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sempsteen
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 Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: How to install KDE 4.1.2 on a fresh system |
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Hi everyone,
I've a newly installed gentoo system. I've installed X and now it is time for KDE 4.1.2. But i couldn't find a tutorial and i don't want to use overlay method. What are the steps i should take? Can you help me please?
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naelq
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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hey, i'm in the same route too! after a HDD & VGA upgrade! (WD6400AAKS & HD4850 512MB just in case anyone is interested!)
will finish the X emerge & after that will start digging to get KDE4 installed.
right now, AFAIK, one should install an *updated* version of portage (not marked as stable though), then unmask KDE-stuff.. & emerge. eh?
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Etal
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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I would personally wait a day or two until the devs unmask it. I heard there were a few problems with it...
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sempsteen
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| naelq wrote: | | one should install an *updated* version of portage (not marked as stable though), then unmask KDE-stuff.. & emerge. eh? |
i'm afraid i don't know how to do them properly. could you please write here if you succeed naelq? thanks a lot. |
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sempsteen
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| i hated waiting this stuff |
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Etal
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| sempsteen wrote: | | naelq wrote: | | one should install an *updated* version of portage (not marked as stable though), then unmask KDE-stuff.. & emerge. eh? |
i'm afraid i don't know how to do them properly. could you please write here if you succeed naelq? thanks a lot. |
What version of portage do you have? If you have portage-2.2_rc11, then all you need to do is unmask the KDE packages (sorry, I'm not sure where the list is) or wait until the devs fix the last few problems (should be in a day or two).
If your portage version is portage-2.1.4.4, then you'll need to make a file /etc/portage/package.keywords and write "<=sys-apps/portage-2.2" to it. After that, you'll need to unmask and unkeyword all the KDE packages (I hope someone will tell you where you can get the lists)
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sempsteen
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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thanks for your help AM088,
i think i'm going to wait if it is worth doing. do you reckon we will have a complete guide how to install kde 4.1.2 after those fixes? |
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naelq
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| sempsteen wrote: |
i'm afraid i don't know how to do them properly. could you please write here if you succeed naelq? thanks a lot. |
sure mate, will keep you posted 
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| today i setup my web development working environment (basically LAMP) and i'm still waiting. |
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naelq
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ok, as promised! posting this message from konqueror 4.1.2 
after a fresh install (due to hardware upgrade) i did install stable xorg-server, running the vesa driver atm, i did the following:
1. upgrade portage to the latest version:
| Code: | [ebuild U ] app-admin/eselect-1.0.11-r1 [1.0.10] USE="-bash-completion -doc-vim-syntax" 150 kB
[ebuild N ] app-admin/eselect-news-20080320 6 kB
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc11 [2.1.4.4] USE="-build -doc -epydoc (-selinux)" LINGUAS="-pl" 734 kB |
2. unmask needed packages for kde-base/kdebase-startkde & kde-base/kdm :
package.unmask:
| Code: | kde-base/kdebase-startkde
kde-base/kdelibs
kde-base/kdepimlibs
kde-base/automoc
kde-base/ksplash
kde-base/kde-wallpapers
kde-base/krunner
kde-base/ksmserver
kde-base/kstartupconfig
kde-base/kstyles
kde-base/kreadconfig
kde-base/plasma-workspace
kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves
kde-base/kdebase-data
kde-base/knotify
kde-base/systemsettings
kde-base/kwin
kde-base/plasma-apps
kde-base/kcminit
kde-base/libplasma
kde-base/libkonq
x11-libs/qt-webkit
kde-base/libtaskmanager
app-misc/strigi
x11-libs/qt-opengl
kde-base/libkworkspace
dev-cpp/clucene
media-sound/phonon
x11-libs/qt-dbus
kde-base/kcontrol
kde-base/kdesu
kde-base/kdialog
kde-base/soliduiserver
kde-base/kde-menu-icons
kde-base/kdeartwork-iconthemes
kde-base/dolphin
kde-base/nepomuk
dev-libs/soprano
kde-base/solid
kde-base/ksysguard
app-office/akonadi-server
kde-base/kdm
kde-base/kcheckpass
kde-base/kdepasswd |
package.keywords:
| Code: | kde-base/kdebase-startkde ~amd64
x11-libs/qt-core ~amd64
kde-base/kdelibs ~amd64
x11-libs/qt-svg ~amd64
x11-libs/qt-gui ~amd64
kde-base/kdepimlibs ~amd64
x11-libs/qt-test ~amd64
kde-base/qimageblitz ~amd64
x11-libs/qt-script ~amd64
dev-util/cmake ~amd64
x11-libs/qt-qt3support ~amd64
kde-base/automoc ~amd64
kde-base/ksplash ~amd64
kde-base/kde-wallpapers ~amd64
kde-base/krunner ~amd64
kde-base/ksmserver ~amd64
kde-base/kstartupconfig ~amd64
kde-base/kstyles ~amd64
kde-base/kreadconfig ~amd64
kde-base/plasma-workspace ~amd64
kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves ~amd64
kde-base/kdebase-data ~amd64
kde-base/knotify ~amd64
kde-base/systemsettings ~amd64
kde-base/kwin ~amd64
kde-base/plasma-apps ~amd64
kde-base/kcminit ~amd64
kde-base/libplasma ~amd64
kde-base/libkonq ~amd64
x11-libs/qt-webkit ~amd64
kde-base/libtaskmanager ~amd64
app-misc/strigi ~amd64
x11-libs/qt-opengl ~amd64
kde-base/libkworkspace ~amd64
dev-cpp/clucene ~amd64
media-sound/phonon ~amd64
x11-libs/qt-dbus ~amd64
kde-base/kcontrol ~amd64
kde-base/kdesu ~amd64
kde-base/kdialog ~amd64
kde-base/soliduiserver ~amd64
kde-base/kde-menu-icons ~amd64
kde-base/kdeartwork-iconthemes ~amd64
kde-base/dolphin ~amd64
kde-base/nepomuk ~amd64
dev-libs/soprano ~amd64
kde-base/solid ~amd64
kde-base/ksysguard ~amd64
x11-libs/qt-sql ~amd64
app-office/akonadi-server ~amd64
kde-base/kdm ~amd64
kde-base/kcheckpass ~amd64
x11-apps/xinit ~amd64
kde-base/kdepasswd ~amd64 |
this will give you the basic KDE setup, from there you can use your imagination for the rest of the packages! hope this helps
PS, kdm for some odd reason doesn't showup, instead i get the pre-historic xdm one! will update later
nael
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sempsteen
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| Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you naelq,
I decided listening AM088's advice so I'll wait for the fixes first. Thanks for your help again. |
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Etal
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:12 am Post subject: |
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By the way, the official guide to installing KDE 4.1.2 is out, and the remaining problems seem to be conflicts between KDE 3.5 and 4.1. So if you don't have KDE 3.5, you can give it a shot
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml
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sempsteen
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I installed it by using that guide. It has finished about an hour ago and now i'm writing this message from Firefox 3. KDE 4.1.2 looks stunning! |
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wdicc
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:42 am Post subject: |
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thx the great guide.. 
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naelq
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: |
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did you use the unmask & keywords files from the testing branch? & the same for the sets, did you get it from there?
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elsenator
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:56 pm Post subject: kdm apparently not working |
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I've followed the guide to install kde 4.1.2 and everything seemed to install perfectly. I installed it on a clean system. When i "/etc/init.d/xdm start" (after setting xdm to kdm in conf.d), the screen goes black, i get the mouse cursor for about 1 second, and then i exits back to the console.
I had a look at the xorg.log and i can't see any errors in it. Also, if i login as a normal user and run "startx" it works just fine, i get the basic x window system with the 3 greenish windows and the clock.
My suspicion is therefore that it has something to do with kdm, but i'm at a loss about how to figure out what is wrong. Btw, if i set xdm to use xdm it starts up fine. I can also run "startkde" from the basic windows system(3 greenish consoles and the clock) and then kde4 sort of starts. Looks a bit weird though as it's not exactly supposed to be run that way.
Any suggestions on how to get kdm working? |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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I had a similar problem with kdebase-startkde-4.1.1 on kde 4.1.2
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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I also had the same problem (i don't remember what version i used, but it was from the kdesvn-overlay)
I looked in the kdm.log and it said something about dbus-machine.
So i did "/etc/init.d/dbus restart" and then "/etc/init.d/xdm restart" and it worked.
But i have really no clue what is going on in gentoo, so i was just lucky |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: kdm apparently not working |
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| elsenator wrote: | I've followed the guide to install kde 4.1.2 and everything seemed to install perfectly. I installed it on a clean system. When i "/etc/init.d/xdm start" (after setting xdm to kdm in conf.d), the screen goes black, i get the mouse cursor for about 1 second, and then i exits back to the console.
I had a look at the xorg.log and i can't see any errors in it. Also, if i login as a normal user and run "startx" it works just fine, i get the basic x window system with the 3 greenish windows and the clock.
My suspicion is therefore that it has something to do with kdm, but i'm at a loss about how to figure out what is wrong. Btw, if i set xdm to use xdm it starts up fine. I can also run "startkde" from the basic windows system(3 greenish consoles and the clock) and then kde4 sort of starts. Looks a bit weird though as it's not exactly supposed to be run that way.
Any suggestions on how to get kdm working? |
What do you have in /etc/conf.d/xdm? Try setting DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm-4.1"
Also, try to start kde from "clean" X with startkde and see if that works. |
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elsenator
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Kolrotada wrote: | I also had the same problem (i don't remember what version i used, but it was from the kdesvn-overlay)
I looked in the kdm.log and it said something about dbus-machine.
So i did "/etc/init.d/dbus restart" and then "/etc/init.d/xdm restart" and it worked.
But i have really no clue what is going on in gentoo, so i was just lucky |
YES!!! that was it, dbus wasn't started KDE 4 is now running smoothly and damn it looks and plays well.
Thanks for all your answers, i really appreciate it. |
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Franchute13
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Hello
I have a problem with KDE4. When I try to run startkde throws the following error:
$DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server.
But startx and kdm starts well.
What could it be?
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BdON
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| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Hello
I have a problem with KDE4. When I try to run startkde throws the following error:
$DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server.
But startx and kdm starts well.
What could it be?
Thank |
I am having the same issue. I have tried kde and kde-4.1 in /etc/conf.d/xdm.
To be clear, I can get into KDE if I issue startx first, then from inside there run startkde.
I added dbus to the default startup level as well as xdm. I get a login manager when I boot up, I believe it is just xdm, it is definitely not kdm, and when I log in it takes me to an X session but with no windows at all, just the checkerboard background.
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