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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:32 am Post subject: Fglrx & radeon 3600 |
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Hello! Could you explain why I get only 400 fps in glxgears
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Code: | localhost ~ # glxinfo | grep direct
direct rendering: Yes
localhost ~ # glxinfo | grep -i OpenGL
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 3600 Series
OpenGL version string: 2.1.8087 Release
OpenGL extensions:
localhost ~ # eselect opengl list
Available OpenGL implementations:
[1] ati *
[2] xorg-x11
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And Code: | localhost ~ # glxgears
1900 frames in 5.0 seconds = 379.006 FPS
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I am using Kernel 2.6.27 X.org 7.2 and latest fgrlx from portage |
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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I've experienced the same since upgrading to Catalyst 8.10, everything else doesn't feel slower though. |
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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no, but please ignore glxgears. Its results or more or less useless. Only under very special circumstances its results are usefull. Checking your cards speed is not. Try stuff like xrenderbench, gtkperf, phoronix test suit or some 3d game. _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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fgl_glxgears provides same poor results.... |
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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ssmaxss wrote: | fgl_glxgears provides same poor results.... |
and fgl_glxgears is as useless as glxgears. _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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I know the phonorix crowd hate *glxgears and whatnot, but it is useful, and in this case 400fps on glxgears is appallingly low, I'm sure even mesa could match/exceed it (depending on the cpu). _________________
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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glxgears is more influenced by the kernel frequency governor than the card.
And not only the phornonix crowd hates glxgears - everybody does. Nvidia guys, X guys, AMD guys, Intel guys, ... everybody. _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | glxgears is more influenced by the kernel frequency governor than the card. |
governor "performance" - 300FPS
governor "ondemand" - 400FPS
Strange things.... |
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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are you sure that not some background stuff is fucking around with you? like beagle or kerry or whatever indexing tool is running? or some stupid antivirus? are you using desktop effects?
energyman@energy film2 % glxgears
7056 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1408.320 FPS
8579 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1713.635 FPS
energyman@energy film2 % glxgears
23669 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4733.793 FPS
26007 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5201.291 FPS
first desktop effects enabled, second, desktop effects disabled. _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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I am using KDE 4.1.2 from portage with desktop effects disabled. My xorg.conf if it matters:
Code: | Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/corefonts"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/fromwindows"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/OTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "dbe"
Load "GLcore"
Load "glx"
Load "dri"
Load "record"
Load "extmod"
Load "xtrap"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbLayout" "us,ru"
Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0"
Option "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
Option "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
Option "DPMS" "true"
EndSection
Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "ShadowFB" # [<bool>]
#Option "DefaultRefresh" # [<bool>]
#Option "ModeSetClearScreen" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "radeonhd"
VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
BoardName "Unknown Board"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]-0"
Driver "fglrx"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0"
Device "aticonfig-Device[0]-0"
Monitor "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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looks good. I would try some real 3d stuff before panicing. _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Nexuiz works fine at 1280x1024 with normal effects, but it is not blazing fast at ultra effects turned on. Is it ok? |
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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ssmaxss wrote: | Nexuiz works fine at 1280x1024 with normal effects, but it is not blazing fast at ultra effects turned on. Is it ok? |
with a 3600? I would say so. _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Yes with 3600. Ok I won't worry any more and hope radeon or radeonhd will eventually produce 3d acceleration without such strange things. |
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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back with my nvidia 8600GT ultra details and 'maximum beauty' were too much for it so if you have playable framerates I would say that everything is fine.
And about rhd:
http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13685
scroll down to bridgeman's posting - I'd say the future looks very bright. _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for your help and link to very intersting post! Hope we will se working OSS 3d soon. And I have another problem: s2ram doesn't work with my configuration
s2ram -f and s2ram -f -p works but system freezes several minutes after resuming.
s2ram -f -p -s and s2ram -f -p -m fails with segmentation fault.
My motherboard is GA-P31-DS3L if it matters. |
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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I can't help you with that. s2ram and s2disk never worked for me. _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Hm. Just noticed:
Code: | localhost ~ # glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string:[b] SGI[/b]
server glx version string: 1.2
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OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 3600 Series
OpenGL version string: 2.1.8087 Release
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Is it normal? |
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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yes
you can also try fglrxinfo:
fglrxinfo
display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 3870
OpenGL version string: 2.1.8087 Release
glxinfo:
glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap,
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_OML_swap_method,
GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.4
client glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context,
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory,
GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method,
GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control,
GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig,
GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group,
GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
GLX version: 1.2
GLX extensions:
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context,
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_OML_swap_method,
GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 3870
OpenGL version string: 2.1.8087 Release
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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anyone using the open radeonhd driver? if yes what card do you have? _________________ Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein |
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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radeonhd doesn't support 3D and other accelerations yet. AFAIK it supports r5xx and r6xx series of radeon chips. |
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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there are some very good news regarding radeonhd, but don't hold your breath - it looks like a nice christmas present.
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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It seems to me that I have found root of this problem. It is PowerPlay. Flgrx thinks that 100mhz per gpu core is enogh for glxgears and thus produces so poor results. But if I start several glxgears powerplay raises core clock and fps jumps to 1000-1500fps. Now I have a question: how can I disable PowerPlay on fglrx? |
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:37 am Post subject: |
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there are powerplay options with aticonfig - the command line tool.
POWERplay Options:
Following options will not change the config file.
These options will be effective immediately. Other options on
the same command line will be ignored.
--lsp, --list-powerstates
Print information about power states and exit.
--set-powerstate=NUMBER
Set a power state listed by --list-powerstates.
--auto-powerstates=on|off
Enable/disable automatic transitions between battery and performance
modes on AC/DC transitions. This automatic mode is enabled by default,
and may compete with atieventsd style power management.
there are a lot more sweet options to play with! _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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The problem is that for me:
Code: | localhost ~ # aticonfig --lsp
core/mem [flags]
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And
Code: | localhost ~ # aticonfig --auto-powerstates=off
aticonfig: unrecognized option `--auto-powerstates=off'
aticonfig: parsing the command-line failed.
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I now want to use VMWare 3D acceleration feature and it is very slow. Warcraft 3 even at lowest settings is not usable insdie virtual machine with 3d acceleration enabled.
Update: Just noticed new fglrx in portage. Will try with it.
Update2: someone commited ebuild with new version and same source file. |
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