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mansniks
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 Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: Firefox wants wren.gentoo.org to load -- what is going on?! |
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The thing is this: firefox wont start, unless I plug in network cable and let it go to wren.gentoo.org for whatever reason (it stays blank, though)!
Explanation necessary!
To be honest, I doubt, if firefox is really spyware free for some time...
Is konqueror the same in KDE4? My personal experience show, it is somewhat more unstable and has no design as good (in 3.5). |
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mansniks
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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No joke,
iptables -A OUTPUT -d wren.gentoo.org -j DROP
And firefox wont pop up, just it will wait like any other spyware! |
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notHerbert
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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I think that www.gentoo.org is an alias for the webserver wren.gentoo.org
Either address will bring you to the same place
So if you block wren.gentoo.org, you block www.gentoo.org
If your Firefox start page is www.gentoo.org it hangs .............................  |
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mansniks
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Come on,
1. my previous versions for fox were loading ok w/o LAN
2. that fox is not going to www.gentoo.org by default, it stays blank like I wrote! |
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d2_racing
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Hi, what version of Firefox are you using ?
Right now I'm using 3.0.3 and everything that I start Firefox for the first time, it doesn't load my defaut page, it's a blank page and then I hit again reload and it start to the right place.
Maybe it's a bug or something else.
You should delete your .Mozilla inside your /home. |
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depontius
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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I've noticed similar behavior, but haven't really tracked it down.
When I start firefox on a networkless machine, it comes right up.
When I start firefox on a fully networked machine, it comes right up.
When I'm having network issues and start firefox, it has an extraordinarily long timeout, then comes up.
It seems to me that firefox wants to phone home. On a standalone machine it knows that won't work, so it doesn't even try. On the fully networked machine, it succeeds. On the broken network machine, it thinks it can try, then has a long timeout as it fails to connect.
There's something going on, and I really should have been pushing this topic before.
The Mozilla foundation should explain any phone-home behavior, and tell us why it's not a problem.
Of course if it's phoning a gentoo page, that smacks of a gentoo patch, and gentoo should be telling us the same thing.
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[Lx]-=Mystify=-
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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hi...
I just recognized the same, and wanted to start a thread about it 
I have the problem since I updated to FF3. currently I'm running www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.0.3 and it's really annoying.
It's also if I have a non reachable proxy defined. it tries to contact the proxy server without timeout, and the window does not appear, taking up forever (wireshark is your friend )
it happens every time I start firefox, and when I open a new window.
even when FF does not load any page (no, www.gentoo.org is _not_ my start page).
thats really pissing me off, I use FF within windows on several maschines, and it works like a charme. what s... has been patched into FF3 under gentoo????
greetz mystify
ps: oh and by the way: wren.gentoo.org and loon.gentoo.org are the names of the 2 webservers serving www.gentoo.org
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[Lx]-=Mystify=-
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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hi hi...
after digging some source, I found that gentoo creates a file called /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/defaults/preferences/all-gentoo.js with the following content: | Code: |
# > cat all-gentoo.js
pref("app.update.enabled", false);
pref("app.update.autoInstallEnabled", false);
pref("browser.display.use_system_colors", true);
pref("browser.link.open_external", 3);
pref("general.smoothScroll", true);
pref("general.autoScroll", false);
pref("browser.tabs.tabMinWidth", 15);
pref("browser.backspace_action", 0);
pref("browser.urlbar.hideGoButton", true);
pref("accessibility.typeaheadfind", true);
pref("browser.startup.homepage", "http://www.gentoo.org/");
pref("browser.shell.checkDefaultBrowser", false);
pref("browser.EULA.override", true);
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I found an easy temporal fix:
go to 'edit' -> 'preferences' -> 'main' and check that the field 'home page' is _not_ empty.
You can use about:blank if you want a blank page to be load. That speed things up heavily, and
my wireshark is showing no more connection attempts to www.gentoo.org.
Seems like a bug in FF3, that he loads the 'default page' which is defined in the config blocking, so that the windows will not be opened if you can't get the website (or the proxy is not respondig).
greetz
mystify
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mansniks
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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Well, then thing is more or less resolved, but someone should fail a bug anyway.
Just I've been too busy... |
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[Lx]-=Mystify=-
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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yup the same for me...
has anyone had the time to file a bug, or has it right now?
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d2_racing
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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I don't have this problem all the time, but I saw that xulrunner was updated last week and I use Firefox 3.0.4 right now.
Maybe the bug is gone. |
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