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mansniks
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:06 am    Post subject: nVidia and Radeon -- better support for linux? Reply with quote

Share your experiences about using those two! Problems? Card's feature support?
Don't forget to mention the driver...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an X300 and am using the open source drivers. Everything is faster now with a compositing manager running than it was back when I first got the laptop almost 3 years ago without a compositing manager running. 3d support is decent, but not great. 2d support is excellent and very snappy. EXA works well.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there will be very good 3D-enabled drivers for Radeon HD series GPUs, although this will take a few more months. meanwhile, the proprietary drivers for AMD GPUs are "good enough" already.

however, nvidia's proprietary drivers are still better than amd's. but then again, there is simply no momentum in their open source drivers.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

>there will be very good 3D-enabled drivers for Radeon HD series GPUs, although this will take a few more months.
Opensource? What is the reason to assume them to be "very good"?

My question is quite simple now: should I worry about if I buy MOBO with SLI or CrossFire support (just in case..)?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tulcod wrote:
there will be very good 3D-enabled drivers for Radeon HD series GPUs, although this will take a few more months.

Opensource 3D support is already available and working well for r5xx series RadeonHD, and r6xx support should be arriving soon.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always been really satisfied with nvidia cards and nvidia's drivers. I am using nvidia driver 177.67. my driver is, according to nvidia, a beta driver, but I think all CUDA enabled drivers are beta drivers. nvidia x-server setup utility is very strait forward and nice for adjustments as well. all in all a great experience. The nvidia license taints the kernel gpl-ness but I couldn't care less.
this works only with an x86 or x86_64 arch of course.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radeon's hardware numbers are confusing.

like here for git:

BEGIN_DEVICE_LIST
* RV505: Radeon X1550, X1550 64bit
* RV515: Radeon X1300, X1550, X1600; FireGL V3300, V3350
* RV516: Radeon X1300, X1550, X1550 64-bit, X1600; FireMV 2250
* R520: Radeon X1800; FireGL V5300, V7200, V7300, V7350
* RV530: Radeon X1300 XT, X1600, X1600 Pro, X1650; FireGL V3400, V5200
* RV535: Radeon X1300, X1650
* RV550: Radeon X2300 HD
* RV560: Radeon X1650
* RV570: Radeon X1950, X1950 GT; FireGL V7400
* R580: Radeon X1900, X1950; AMD Stream Processor
* R600: Radeon HD 2900 GT/Pro/XT; FireGL V7600/V8600/V8650
* RV610: Radeon HD 2350, HD 2400 Pro/XT, HD 2400 Pro AGP; FireGL V4000
* RV620: Radeon HD 3450, HD 3470
* RV630: Radeon HD 2600 LE/Pro/XT, HD 2600 Pro/XT AGP; Gemini RV630;
FireGL V3600/V5600
* RV635: Radeon HD 3650, HD 3670
* RV670: Radeon HD 3690, 3850, HD 3870, FireGL V7700, FireStream 9170
* R680: Radeon HD 3870 X2
* M52: Mobility Radeon X1300
* M54: Mobility Radeon X1400; M54-GL
* M56: Mobility Radeon X1600; Mobility FireGL V5200
* M58: Mobility Radeon X1800, X1800 XT; Mobility FireGL V7100, V7200
* M62: Mobility Radeon X1350
* M64: Mobility Radeon X1450, X2300
* M66: Mobility Radeon X1700, X1700 XT; FireGL V5250
* M68: Mobility Radeon X1900
* M71: Mobility Radeon HD 2300
* M72: Mobility Radeon HD 2400; Radeon E2400
* M74: Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT
* M76: Mobility Radeon HD 2600;
(Gemini ATI) Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT
* M82: Mobility Radeon HD 3400
* M86: Mobility Radeon HD 3650, HD 3670, Mobility FireGL V5700
* M88: Mobility Radeon HD 3850, HD 3850 X2, HD 3870, HD3870 X2
* RS600: Radeon Xpress 1200, Xpress 1250
* RS690: Radeon X1200, X1250, X1270
* RS740: RS740, RS740M
* RS780: Radeon HD 3100/3200/3300 Series
* RV770: Radeon HD 4800 Series; Everest, K2, Denali ATI FirePro
END_DEVICE_LIST

Obviously there is chip series nr and card nr...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nvidia is the way to go.
I got compiz working easily with nvidia while it was an unstable nightmare with ATI.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then I do this: buy some geforce now and, if that is too little, radeon with crossfire some months ahead! (in a hope for good, opensource drivers)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still having questions: is it possible to manually turn off video card (geforce or radeon), so it doesn't suck power for nothing?
We are talking about some 50W idle....
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