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DONAHUE Watchman
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:01 am Post subject: |
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Only tutorials for installing grub on a floppy tell you to insert a floppy
grub ordinarily is installed to the MBR of a hard drive
procedures for install with the minimal install cd are in the gentoo handbook and when closely followed produce working systems |
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dE_logics Advocate
Joined: 02 Jan 2009 Posts: 2253 Location: $TERM
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:16 am Post subject: |
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"ERROR, could not map/dev/sda1 to anything in the device map" |
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dE_logics Advocate
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Same goes with the CMD installer. |
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cwr Veteran
Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 1969
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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I know it may seem counter-productive, but I really think you'd be better off
if you did what's called a Stage 3 install from the command line. I spent ten
minutes or so yesterday installing Ubuntu and Fedora from LiveCDs, admittedly
into VirtualBox containers, and in both cases everything worked fine; Gentoo's
GUI installer isn't like that.
In fact, one approach might be install, say, Ubuntu, from a live CD onto a small
disk partition and then use that to install Gentoo. Could be quicker overall. Or
just install Ubuntu under VirtualBox in Windows, and play with that until you're
comfortable with some of the basic Linux concepts. (I run modern but not very
quick hardware, and VirtualBox is more that fast enough for general tasks;
heavy video processing, for instance, would be beyond it.)
But if you want to go ahead, then try reading the Gentoo x86 Quick Install guide,
which is on this site's doc page. You need a Stage3 file, and a portage snapshot,
and some way of booting some sort of linux so that you can partitition the drive.
You end up logging into a shell prompt, and you then build the rest of the system
from there. The advantage is that you can see what you are doing at all times,
and hence you can ask very specific questions and (probably) get useful answers.
As for some of the current questions, you probably want to start with four partitions,
though opinions differ - around 64MB for /boot (grub), around 8-16G for / (root),
8G for /usr/portage (sources), 4-8G for /home (your stuff) would be a starting
point, though you can halve or double those sizes depending. The main advantage
of using so many separate partitions is that it's easier to change and update things
without writing off the whole system.
Grub doesn't need a floppy (unless you're booting off one). If you enter the command
grub (you probably need to be the super-user) you get a prompt:
grub >
You then enter commands, for instance:
grub > root (hd0,0)
grub > setup (hd0,0)
grub > quit
adds grub to the MBR of the first hard drive. Note that grub is neurotic about spaces
in its commands, and uses zero-based labelling for partitions where everything else
uses one. Read the documentation carefully first.
Good luck, anyway - Will
(I forgot - you might want a swap partition in there as well as the four I mentioned;
on laptops, especially, it's used for suspending the system more than swapping.) |
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dE_logics Advocate
Joined: 02 Jan 2009 Posts: 2253 Location: $TERM
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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I want an x64 installation.
Quote: | The main advantage
of using so many separate partitions is that it's easier to change and update things
without writing off the whole system. |
Much more than that I have to say...how about access times?
All problems with partitioning is done...thanks all!
Ok...I might give the manual install a try...but I don't have time for that
Say...this bug has been in for quite a lot of time now, hope the contributes fix it soon. |
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dE_logics Advocate
Joined: 02 Jan 2009 Posts: 2253 Location: $TERM
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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This guy tried a manual install...and the results were same -
https://bugs.gentoo.org/243064
So...no options but UBUNTU.
I'll keep a check for new versions of Gentoo...and when this'll be fixed, I'll install it. |
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Inodoro_Pereyra Advocate
Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 2631 Location: En la otra punta del cable
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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dE_logics wrote: | This guy tried a manual install...and the results were same -
https://bugs.gentoo.org/243064
So...no options but UBUNTU.
I'll keep a check for new versions of Gentoo...and when this'll be fixed, I'll install it. |
Is not the same bug read below in the bug, the guy says he forgot to pass a kernel option:
Comment #1 From Bruce Edge 2008-10-21 19:01:42 0000 wrote: | Forgot to add kernel options.
Booted with "gentoo dolvm" |
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dE_logics Advocate
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:30 am Post subject: |
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The bug is still new. |
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cwr Veteran
Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 1969
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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dE_logics wrote: | I want an x64 installation.
Quote: | The main advantage
of using so many separate partitions is that it's easier to change and update things
without writing off the whole system. |
Much more than that I have to say...how about access times?
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Ok...I might give the manual install a try...but I don't have time for that
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I don't know if a Windows VM could handle x64, but the 32-bit and 64-bit versions
act the same, so you could still learn useful stuff about Gentoo on a 32-bit VM.
I wouldn't worry about access times; separate mounts don't really add to that,
or decrease it.
Well, installing via the GUI, as you've seen, isn't necessarily quicker.
Will |
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monsm Guru
Joined: 26 Sep 2007 Posts: 467 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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dE_logics wrote: | This guy tried a manual install...and the results were same -
https://bugs.gentoo.org/243064
So...no options but UBUNTU.
I'll keep a check for new versions of Gentoo...and when this'll be fixed, I'll install it. |
You might have a less frustrating time by trying ubuntu first. Most people come to Gentoo after using one of the larger distros first. Ones you get more used to the Linux file systems and ways of working, it will be easier to install Gentoo. Gentoo will give you far more control and speed than other Linux distributions (well, most of them anyway).
If you install Ubuntu (or e.g. Fedora or openSuse), remember to use the command prompt (terminal) so that you get used to that too and not just the GUI tools. You will need the terminal in Gentoo and it is often quicker even on those other distros. E.g. Ubuntu's GUI package manager can take a long time to load, but an "apt-get" command in the terminal is much qucker.
Another problem you might have is your dial-up internet connection. I have had big problems installing Gentoo without a normal ethernet/broadband network connection. I did eventually succeed by using the live CD of a different distro to install Gentoo (someone above suggested systemrescucd...).
Anyway, good luck.
Mons |
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