font size on high resolutions

ranmakun · Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 9:59 pm Post subject: font size on high resolutions

I recently got a 19" CRT monitor and I run at 1480x1110 resolution (1600x1400 had too much flickering). But the problem is that all the default font sizes in kde look too small, but I can't find a font size that I'm confortable with.
If I just scale up the default font it looks like all the fonts are bold. And then I have to also change the font size of konqueror. I would also have to change the fonts of gtk programs and I'm not sure where is that.
Well, thats my problem, so I guess my question is, what font and font sizes do you use with high res?

yagami · Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 10:14 pm Post subject: font size

you can try starting X with -dpi 100

this is what i use in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers :

synapscape · Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 10:52 pm Post subject:

Check your Xfree-logs for an entry dealing with a) resolution and b) dimension. The first one tells you the dpi-resolution X is using and the second one the phys. screensize of your monitor in mm. Check the latter if it is correct. If not, add the line "DisplaySize xx yy" to your "Section Monitor" in XF86Config. The xx and yy values should match your monitors phys. dimension in mm (see your manual for those specs). Be sure that these values have a roundabout 4:3 relation, otherwise strange things could happen... :wink:

It did set my fontsizes correctly, especially in mozilla...
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ranmakun · Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:24 am Post subject:

Well, thanks for the response, I tried what you two say, and searched other posts and it seems that the solution would be to change the dpi, but:
In my default setting I have this:
Dimension 361x271 (which is ok)
Resolution 104x104 dpi

but if I "startx -- -dpi 150" for example, I get:
Resolution 150x150
dimension 251x188 (whick is incorrect)
and fonts and anything stays the same, so, its like it is adjusting the dimmension to always have the same font size.
I also tried as you sugested to add a line in my xf86config-4 with "DisplaySize" to try to force the dimmension but when I start with a different dpi it changes the dimension anyway.
Any ideas?

yagami · Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 12:05 pm Post subject: dpi

its strange you are ajusting the dpi and the fonts are the same.

also , if you are changing the dpi , dont use the displaysize option.
try a dpi setting without displaysize on XF86Config , and them see its displaysize and if you want to have that dpi without always passing the -dpi setting , them put displaysize on XF86Config.

try gnome-font-properties , in advanced there is a choose dpi ,try changing there. it should change realtime.

ranmakun · Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 2:57 pm Post subject:

Well, I tried to change the dpi without the displaysize option, in fact, that was what I did at first. But everytime I change the dpi the dimmension gets screwed.
I've also tried the gnome-font-properties to change fonts to gnome apps, but, some apps change and some dont, for example, gimp-1.3.17 and pan but other applications dont (gnomame, grustibus, gtoaster)
Maybe is that gtk-2.0 applications are changing and the other ones not?

yagami · Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 8:44 pm Post subject: aa fonts

gnome-font-properties only changes gtk 2 apps fonts.

( dont know why but it messes with kde 3.1 in my box too )

i dont think you should care much about the displaySize ... just adjust the dpi to your choice.

christsong84 · Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:21 am Post subject: Re: aa fonts

yagami · Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:32 am Post subject: mozilla gtk gaim etc

mozilla can be gtk1 or 2.but only the backend i think.
gaim is gtk2

gaim will use the fonts in gnome-font-properties ( if not specified otherwise ) by default

in mozilla you have to change it manually

message windows in kopete is on kopete properties.

gnome-font-properties changes kde fonts also , but only in dpi or hint or subpixel,not the fonts itself , only the freetype properties .

ronmon · Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 11:33 am Post subject:

Rather than changing X's resolution, you want to change the resolution at which fonts are rendered. Check out /etc/X11/fs/config and find the line that looks like this:

yagami · Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 1:28 pm Post subject: xfs

isnt that just for the xfs font server ?