fam flag - circular dependencies in 2008.0 desktop profile

NathanZachary · Moderator Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 2605

Hello all,

I just wanted to let everyone know that there seems to be a problem with the fam USE flag (which is set by default in the 2008.0 desktop profile. On Sunday, when 2008.0 was released, this problem didn't happen. However, if one is installing now using the 2008.0 desktop profile, certain things will not emerge properly. For instance, syslog-ng will report circular dependencies between glib and gamin. xorg-x11 will report circular dependencies between glib, gamin, xinit, consolekit, dbus-glib, xf86-input-mouse, xorg-server, and nvidia-drivers.

For now, the easy workaround is to use the default profile until after these tools have been emerged. Then, one can switch to the desktop profile and do an emerge -avuDN world to update all packages using the new flags of the desktop profile. If anyone has any suggestions or other input, please feel free to comment here.

Bug: 231373
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yabbadabbadont · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:43 am Post subject:

What happens if you disable the fam flag, then re-enable it after the initial emerges?

Edit: And "emerge -uDN world" of course.

NathanZachary · Moderator Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 2605

I have not tried this idea yet. Of course, it could also be done the way that dberkholz suggested, by just using USE="-fam" for emerging syslog-ng and xorg-x11. I'm not yet sure if other packages are also affected by the fam flag.
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Xenoist

KDE is affected too.
I set -fam for the USE Flags in /etc/make.conf
But it's ok cause I'm remerging the whole world because of the gcc update and glibc update's.
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razixx · Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:32 am Post subject:

Hi trying to install amd64 gentoo on my system, and it's erroring out right while trying to emerge gentoo-sources, would this also be related to USE="fam" flag?

desultory · Bodhisattva Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 9410

Doubtful, in either case being able to diagnose the problem is likely contingent upon having the exact text of the error messages.

NathanZachary · Moderator Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 2605

skellr · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:53 am Post subject:

app-admin/gamin is what provides "fam" and gamin needs glib to build. And glib needs gamin to be installed to build with fam support. If glib is built first without fam, then gamin can be built after glib is installed.

NathanZachary · Moderator Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 2605

bbarao · n00b Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 3

I've solved it with this two steps:

robel · n00b Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 2

He easy workaround is to use the default profile until after these tools have been emerged. Then, one can switch to the desktop profile and do an emerge -avuDN world to update all packages using the new flags of the desktop profile. If anyone has any suggestions or other input, please feel free to comment here.

NathanZachary · Moderator Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 2605

It does seem like the easiest workaround is to do as robel suggested and use the default profile, later switching to the desktop and rebuilding.
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idella4 · Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:10 am Post subject:

I've tried this workaround twice now. I end up with a system with a couple of packages that won't effectively re-compile. The update world appears to have some in-built flaws which I consider a problem. The latest packages were kdemultimedia and a java related package, cyrus-sasl.
Will this fam flag's impact be resolved so as not to cause this ugly set of circular dependencies?
I wonder if the desktop profile should be avoided at all costs until it is.
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psilo357 · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 84

There are many problems with this profile. Well, at least more circular dependencies on very common packages to a desktop install. If you try to emerge nvidia-drivers, hal, or xorg, they all drop the same circular dependencies...and since im still on original command line, it is too much trouble to go through and figure out which flags are causing it. Switching back to just the default profile solved the problem...

peace

flinkdeldinky · n00b Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 18

NathanZachary · Moderator Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 2605

After having done multiple test installations since the initial posting, this issue seems to have been resolved; Unpinning.
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