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How many overlays are you using, excluding any personal overlays? (layman -l) |
0 (Just the portage tree) |
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41% |
[ 41 ] |
1 |
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12% |
[ 12 ] |
2 |
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16% |
[ 16 ] |
3 |
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9% |
[ 9 ] |
4 |
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7% |
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5 |
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3% |
[ 3 ] |
6 |
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4% |
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7 or more |
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8% |
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Total Votes : 100 |
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node_one Apprentice
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: How many pub. overlays added? /What's in your pers. overlay? |
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I searched and I did not find a previous poll about this. Anyway, I am curious what the results will be. I just want to compare my usage with everyone else's.
EDIT: Just to clarify the question slightly, If you copy ebuilds from other overlays into your own personal overlay to use, I think that is a different aspect of overlay usage. In that case, exclude those overlays from your count. It may be interesting to run a poll with that question as well.
EDIT: Title change, again. Poll ends in 6 months, but I cannot fit that in the title.
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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Well - For me it depends on the system. I maintain 2 Gentoo Servers and my personal Workstation.
While the Servers are clean - no overlays installed - I have pulled in 4 overlays on my workstation. But I am not sure which of those I really use.
- sunrise overlay: There are various small packages I need
- enlightenmant overlay: for testinstalling enlightenment 17 - but I don't really use it
- zen-overlay: needed for some (zen-)kernel testing, but I stick with gentoo sources for the time being
- desktop-effects: I cannot remember why it is installed - possibly because I intended to test compiz
I had kdesvn-portage installed for a few days to test kde-4.1, but I cannot use it ATM, as I still need some packages, that rely on qt-4.3, rather on qt-4.4 - and I am not that unpatient.
I voted 4, although it might be a bit high...
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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I use 3 at the moment: berkano, kdesvn-portage and sunrise. _________________ "Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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After having the second inconsitency in dependencies between 2 overlays I decided to use just the ebuilds needed in my private overlay. So you could say I use 1 overlay or 8 overlays, depending on the point of view.
Maybe this makes it clear why I am not a fan of overlays. ![Rolling Eyes :roll:](images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif) _________________ Video Encoding scripts collection | Project page |
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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I selected one, because really there's only one that I use full time, although 1.3 would probably be about right. About every three to six weeks I pull in an overlay to try something I think I need, but without fail I've either found a better solution within portage repo or decided it just wasn't so great an application period. |
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Just kdesvn-portage here. _________________ It really is of importance, not only what men do, but also what manner of men they are that do it.
Among the works of man... the first importance surely is man himself.
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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I will use it in a near futur, but I'm not friendly with this parallel portage tree ![Razz :P](images/smiles/icon_razz.gif) |
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Giving a number is really hard. I think most people want just a few ebuilds from some overlays, and so I guess, for many people it actually does not make sense to pull in entire overlays (of course, there are some exceptions like kde for which a whole overlay is really reasonable). Usually, I just copy those few ebuilds which I want into my personal overlays and then erase the rest of the overlay; so I guess the correct number should be 0.
It would be nice if there would be a more standardized way to fetch/update just a single package from some overlay. (For some overlays there is some web-interface, for others not; and of course also a web interface is not really a standardized solution.) |
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | ls -l /etc/paludis/repositories/
total 16
-rw-r----- 1 root root 311 2008-01-14 23:32 arcon.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 289 2007-10-19 14:45 berkano.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 310 2008-01-27 23:54 desktop-effects.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 401 2007-12-08 01:25 desktopevolution.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 311 2008-02-14 01:55 enlightenment.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 378 2007-10-19 14:45 experimental_overlay.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 290 2008-02-14 01:51 gentoo-de.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 300 2008-02-14 01:36 gentooscience.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 304 2007-10-19 14:45 gentopia.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 344 2008-02-09 14:52 gnome.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 374 2008-06-23 12:50 kdesvn.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 381 2008-06-23 12:49 kdesvn-portage.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 317 2007-10-19 14:45 misc_overlay.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 302 2008-04-19 20:24 mozilla.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 356 2008-02-14 01:49 novell.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 435 2007-10-19 14:45 paludis-extras.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 309 2007-12-31 12:42 pinot.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 366 2008-04-05 16:04 qt44.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 289 2007-10-19 14:45 rmh3093.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 383 2007-10-19 14:45 sabayon.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 304 2007-10-19 14:45 sunrise.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 313 2008-05-17 11:46 virtualbox.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 298 2008-02-14 01:52 vmware.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 293 2007-12-21 11:59 xeffects.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 283 2008-02-14 15:28 xwing.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 288 2007-10-19 14:45 ycarus.conf |
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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fangorn wrote: | After having the second inconsitency in dependencies between 2 overlays I decided to use just the ebuilds needed in my private overlay. |
I have experienced some of this as well.
kernelOfTruth wrote: | ls -l /etc/paludis/repositories/
total 16
-rw-r----- 1 root root 311 2008-01-14 23:32 arcon.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root root 289 2007-10-19 14:45 berkano.conf
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Oh my. I am impressed. How are you able to handle it? Maybe I should look into how Paludis works.
P.S. Please, lets not get into "this package manager, that package manager" type of discussion. There are enough posts covering that. |
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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right now i just use sunrise (though i mostly just use the main portage tree) _________________ MadGizmo.com is awesome. |
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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Just my local overlay:
Code: | /home/daffy $ lf -R /usr/local/portage/
/usr/local/portage/:
media-gfx/ media-video/
/usr/local/portage/media-gfx:
gqview/
/usr/local/portage/media-gfx/gqview:
Manifest files/ gqview-2.0.4.ebuild
/usr/local/portage/media-gfx/gqview/files:
gqview-2.0.4-remember-divider-positions.patch
/usr/local/portage/media-video:
tovid/
/usr/local/portage/media-video/tovid:
Manifest files/ tovid-9999.ebuild
/usr/local/portage/media-video/tovid/files:
tovid-configure.patch tovid-configure.patch.backup
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I use my local overlay and the desktop-effects overlay for some eye candy. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Is there a way to check what overlays are actually in use? layman reports 7 overlays, but I suspect at least one of those are not used, since whatever package I wanted from it was found to not be what I wanted after all. _________________
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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I only use one overlay (desktop-effects) for compiz because the versions in portage are too old. _________________ Linux User #422770 |
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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I only use one overlay, enlightenment, since e17 is my Desktop shell (as they call it) of choice, on both my pc and laptop |
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:39 am Post subject: |
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I want to apologize to the people using 7 or more overlays for not making the poll go to 20 or something. I did not mean to cluster all of you together. |
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: What's in your personal overlay? |
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I, for one, keep a personal /usr/local/portage around, in case I need to modify an ebuild, download one from bgo, etc.
This doesn't count layman overlays - only what you keep yourself.
I have:
games-arcade/ppracer, with patch for more joystick buttons support (8->19, to support my sixaxis)
games-arcade/supertux, the 0.3.1 slotted ebuild
media-gfx/f4l, not that it works.
net-mail/mailutils, I forget why...
app-cdr/k9copy, with the new-ffmpeg patch
x11-base/xorg-server, version 1.4.2, never got it to compile. On the beta of the new one now.
net-nds/openldap, forget why...
games-sports/xmoto, version 0.4.1 from a while ago.
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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https://trac.allenjb.me.uk/overlay - I used to manage it manually, but since I've put it in subversion, it's become much easier to manage because I can safely delete the packages I'm not interested in or have no use for any more and still be able to recover them if I want. It's also easier to share it between all my machines (2 laptops, 2 pc's (1 of which is a xen host), 2(+) xen guests and a xen server). Making it public was a logical small step, since I was publishing many of the packages on my website anyway (I do push the ones I believe are suitable into bugzilla, but many of them are custom patches or development branches which would never make it into the main tree). |
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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Bazaar overlay, local, with ebuilds from/for Bugzilla. Most are maintainer-wanted/needed. |
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Way, way to much stuff: Code: | # find /mnt/gentoo.overlay/ -name "*.ebuild" | wc -l
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Code: | # find /mnt/gentoo.overlay/ -maxdepth 2 -mindepth 2 -type d | wc -l
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Most stuff is own made ebuilds not found in Portage or any overlay.
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junk wrote: | warzone2100-9999.ebuild
foldingathome-6.0.2.ebuild
e_modules-tiling-9999.ebuild
mozilla-launcher-6.9.ebuild (empty ebuild for "providing")
physfs-1.0.0.ebuild |
steveb wrote: | Way, way to much stuff |
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merged into an existing thread. _________________
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