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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:14 am    Post subject: this is my first post please be kind to me Reply with quote

hi all im not what you could exactley call a linux noob but i am new to gentoo, ive tried installing gentoo a bunch of times but i couldent seem to get it right so i always reverted back to debian.

I have heard that gentoo is much more stable and is easyer to update then debian, so i thought i would give it another shot, i just have a few questions before i begin the download of the iso.


    how easy would it be to install the propiatry drivers for my Nvidia GPU?
    how easy would it be to configure flux box?
    how easy would it be to install and configure compiz fusion for use with kde?


i dont have a live internet conection at my flat and i have always had issues with the live installer dvd any ideas on what i can do to get gentoo installed on my system?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: this is my first post please be kind to me Reply with quote

nightsider wrote:

how easy would it be to install the propiatry drivers for my Nvidia GPU?


Hi, to install the Nvidia driver, you have to run this command :

Code:

# emerge -av x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers media-video/nvidia-settings


And after that, to configure your X server, you need to run this :

Code:

# nvidia-xconfig


So, it's very simple as you can see :P

Finally, to install Fluxbox, you need to read this guide : http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/fluxbox-config.xml
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[edit]Beaten to it[/edit]
Hi :)

You really should put a better name on the topic.

[edit]Do what d2_racing said[/edit]
>how easy would it be to install the propiatry drivers for my Nvidia GPU?
the commands
Code:
emerge nvidia-drivers
eselect opengl set nvidia

will install the drivers and set rendering to use it for you, (re)start X and you should be good.

>how easy would it be to configure flux box?
I haven't used flux box, but of you by configuring mean installing, then it probably simple.
For KDE that I use, all that is needed is
Code:
emerge kdebase-startkde

and then
Code:
startx

if to start manually.
There is a fluxbox guide here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/?catid=desktop

>how easy would it be to install and configure compiz fusion for use with kde?
Don't know.

>i dont have a live internet conection at my flat and i have always had issues with the live installer dvd any ideas on what i can do to get gentoo installed on my system?
I never liked anything but the minimal installation. Download your stage tarball and portage snapshot to usb-stick and run minimal install IMO.
Networkless install instructions: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2008.0/index.xml

Welcome to Gentoo :)
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: this is my first post please be kind to me Reply with quote

nightsider wrote:

how easy would it be to install and configure compiz fusion for use with kde?


Quite easy! Just install kde and go to the system settings ==> Desktop ==> Enable Desktop Effects. At least that is the way it works with kde4 but i guess its the same for kde3.

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde-config.xml
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:58 pm    Post subject: Re: this is my first post please be kind to me Reply with quote

Nephilim666 wrote:
nightsider wrote:

how easy would it be to install and configure compiz fusion for use with kde?


Quite easy! Just install kde and go to the system settings ==> Desktop ==> Enable Desktop Effects. At least that is the way it works with kde4 but i guess its the same for kde3.


No, it's not.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:58 pm    Post subject: Re: this is my first post please be kind to me Reply with quote

Nephilim666 wrote:
nightsider wrote:

how easy would it be to install and configure compiz fusion for use with kde?

Quite easy! Just install kde and go to the system settings ==> Desktop ==> Enable Desktop Effects. At least that is the way it works with kde4 but i guess its the same for kde3.
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde-config.xml

I could be wrong, I have been before and will be again, but unfortunately I think I would have to disagree. As far as I know, the version of KWin that comes with KDE3 IIRC doesn't support desktop effects. (It wasn't all the rage when work on KDE3 was begun I guess.) I think it is somewhat more complicated with KDE3. I quickly checked out my KDE3 control panel and didn't see anything about desktop effects.
If you wanna use KDE4 however, I'm sure it's just as easy as Nephilim says.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Letharion wrote:
[edit]Beaten to it[/edit]
Hi :)

>i dont have a live internet conection at my flat and i have always had issues with the live installer dvd any ideas on what i can do to get gentoo installed on my system?
I never liked anything but the minimal installation. Download your stage tarball and portage snapshot to usb-stick and run minimal install IMO.
Networkless install instructions: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2008.0/index.xml

Welcome to Gentoo :)


the networkless install instructions tell me to use a live cd is that what you meant and also what did you mean by downloading the stage tarball and protage snapshot to usb flash drive if thier allready on the live cd?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Letharion wrote:
[edit]Beaten to it[/edit]
Hi

>i dont have a live internet conection at my flat and i have always had issues with the live installer dvd any ideas on what i can do to get gentoo installed on my system?
I never liked anything but the minimal installation. Download your stage tarball and portage snapshot to usb-stick and run minimal install IMO.
Networkless install instructions: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2008.0/index.xml

Welcome to Gentoo


the networkless install instructions tell me to use a live cd is that what you meant and also what did you mean by downloading the stage tarball and protage snapshot to usb flash drive if thier allready on the live cd?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: this is my first post please be kind to me Reply with quote

nightsider wrote:
I have heard that gentoo is much more stable and is easyer to update then debian

I don't think I'd agree with either claim. Install Gentoo if you want fine control over what goes into your system (see: USE flags from the Gentoo Handbook). Updates can be problematic here, as well as time-consuming -- Gentoo is source based after all.

Debian stable has a reputation for being solid, but not very current. Gentoo stable is a mixed bag of current and not-so-current (cf. OpenOffice and Firefox).
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nightsider_2008 wrote:
Letharion wrote:
[edit]Beaten to it[/edit]
Hi :)

>i dont have a live internet conection at my flat and i have always had issues with the live installer dvd any ideas on what i can do to get gentoo installed on my system?
I never liked anything but the minimal installation. Download your stage tarball and portage snapshot to usb-stick and run minimal install IMO.
Networkless install instructions: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2008.0/index.xml

Welcome to Gentoo :)


the networkless install instructions tell me to use a live cd is that what you meant and also what did you mean by downloading the stage tarball and protage snapshot to usb flash drive if thier allready on the live cd?


To be completely honest, I've never even read the networkless intructions, I was just pointing you to various resources.
I do all my installs "minimal" style. These days, I often do them from an already running linux install.
I would personally recommend getting the disc with the minimal install. Then you would need to download the stage and snapshot.
If you do that, and ask further questions, I'd be glad to help you walk through it.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Letharion wrote:
nightsider_2008 wrote:
Letharion wrote:
[edit]Beaten to it[/edit]
Hi :)

>i dont have a live internet conection at my flat and i have always had issues with the live installer dvd any ideas on what i can do to get gentoo installed on my system?
I never liked anything but the minimal installation. Download your stage tarball and portage snapshot to usb-stick and run minimal install IMO.
Networkless install instructions: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2008.0/index.xml

Welcome to Gentoo :)


the networkless install instructions tell me to use a live cd is that what you meant and also what did you mean by downloading the stage tarball and protage snapshot to usb flash drive if thier allready on the live cd?


To be completely honest, I've never even read the networkless intructions, I was just pointing you to various resources.
I do all my installs "minimal" style. These days, I often do them from an already running linux install.
I would personally recommend getting the disc with the minimal install. Then you would need to download the stage and snapshot.
If you do that, and ask further questions, I'd be glad to help you walk through it.


ive downloaded the minimal install iso where do i download the stage and snapshot from?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nightsider wrote:
ive downloaded the minimal install iso where do i download the stage and snapshot from?


Hi, so I think that maybe you will prefer to have firefox to download them.

Maybe you should download the SystemRescueCD LiveCD here : http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=85811&package_id=88964

With that you will have a X environnement and you will be able to use Mozilla Firefox.

For the Stages and Snapshot, you can download them from funtoo.org :

For a 32 bits installation use this one : http://www.funtoo.org/linux/i686/funtoo-i686-2008.12.07/

For a 64 bits installation use this one : http://www.funtoo.org/linux/amd64/funtoo-amd64-2008.12.05/

And for your snapshot, you can download this one : http://www.funtoo.org/linux/snapshots/portage-2008.12.07.tar.bz2

By the way, what kind of CPU do you own ?
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