You want the other KDE-CVS thread

iamlarryboy · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 4:06 am Post subject: You want the other KDE-CVS thread

I am no longer (for now anyway) maintaining the builds. However, Yokem55 is. You can find his thread here.

daen1543 · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 4:21 am Post subject:

I'd be interested to try KDE from CVS, but I'm a little concerned about the possible breakage. How likely, in your experience, is it that something will break so bad as to make KDE unusable?

iamlarryboy · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 6:30 am Post subject: Not very

I am running just cvs. However, I understand you can run both kde 3.1 and cvs at the same time. Only once has anything been unusable. The only problem was konqueror; I just used mozilla. Unless you really need stability I wouldn't worry about running cvs.

hook · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 6:32 am Post subject:

frankly, no i wouldn't ...i do enjoy my system to be up-to-date but i'm not a update-freak and cvs-ebuilds IMO just aren't worth the (=my) trouble to make them work. i would install cvs ebuilds of any app when/if i REALLY need to use the cvs version ...which doesn't happen very often with me :]

but i'm sure some might take insterest and even profit (not money!) from nightly-cvs ebuilds
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iamlarryboy · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 6:37 am Post subject:

iamlarryboy · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 1:51 am Post subject: hmm...

There doesn't seem to be that much interest. Oh well.

Unne · l33t Joined: 21 Jul 2003 Posts: 616

My only problem is, if KDE breaks, which I'd have to guess is pretty likely with something from CVS, it'll take hours and hours to re-emerge the original non-busted stable version. I can't afford to be KDE-less for that long a time. Unless there's something really new and useful in the CVS version, I don't think it's worth it.

I often comment to my roomies that I can't stand it when my computer is working perfectly; it doesn't give me something to fiddle with. --iamlarryboy

Oh, that's me too. *shame*

daen1543 · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 8:55 pm Post subject:

shm · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 9:25 pm Post subject:

idl · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 9:28 pm Post subject:

*cough* ccache *cough* distcc *cough*

ebrostig · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 11:54 pm Post subject:

I would love to get the builds since I can't use CVS through our firewall. I just wish more projects would use BitKeeper which handles firewalls just fine.

Erik
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iamlarryboy · Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 1:23 am Post subject: I think.

If I decide to make the builds available it will be a day or two. I just hosed my entire system. (note to self NEVER downgrade glibc :-)

) However I should have some packages ready by say Sunday. I will make the packages available on a to be announced website. However, I am just running on a cable modem and I do NOT want to piss off the cable company (although Shaw is really good.) If the I am burning through too much bandwidth I may have to take the site down. It would be nice if I could just upload the packages to an official gentoo site somewhere. If I am getting lots of traffic I may ask. The builds will be "-mcpu=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe" optimized. Those should run on any PC but will still be optimized for mine.

iamlarryboy · Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 12:50 am Post subject: kay

I finaly got arround to putting a cvs build of kde up. it can be found here.

In the end it was compiled with the following:
gcc 3.2.3-r1
glibc 2.3.2-1
-mcpu=athlon-xp -03 -pipe

The file is a tar of the packages that portage generates. Untar it in some directory. For example "~/kde-cvs". Then "cd /" "tar -xfj ~/kde-cvs/*.tbz2". If things are not working check to make sure you have all the dependancies installed. For your convenience I have included the output of "emerge kde -ep" from my system. It is contained in the file "kde-ep.txt".

I probably will not be updating the builds nightly but perhaps twice weekly. I do not wan't to waste too much bandwith and piss off my ISP. However, any hosting and/or mirrors would help.

ebrostig · Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:13 am Post subject:

Great job!

I for one will check it out.

I think that twice a week is more than enough, maybe even just once is fine unless there are some really big changes/bugs/security flaws that pops up.

Just to have the ability to install parallell the cvs version when you can't access the source with cvs due to a braindead design of cvs is super!

Again, good job!

Erik
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ebrostig · Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:58 am Post subject:

Just downloaded thet tarball about 100mb

The only problem was that it was not possible to unpack the following file:

kde-5.tbz2

iamlarryboy · Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 3:33 am Post subject: Me too

Ya I get that warning on all my gentoo packages. Portage must add some garbage or something. It works at any rate. As for the kde-5 package I will check it out as soon as I have acces to my computer again. the kde-5 ebuild is really small. if you get the kde-cvs ebuilds you should be able to install that one package. you may have to tell it to ignore dependancies.

ps: note to self include a md5.

iamlarryboy · Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 6:53 am Post subject: K

After a bit of investigation I found that the garbage is completely normal. Apparently portage generates it and it can be completely ignored.

I think I figured out why kde-5.tbz2 isn't working. It is just an empty archive. I re-emerged kde-5 on my system and it didn't install any files. Hence the empty archive. Apparently the kde-5 ebuilds only purpose is to tell portage that kde is installed. In future versions I won't include this file.

Also security freaks can rest at night now that there an md5 to go along with the file. Well other than the fact that you are running untested software. From an untrusted source. With no practical way to verify the software. Or the distributor. Or the progamer(s). but hey who needs security anyway :-)

ebrostig · Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 11:20 pm Post subject:

Cool

Thanks for looking into it.

I'll give it another try tonight to see if I can get it up and running.

Thanks again for your great effort!

Erik
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iamlarryboy · Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 2:28 am Post subject: Please do

lucida · Apprentice Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 191

I've been running KDE cvs for about 5 months and it's great. I update my kde every 2 days and have deleted the old 3.1.

With the help of ccache, an "emerge kdelibs kdebase" only takes less than 3 hours on my athlon 1.2G.

iamlarryboy · Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 3:41 am Post subject: Sorry.

Sorry. If you havn't been able to reach the site. A really bad forest fire in B.C (Canada) killed internet access for a few days. I am also working on some new builds. I am building gentoo in a directory specifically for compiling the packages. I am costomizing the use flags and compile options specifically for the build. Also with the next builds I will probably also make a tarball of the source that the binaries were built with. I am also looking at binary diffs and source diffs. I may also buy some actual server space. these guys look cool. The only question is if I can justify the $15/month (USD) cost. Especially as I am Canadian. At any rate keep your eyes out for new packages. Although it may be a few days.

iamlarryboy · Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 6:43 am Post subject: NEW BUILDS!!!!

Hey everyone!!! NEW builds are available. Check them out here. I apreciate any feedback. so let me know how the install went.

XVegitto · n00b Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 7

Hey iamlarryboy

The Readme on the site not linked corectly...just need to fix a typo!

But Great Builds!

iamlarryboy · Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 11:16 pm Post subject:

iamlarryboy

New builds available. Grab them here.
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