screenlets pulls some heavy gnome stuff in

BloodyAlice · n00b Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 38

I use gnome light because I really don't need much of the bloat that comes with gnome. However I like a nice desktop look, and so I installed screenlets from the desktop-effects overlay. Went quite well, except it pulled in a LOT of stuff I don't want/need. Aroud 17 packages, most things being media-related, here's some of the stuff that came with it:

http://i26.tinypic.com/dywzl4.png

now, I tried unmerging totem, but when I rebuild the deps it comes back

even though I tried disabling the desktop-effects overlay. It's kinda weired since I can't see why screenlets would need any of that stuff... some screenlets do have sound, yes, but they use mplayer not totem or the likes.

here's revdep-rebuild after unmerging totem:

http://i26.tinypic.com/t56h3o.png

Maliwik · Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject:

Screenlets post.

Third post from the bottom has some related information to your problem.

I don't use Screenlets, so I'm not sure if this would help or not, but give it a try =)

--Mike
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BloodyAlice · n00b Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 38

yweah... I'd really want to know how to stop those gnome-python things and that entire bloat from getting slammed onto my machine

Maliwik · Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 12:15 am Post subject:

freedomeagle1967 · n00b Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 52 Location: Minnesota

just put USE flag -gnome in make.conf
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BloodyAlice · n00b Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 38

lol freedom, you must be joking! that's gonna wipe all gnome support from my stuff, b ut I'm gonna try setting it in package.use

BloodyAlice · n00b Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 38

But there's just a small problem....I ran equery and eix to look for the flags and it seems x11-plugins/screenlets has no use flags

gimpel · Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:13 am Post subject:

I simply copied the gnome-python-desktop ebuild in my local overlay, and removed all stuff from DEPEND which I didn't want to waste space on my disk, i.e. nautilus, totem etc.
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BloodyAlice · n00b Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 38

you mean screenlets pulls in gnome-python-desktop which in turn has all those deps? wouldn't it be better to contact the guy who maintains the overlay and ask him to delete the depend stuff? I mean you really don't need totem to run python... what's the idea behind setting those things as deps anyway?

nixnut · Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject:

Moved from Desktop Environments to Unsupported Software.
Overlay stuff, so unsupported.
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gimpel · Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject:

BloodyAlice · n00b Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 38

yeah, that's what I was suggesting, making that meta-package smaller, only I used deps when reffering to the components of the meta package

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and why won't anyone make a more lightweight, gentoo style python meta package? I'm not really into making ebuilds and overlays and the such and neither do I have the willingness to add another possible breakage source to my portage configuration... but since you said you already modified the meta package yourself couldn't you just send it to the devs, mybe let them make a gnome-python-desktop-light metapackage or just put yours in as the standard meta package and the rest as the additional-gentoo-desktop-python-bloat package

gimpel · Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 2:49 pm Post subject:

This was discussed already in some other threads. gnome-python-desktop's build system doesn't really allow modular builds, and making everything in there a useflag would cause a need of changes in every package depending on it. Understandably nobody is really willing to do that.
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termite · Guru Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 466

Actually, it's in progress: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108479

BloodyAlice · n00b Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 38

thanks for the link termite.... but I really can't figure out how far this thing got..

freedomeagle1967 · n00b Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 52 Location: Minnesota

Sorry if my suggestion caused you any grief, not my intent. i understood that you did not want gnome auto pulled in and that is the best way to make sure things do not get pulled in. i do not have a lot of USE setting in make.conf. i found my system far more stable to USE in package.use. it is a little more work but i found that the benefits are huge.

again i was not trying to cause you grief.
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termite · Guru Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 466

BloodyAlice: it's in early stages. I've had some success with just editing the gnome-python-desktop ebuild and removing the dependencies I don't need, then putting it in my own overlay.