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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:51 pm    Post subject: opera 9.51 Reply with quote

I just upgraded opera 9.51 from 9.50 ... and it freezes all the time. I thought 9.50 was bad, but this is even worse... Anyone got an idea of what's wrong? Didn't have much probl with 9.27 ...

the 9.50 series was suppose to be fast, but is it too fast for gentoo (sorry, couldn't resist that one ...).
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you run it from the command line what does it complain about ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The browser goes into its cold state during the loading of plugins, it seems. When it's done loading/checking one plugin the web page itself gets loaded ... (not really sure if this sounds awkward or not).

Running opera from command line :

Code:

opera: Plug-in 9996 is not responding. It will be closed.
opera: Define environment variable OPERA_KEEP_BLOCKED_PLUGIN to keep blocked plug-ins.
opera: Plug-in 10083 is not responding. It will be closed.
opera: Define environment variable OPERA_KEEP_BLOCKED_PLUGIN to keep blocked plug-ins.
opera: Plug-in 10104 is not responding. It will be closed.
opera: Define environment variable OPERA_KEEP_BLOCKED_PLUGIN to keep blocked plug-ins.
opera: Plug-in 10125 is not responding. It will be closed.
opera: Define environment variable OPERA_KEEP_BLOCKED_PLUGIN to keep blocked plug-ins.
opera: Plug-in 10150 is not responding. It will be closed.
opera: Define environment variable OPERA_KEEP_BLOCKED_PLUGIN to keep blocked plug-ins.


The four last plugins were all from the same page.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm

I'd emerge -C opera then emerge it again...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that's always an option ... :wink:
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just a reminder, if you're on 64 bit, you need to add the ia32 useflag if you want the 32 bit version of opera with versions >=9.50
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... no 32-bit... But the error is more sinister than this, have re-installed a few times already:

Code:

usr/share/opera/ini/filehandler.ini: OK
usr/share/opera/ini/font.ini: OK
usr/share/opera/ini/pluginpath.ini: FEIL
usr/share/opera/skin/standard_skin.zip: OK
usr/share/opera/skin/windows_skin.zip: OK
usr/share/opera/opera6.adr: OK
usr/share/opera/search.ini: OK
usr/share/opera/lngcode.txt: OK
usr/share/opera/html40_entities.dtd: OK
usr/share/opera/svg-mo.dat: OK
usr/share/opera/svg-mobd.dat: OK
usr/share/opera/svg-sa.dat: OK
usr/share/opera/svg-sabd.dat: OK
usr/share/opera/svg-se.dat: OK
usr/share/opera/svg-sebd.dat: OK
usr/share/opera/encoding.bin: OK
usr/share/doc/opera/LICENSE: OK
usr/share/doc/opera/LGPL: OK
usr/share/man/man1/opera.1: OK
usr/share/pixmaps/opera.xpm: OK
usr/lib/opera/9.51/missingsyms.so: OK
usr/lib/opera/9.51/spellcheck.so: OK
usr/lib/opera/9.51/opera: OK
usr/lib/opera/9.51/works: OK
usr/lib/opera/9.51/operaplugincleaner: OK
usr/lib/opera/9.51/operapluginwrapper: OK
etc/opera6rc.fixed: OK
etc/opera6rc: OK
opera: OK
md5sum: WARNING: 1 of 230 computed checksums did NOT match



Sorry for this slow reply, I greatly appreciate the help I can get, just ran into heavy complications issuing a emerge --update --deep --newuse world, which seriously put a bad spell on my system ...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the emerge is listing checksum errros then it's no surprise you're having problems!!

Try and fix that first; If it still doesnt work, then rar/7z/tgz up your .opera folder then delete it.

One of opera's failings is that it doesn't handle older config files as well as it could.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... tested on a clean install (failed on a recent Sabayon-install), seems to work just fine on a clean Gentoo-install (the checksum error is still present, though, with no compiz-fusion, not that I'm trying to blame compiz for anything).

Well, feelin' still like a :?:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

g2g591 wrote:
just a reminder, if you're on 64 bit, you need to add the ia32 useflag if you want the 32 bit version of opera with versions >=9.50


I set ia32 then did rm -rf ~/.opera;emerge -C opera;emerge opera. Opera is still locking up:

Code:

bob@tux ~ $ opera
ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
opera: Plug-in 4320 is not responding. It will be closed.
opera: Define environment variable OPERA_KEEP_BLOCKED_PLUGIN to keep blocked plug-ins.


What are these plug-in numbers? They seem random. I've got a single
site loaded: http://www.keelynet.com/

I'd dump Opera for Firefox but the RSS reader in Opera works far better than
any I've found for Firefox. I've been using Opera since version 2.xx something,
why does it keep getting worse??

This is on a AMD64 box.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my experience it is not opera it is just the interplay with flash that is getting worse every version.
The site you provide has flash and javascript ads, that is not really simple.

Have you tried a different flash program?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaste wrote:

Have you tried a different flash program?


I have not. What do you recommend?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ones i know of are gnash and swfdec-mozilla. I haven`t tried either because i am lazy and upgrading to the version 10 of flash solved it for me (or at least mostly). But since you are interested maybe I`ll try myself. :)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaste wrote:
The ones i know of are gnash and swfdec-mozilla. I haven`t tried either because i am lazy and upgrading to the version 10 of flash solved it for me (or at least mostly). But since you are interested maybe I`ll try myself. :)


Tried gnash. http://www.keelynet.com locked up first try, still waiting for it to unlock so I can kill it.
Is there anything I need to change in Opera itself to use gnash? Off to do revdep-rebuild...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gmtonger: Has you fix your checksum problem? Try a emerge --sync, that proper will fix that one.

Kaste: I tried the swfdec-mozilla-0.6.0 on my 64-bit system. I would say wait till 0.7.2 or later make into to portage ...
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaste wrote:
From my experience it is not opera it is just the interplay with flash that is getting worse every version.
The site you provide has flash and javascript ads, that is not really simple.

Have you tried a different flash program?


Interview with Opera CTO Hakon Wium Lie by James Gray

http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/interview-opera-cto-h%C3%A5kon-wium-lie

"Products Editor James Gray recently sat down for a virtual gab fest with
Hakon Wium Lie Chief Technology Officer of Opera. They discussed Opera 9.5,
Opera's history, why Linux users should choose Opera and much more."

The Opera CTO's email address is at the bottom of that message.
I wanted to scream after reading how great Opera is on Linux now. :-(
Send him a message and ask that it really make it work on Gentoo.

http://people.opera.com/howcome
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi.

I had the same problem I solved it by checking the plugins.
opera 9.51 uses more then one flashplugin.

Check the plugin-options and deactivate some directories.

extras ----> setup -----> contents ----> plugin-options

click on flashplayer and then "change path"

Here you'll find all installed and different flashplayers.
You have to try out which one is the right one.

Have success.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will do as soon as consolekit compiles ... have recently had some problems with my gentoo box ... for the moment there's no desktop, just the console. Thanks for the tips.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

Håkon Wium Lie to me

show details 3:07 AM (3 hours ago)
Reply

Also sprach Bob Paddock:

> "I just upgraded opera 9.51 from 9.50 ... and it freezes all the time.
> I thought 9.50 was bad, but this is even worse... Anyone got an idea
> of what's wrong? Didn't have much probl with 9.27 ...

I've forwarded your letter to the linux people. I don't experience
these problems under Ubuntu. Let me know if you find our more about
the causes.

Cheers,

-h&kon
Håkon Wium Lie CTO °þe®ª
http://people.opera.com/howcome

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bloedie wrote:
Hi.

I had the same problem I solved it by checking the plugins.
opera 9.51 uses more then one flashplugin.

Check the plugin-options and deactivate some directories.

extras ----> setup -----> contents ----> plugin-options

click on flashplayer and then "change path"

Here you'll find all installed and different flashplayers.
You have to try out which one is the right one.

Have success.

Cu.
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Where do you find 'Extras' in Opera 9.51?

In the address bar put:

Code:

opera:plugins


Where my install shows a single:
Code:
/opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so


Code:
opera:about


shows

Code:

Paths
Preferences
/home/bob/.opera/opera6.ini
Saved session
/home/bob/.opera/sessions/autopera.win
Bookmarks
/home/bob/.opera/opera6.adr
Opera directory
/home/bob/.opera/
Cache
/home/bob/.opera/cache4/
Help documents
/home/bob/.opera/opcache/
Mail directory
/home/bob/.opera//mail/
Plug-in path
/opt/netscape/plugins
/opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
/usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins
/usr/lib64/nsbrowser/plugins
/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
/opt/Adobe/Reader8/Browser/intellinux
User CSS directory
/home/bob/.opera/styles/user/
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bloedie wrote:

I had the same problem I solved it by checking the plugins.
opera 9.51 uses more then one flashplugin.
Check the plugin-options and deactivate some directories.
extras ----> setup -----> contents ----> plugin-options



One thing I have found is that what you see in the GUI of Opera does *NOT* match what is
the ~/.opera/opera6.ini file.

I found this mess in opera6.ini:

Code:

application/x-shockwave-flash=3,/opt/netscape/plugins/libgnashplugin.so,/opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so,Shockwave Flash,swf,|Shockwave Flash 9.0 r124
application/futuresplash=6,,/opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so,Shockwave Flash,spl,|Shockwave Flash 9.0 r124


which I changed to:

Code:

application/x-shockwave-flash=0,,,,,|
application/futuresplash=0,,,,,|


BTW what is Futhersplash?

Also have:

Code:

Plugin Path=/opt/Acrobat5/Browsers/intellinux:/opt/netscape/plugins:/usr/lib/netscape/plugins:/opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins:/usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/plugins


I closed Opera and rm *'d just about every thing in the .opera directory then did:

Code:

bob@tux ~/.opera $ egrep -ir libflashplayer.so *
bob@tux ~/.opera $


No 'libflashplayer.so' to be found, start Opera and look
at opera:plugins where I still have libflashplayer.so! :-(

Code:

Shockwave Flashapplication/x-shockwave-flash   swf
application/futuresplash   spl
/opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.soShockwave Flashapplication/x-shockwave-flash   swf
application/futuresplash   spl
/opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so


and it continues to lock up with:

Code:


opera: Plug-in 28970 is not responding. It will be closed.
opera: Define environment variable OPERA_KEEP_BLOCKED_PLUGIN to keep blocked plug-ins.
opera: Plug-in 29000 is not responding. It will be closed.
opera: Define environment variable OPERA_KEEP_BLOCKED_PLUGIN to keep blocked plug-ins.
opera: Plug-in 29012 is not responding. It will be closed.
opera: Define environment variable OPERA_KEEP_BLOCKED_PLUGIN to keep blocked plug-ins.
opera: Plug-in 29064 is not responding. It will be closed.
opera: Define environment variable OPERA_KEEP_BLOCKED_PLUGIN to keep blocked plug-ins.



So where is Opera picking up libflashplayer.so? Simply because it is finding
it in /opt/netsape/plugins? If I delete that file what is going to break (Firefox?)?

One anomaly I have noted is that opera:plugins shows two complete sets for Adobe 8.0,
with different paths in each set.

Code:

Adobe Reader 8.0application/vnd.fdf   fdf
application/vnd.adobe.xfdf   xfdf
application/pdf   pdf
application/vnd.adobe.xdp+xml   xdp
application/vnd.adobe.xfd+xml   xfd
/opt/netscape/plugins/nppdf.so

Adobe Reader 8.0application/vnd.fdf   fdf
application/vnd.adobe.xfdf   xfdf
application/pdf   pdf
application/vnd.adobe.xdp+xml   xdp
application/vnd.adobe.xfd+xml   xfd
/opt/Adobe/Reader8/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so


Suggestions?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi.

Quote:
Where do you find 'Extras' in Opera 9.51?


It's right in the Main Menu right beside "Widgets". The menu option
right before "Help".

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bloedie wrote:
Hi.

Quote:
Where do you find 'Extras' in Opera 9.51?


It's right in the Main Menu right beside "Widgets". The menu option
right before "Help".

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I'm looking at mine right now and this is how it reads:

"File Edit View Bookmarks Widgets Feeds Mail Chat Tools Window Help"

Code:
Version information
Version
9.51
Build
2061
Platform
Linux
System
x86_64, 2.6.18-028stab053
Qt library
3.3.8
Java
No Java Runtime Environment installed
Browser identification

Opera/9.51 (X11; Linux x86_64; U; en)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi.

That's strange.
Have a look where to set the prefences. There you'll find the
part and then click on the tab "advanced".

<CTRL>+>F12> should open this setup menu also.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gmtongar wrote:

Sorry for this slow reply, I greatly appreciate the help I can get, just ran into heavy complications issuing a emerge --update --deep --newuse world, which seriously put a bad spell on my system ...


opera uses quite a lot of small files, just like emerge... so if emerge goes slow and opera as well... i'd hit latencytop (you need to build in the kernel latencytop module and than emerge latencytop). or just look if you have high iowait via htop.

It seems as well that your plugins are running wild. Check if there are some plugins that are in your path twice.


ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
set a java re and this problem will case to exist.
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