :)

Thanks for help.

Ahh, and I got one question. What will happen, if I run old gentoo (2006.0, its kernel was for Athlon 64 processor) on quadcore computer? Malfunction, kernel panic, or worse? xD
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would depend on how much it is optimized for the athlon arch... IIRC the kernel does only mtune optimization, thus it could work. Provided that all other modules are available (thinking mainly of jmicron sata controller...)

and there could be the problem of only having one single core, as smp is missing.

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will try to run it when I'll be sure I won't damage anything with that... so tell me :)
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The chances that you'll cause hardware damage by using your old install are on par with getting struck by lighting :wink: It may not work because of the lack of support for your current chipset and hardware but it shouldnt smoke your box.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can help it, I would get the latest version (2008 beta2). Running the older version won't necessarily harm your computer, but you'll have a lot more updating to do than if you run the newest version.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know about that updating, I am already downloading beta2 amd64 and x86 ;)
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how do I burn 835Mb gentoo iso (x86 beta2 LiveCD) on 700Mb CD? Somebody explain this to me.
I do not have DVD burner and I don't have money to buy it.
Why are they doing such a horrible things to me? ;_;
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use the minimal install cd and the installation guide?
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

termite wrote:
Use the minimal install cd and the installation guide?

or use sysrescd - similar to gentoo minimal cd but has basic xorg support
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can get 800mb cd if you know where to look.
Then you can overburn that by 35mb
Infact, you can even get 900mb cd's.
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