[solved]xorg-server-1.5.2 to 1.5.3: no more mouse & keyboard

Martux · Veteran Joined: 04 Feb 2005 Posts: 1917

Hello!
When i try to update my ~amd64 box to xorg-server-1.5.3, keys & mouse disappear.
Recompiling xf86-input-keyboard & xf86-input-mouse afterwards didn't help either.
In another thread i read that from 1.5.3 on xf86-input-evdev is required, but emerging it didn't changed anything...
These are the flags i use xorg-server with:

Voltago · Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject:

Is the hald daemon running?

Martux · Veteran Joined: 04 Feb 2005 Posts: 1917

Argg, that's what i forgot:
Yes, hald is running.
If possible, i don't want to migrate to hal managment of keyboard & mouse... PLEASE!
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WastingBody · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 105

You need to include the evdev driver, and everything should work again. This happened to me yesterday.

Martux · Veteran Joined: 04 Feb 2005 Posts: 1917

What do you mean with include?
Put "evdev" in xorg.conf? Simply emerging it didn't work.
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VoidMage · Watchman Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 6196

With such config, as you've pasted, fdi file is trivial.

Remove input sections from xorg.conf and look at my fdi file:

Martux · Veteran Joined: 04 Feb 2005 Posts: 1917

How do i tell evdev that i want german keyboard?
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d2_racing · Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject:

Hi, you need to change this string :

Martux · Veteran Joined: 04 Feb 2005 Posts: 1917

keymap="de"
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APolozov · Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject:

Simple and fast recept, without other changes into config files, add into xorg.conf
Section "ServerFlags"
...
Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off"
EndSection

Martux · Veteran Joined: 04 Feb 2005 Posts: 1917

you mean with fdi file? With xf86-input-evdev?
Thx, Marcus
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APolozov · Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject:

Martux · Veteran Joined: 04 Feb 2005 Posts: 1917

Well APolozov, your solution fixed it without any other changes. Thank you.
What does
Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off"
do?
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VoidMage · Watchman Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 6196

"AllowEmptyInput" "off" disables any and all input hotplugging (or was that AutoEnableDevices/AutoAddDevices).
Anyway, it definitely lets you remove input sections from xorg.conf (anyway, it's the default).

What I pasted was the content of my fdi file. It's the format
of hal configuration files.

genstu · n00b Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 7

more information here
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=251093

d2_racing · Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:08 pm Post subject:

So what is the best solution to been able to upgrade a box without a itch ?

dweezil-n0xad · Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:15 pm Post subject:

This is how I got it working on my notebook:

APolozov · Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject:

I do not understand necessity of use evdev in xorg. :oops:

You so often plug/unplug/change the mouse and the keyboard?

I did not change input section in a xorg.conf some years and versions xorg and CPU :roll:

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JanErik · Guru Joined: 28 Oct 2002 Posts: 488 Location: Finland

Does it actually require evdev driver from 1.5.3? No way to use the good old drivers?

Martux · Veteran Joined: 04 Feb 2005 Posts: 1917

Nope, the above mentioned line alone is enough. Works perfectly with "old style" drivers here. :lol:

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agent_jdh · Veteran Joined: 08 Aug 2002 Posts: 1783 Location: Scotland

I get the impression that you might be as well moving to correct hald config/evdev driver now, 'cos it's the way it's going to be in the future. The 'old' drivers are going to wither an die afaik.

Might as well get it over with.

I've only added the .fdi files posted by dweezil-n0xad, modded my keymap for uk, commented everything kbd/mouse related in xorg.conf, restarted hald and xdm - everything works fine here.

Don't have any .fdi files for my mouse or gamepad, but the mouse at least works fine with what X defaults to, so doubt I need one. Only thing is some Info/Warnings in X log.

EDIT - Copying the 10-input-policy.fdi file into /etc/hal/fdi/policy seems to have helped suppress some of the warnings in xorg log file.

One problem (may start a new thread about since this this has 'solved') - at KDM login, I can't CTRL+ALT+F1/2/3 etc to drop to a console - I have to log into KDE first, then I can drop to a console fine. Anyone knows what gives? Could do it fine when I configured keyboard to use evdev in xorg.log, rather than the .fdi file for hald. Hmm.
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DaggyStyle · Watchman Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5910

what does using xserver with hal good for anyway?

btw, since I've upgraded, I have an additional language named unnamed, my touchpad is way to "heavy" (moving my finger on it end to end results in a little movement on the screen) and the vertical and horizontal scrolls dont work...
here is my relevent section of xorg:

VinzC · Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:38 pm Post subject:

Hi all.

I've had a similar issue while upgrading xorg-server-1.5.2 to xorg-server-1.5.3. I lost my keyboard, mouse and touchpad although I had already no InputDevice section! I added Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" to the server layout section and I got back my input devices but my keyboard is now us instead of be! Fortunately I have added XFCE keyboard control applet. Curiously enough I had to select Dell keyboard option in the keyboard applet properties instead of evdev, which was selected before.

I looked up in Xorg log file and I saw this:

DaggyStyle · Watchman Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5910

it suppose to be on or off, not true or false

ok I have a laptop, please elaborate..
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dweezil-n0xad · Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:02 pm Post subject:

for reference: this is Xorg.0.log from my working hal setup. you can see that hal provides my keyboard and touchpad configuration: