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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:18 pm    Post subject: [SOLVED] Sysrescue cd Reply with quote

Does anyone know of a good howto to install gentoo from sysrescue cd. All I have found is this:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml

I am not using Knoppix to install and I need to use an alternative method because my hardware is too new for the minimal cd kernel ( I'm pretty sure it's too new for Knoppix as well, although I never did attempt it ). I booted from the sysrescue cd and it told me not to use /mnt. Unfortunately I know of no other method. I have no problem ssh'ing into this system, but with the warning of not using /mnt I do not know how else to install and mount the drives ( etc ).


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The instructions are the same as for using the Gentoo minimal CD.

ps. The instructions tell you to mount things on /mnt/gentoo not directly on /mnt

pps. SystemRescueCD would crash if you mounted something directly on /mnt , but the same thing would happen with a regular Gentoo CD.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok this board SUCKS ( Asus M2N-MX SE Plus ) for installing Gentoo on. Is there anyone who has successfully installed Gentoo on this board or a similar board??? Possibly any wiki's on this topic? I've been using a stage 1 tarball. Would a stage 3 possibly help this thing to boot?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The stage1 tarballs are NOT supported anymore. The better method (in my opinion) is to use the stage3, and then after your base installation, do the following:

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emerge -ave system && emerge -ave world


That will rebuild EVERYTHING using your customisations. It will essentially be the same as a stage1 installation without all the headaches.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you're saying that I should do a complete install and once I complete grub I do emerge -ave system && emerge -ave world?

One other question, would you recommend vanilla or gentoo-sources?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would recommend doing a complete stage3 installation, and getting to the point where you reboot, remove the tarballs, and add your user (the last chapter of the handbook). Then issue those two commands and it will rebuild your entire system using your gcc options, and your customisations listed in /etc/make.conf.

PERSONALLY, I like gentoo-sources.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See that's where the problem lies, I can not boot after I complete the installation....
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't boot after doing a stage3 installation? Are you getting particular errors? That way you won't have to build the toolchain and such. Most importantly, the error message(s) you are receiving will help us diagnose the problem.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is my headache:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=5215476#5215476
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kalos wrote:
The stage1 tarballs are NOT supported anymore. The better method (in my opinion) is to use the stage3, and then after your base installation, do the following:

Code:

emerge -ave system && emerge -ave world


That will rebuild EVERYTHING using your customisations. It will essentially be the same as a stage1 installation without all the headaches.


In fact, but to be sure that GCC has compiled the toolchain properly, you need to run this :

Code:

emerge -ve system && && emerge -ev system && emerge -ave world
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@FrankRizz0
Ahhh, I did have a similar problem with an older computer using an ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe. The way that I got around it was to completely disable ACPI. You will have a minor annoyance when shutting down (you'll actually have to hit the power button instead of it automatically cutting power at the end of the shutdown process), but it was the only way I got the machine to boot.

@d2,
Why is the second emerge -ave system necessary? I'm not doubting you; I'm just curious because I've never heard that mentioned before.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do I disable ACPI???
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kalos wrote:
@d2,
Why is the second emerge -ave system necessary? I'm not doubting you; I'm just curious because I've never heard that mentioned before.


Ok, that's gonna hurt :P

I saw on a famous thread that the when you change your CFLAG or something inside that impact the toolchain, the first time that the emerge -e system run, he will compile with the old GCC but with the new CFLAGs the toolchain.

And when you will rerun emerge -e system, now your GCC has your new CFLAG and he is optimised with theses new feature and he will compile properly and cleanly the new toolchain.

So, to have a clean toolchain, you need to run twice emerge -e system.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easiest way that I did it was to (before the reboot after installation) pass the argument to the kernel in /boot/grub/grub.conf:

Code:

title Gentoo Linux 2.6.24-r5
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.24-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/sda3 acpi=off


However, if your processor has hyperthreading available, you might want to try acpi=ht
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

d2_racing wrote:
kalos wrote:
@d2,
Why is the second emerge -ave system necessary? I'm not doubting you; I'm just curious because I've never heard that mentioned before.


Ok, that's gonna hurt :P

I saw on a famous thread that the when you change your CFLAG or something inside that impact the toolchain, the first time that the emerge -e system run, he will compile with the old GCC but with the new CFLAGs the toolchain.

And when you will rerun emerge -e system, now your GCC has your new CFLAG and he is optimised with theses new feature and he will compile properly and cleanly the new toolchain.

So, to have a clean toolchain, you need to run twice emerge -e system.


Thanks for letting me know. I've not done that ever, but I don't really think it will make that huge of an impact on my system. ;)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The puriste tell you that you will end up with a fully optimised system.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He or she may, but that's a whole lot of recompiling for what will probably be unnoticeable gains on this system. :razz: Anyway, I didn't mean to hijack FrankRizz0's thread, so let's get back to that issue. :)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL.....hijack away, this is a discussion forum no?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Tis. :) How is your issue coming along? Are you still having trouble getting the system to boot after installation?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've decided to start the install over again, having an issue at the moment with sys-apps/file-4.26 which I am in the process of fixing right now in a different thread. Once that is finished I can complete emerge -ave system && emerge -ave world. I will keep this thread updated, thanks for the help!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worked kalos, thanks mate!!!
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