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 Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 3:12 am Post subject: Win2k after Linux |
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I installed Gentoo, and was very happy until I started to miss all the crashes, and blue screens, and things not working.... no, actually I just miss Half-Life and Unreal 2003. But that's not the point.....
So I'm happy and all with Gentoo 1.3a. Been using Linux on my desktop for about a month and a half.... been playing with it for about a year... but I need Win2k... so I made it a small 10GB partition on my 2nd HD. Here is the way my HD's are laid out:
| Code: | /dev/hde1 - /boot
/dev/hde2 - swap
/dev/hde3 - /
/dev/hdg1 - NTFS partition with Win2k on it right now |
Now, I use LILO, b/c I was having major problems with Grub and LILO solved it... plus I like LILO better... don't ask why...
Like I said, I can boot Linux just fine, but when I go to boot Windows, I get this error:
| Code: | NTLDR missing...
Press any key to reboot. |
Here is my /etc/lilo.conf file:
| Code: | menu-scheme=Wb
boot = /dev/hde
prompt
map = /boot/System.map
lba32
delay = 5
vga = normal
image = /boot/bzImage
root = /dev/hde3
label = Gentoo
read-only
other = /dev/hdg1
label = Windows
table = /dev/hdg |
Anybody got any suggestions? |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 3:17 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure if you can do this under Lilo, but Windows likes to boot off of the first hard drive. With Grub, you would issue two "map" commands (to swap the second disk with the first disk and vice vesa), and Windows suddenly becomes happy.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 3:19 am Post subject: |
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How do I do that? I had grub before, and I wouldn't mind to go back. I always kept getting an Error 21 though... but I was always able to boot off floppy just fine.
I'll try it after I find out how to map the drives....
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 3:27 am Post subject: |
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| Code: | map (hd0) (hd1)
map (hd1) (hd0) |
...I think. There's an example in the Grub FAQ (somewhere on the Grub site, and I don't feel like digging up the link).
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 4:15 am Post subject: |
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So if Winblows is in (hd1) right now, would I tell it to load (hd0) after I enter the map thing into menu.lst?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 4:20 am Post subject: |
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Give Grub the real information, as Grub isn't fooled by itself. 
| Code: | title=Win2k
rootnoverify (hd1,0)
chainloader +1
map (hd1) (hd0)
map (hd0) (hd1) |
That ought to do the trick.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 4:44 am Post subject: |
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Well now everthing's messed up:
What should I type at grub>?
Here's what I did and how it turned out:
| Code: | grub> root (hd0)
File system type unknown, using whole disk
grub> setup (hd0)
Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition |
It also gives me the same error when I try to setup (fd0). I've tried this with /boot mounted and unmounted. Same error. /boot is there, and everything is in place. It's ext2.
I was able to boot up in "rescue" mode by using the Gentoo boot CD. Then mount / on /mnt/gentoo/ and /boot on /mnt/gentoo/boot. Then chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash and source /etc/profile.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 4:52 am Post subject: |
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You should run root() on your /boot partition, and setup your primary boot device (hd0).
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 5:09 am Post subject: |
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Now when I boot off the hard drive, I get this:
| Code: | | GRUB loading, please wait... |
I think that's b/c my BIOS reconizes my RAID controller, and not as 2 IDE controllers. But, when I use the boot floppy I made, it boots to grub> prompt and not the menu. What do I do now?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 5:10 am Post subject: |
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Re-jumper your hard drives, install Lilo on your Windows disk, and update your fstab? 
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 5:25 am Post subject: |
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I don't know how to install LILO. When I go to "emerge lilo" in the rescue mode thing, it says /boot must be mounted. Boot it mounted at /boot like it says. I've tried remounting it and everything, still asys the same thing.
Also, what did u mean by install LILO on my WINDOWS partition?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 5:29 am Post subject: |
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Switch your drives in hardware so that Windows resides on the first disk (either by switching master/slave or swapping cables) and install Lilo into the MBR of that disk. You should already have lilo installed under Gentoo (right?), so you shouldn't have to re-emerge it.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 5:38 am Post subject: |
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No, I have grub installed, not LILO. I removed LILO when I tried it yesterday and went back to grub like someone told me I should do.
I'll need to change my fstab and what else if I switch those drives. Is that it?
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| ee99ee2 wrote: | | I'll need to change my fstab and what else if I switch those drives. Is that it? |
Yeah, and the "root=/dev/..." boot parameter.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Okay. Did that. FINALLY got LILO installed. Don't know how I did it, but I'm never going back to grub.
ANYWAY, when I try to boot Winblows, I get the same old error...:
| Code: | NTLDR missing...
Press any key to restart. |
I've got a major headake over all this. *bangs head on desk* wonder why
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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I forget the filename, but you may have to edit the NT file that points to where
it is installed. After doing the map commands, maybe this is confusing NT?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Are you thinking of boot.ini? That's what tells the Windows boot loader what to load. But the problem is I don't want to use the Windows boot loader to load LILO, then load Linux... I want to use LILO to load Windows.... and I know it's possable, because I did it about 2 months ago with Win2k and Debian on this same machine. Only difference was I installed Win2k first, but that shouldn't make much difference, other then make it easier to get things working.
What u all think?
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Yeah, thats what I was thinking of. You've got me. I've never heard of a way to
boot Windows without using the NTLDR. Did you follow a HOW-TO the last time?
I use Grub to boot and choose linux/win2k. When I select win2k, NTLDR boots
windows.
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| kanuslupus wrote: | | I use Grub to boot and choose linux/win2k. When I select win2k, NTLDR boots windows. |
Ditto, and remember the boot.ini uses a silly format like multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)... just change all occurences of disk(1) to disk(0) and you should be good.
BTW, Grub really isn't all that bad. As you said, it's probably your BIOS'es fault.
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