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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:10 am    Post subject: Cannot connect to internet during installation! Reply with quote

Hi all!

I am a long time Windows user making a leap from Ubuntu to Gentoo :idea: :roll:

I cannot for the life of me get an internet connection working while installing off of my Gentoo Minimal AMD64 CD!

I will provide all of the information I can, and appreciate any help..

    I am using an HP laptop.

    My ethernet cords, router, and DSL modem are fine. I have the DHCP server enabled on my router, and it does not start until 192.168.2.10

    The result of any 'ping' is always "ping: unknown host www.(anything).com"

    'ifconfig' shows 'lo' and 'eth0', which I have verified as my integrated network card.

    forcedeth is automatically in use.

    '/etc/init.d/net.eth0 start' outputs "* Caching service dependencies ... * WARNING: net.eth0 has already been started. [ ok ]"

    'net-setup eth0' -> 'Use DHCP to auto-detect my network settings' does not seem to alter anything. At this point I entered my router's setup menu from another computer. My laptop has been assigned a lease at 192.168.2.10.

    'net-setup eth0' -> 'Specify an IP address manually' changes the numbers that appear at 'ifconfig eth0', but I still cannot ping anything. The values I am entering are correct and work in Windows.

    'lspci | grep Ethernet' shows "00:14.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)"

    'route' shows

Code:
Kernel IP routing table
Destination   Gateway      Genmask        Flags Metric  Ref    Use  Iface
192.168.2.0  *           255.255.255.0    U       0      0     0    eth0
192.168.1.0  *           255.255.255.0    U       0      0     0    eth0
link-local   *           255.255.0.0      U       0      0     0    eth0
loopback     *           255.0.0.0        U       0      0     0     lo
default      192.168.2.1  0.0.0.0         UG      0      0     0    eth0


Also these are my network settings in Windows, and what I entered during net-setup;
My IP = 192.168.2.5
Broadcast = 192.168.2.255
Subnet = 255.255.255.0
Gateway = 192.168.2.1
DNS Server = 192.168.2.1

Finally neither of the status lights on my network card ever turn on in the Gentoo CD. These two lights are always on in Windows, Arch, Ubuntu etc. To me this would indicate that Gentoo/Linux Kernel is not seeing my card properly, but when I interrogate it with the stuff above there doesn't seem to be a problem! If it is relevant, I did not have to do anything fancy (or, at all really) to get this network card working in the Arch Linux installer or Ubuntu.

Not sure what else I can try!

Thanks again for any suggestions.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

use an ubuntu livecd of the same bitness as your intended install.
Code:
 mkdir /mnt/gentoo
then follow the gentoo handbook. The minimal cd is just a platform, any same bitness livecd or installed system will work as well. Get the stage3 tarball from the gentoo mirrors' releases/<arch>/current directory.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds very familiar. I had a very similar problem on my Asus P5N-E SLI with the integrated NIC. lspci reports the same Ethernet controller on my box.

Oddly, I never really truly resolved the issue. The weird thing was that networking worked great on my existing HD install (Arch Linux 64) and did not work on any live CD I tried. It "resolved" itself when I threw in an extra 10/100MB NIC I had laying around - after which both NICs worked on all my LiveCDs.

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-758579-highlight-.html
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

forkbomb wrote:
Sounds very familiar. I had a very similar problem on my Asus P5N-E SLI with the integrated NIC. lspci reports the same Ethernet controller on my box.

Oddly, I never really truly resolved the issue. The weird thing was that networking worked great on my existing HD install (Arch Linux 64) and did not work on any live CD I tried. It "resolved" itself when I threw in an extra 10/100MB NIC I had laying around - after which both NICs worked on all my LiveCDs.

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-758579-highlight-.html

oh I'm well aware 8O

I did about 500 searches before I made my thread :wink:

Too bad I have a laptop, destroying any flexibility like this that I may have had..



DONAHUE wrote:
use an ubuntu livecd of the same bitness as your intended install.
Code:
 mkdir /mnt/gentoo
then follow the gentoo handbook. The minimal cd is just a platform, any same bitness livecd or installed system will work as well. Get the stage3 tarball from the gentoo mirrors' releases/<arch>/current directory.

I have an Ubuntu AMD64 Live CD and the AMD64 stage3 tarball file saved in Windows (currently the only OS I have installed).. Now the dumb question, how do I use the two to install Gentoo?
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

assuming your laptop has a 64 bit processor
boot the ubuntu live cd
open a terminal window
run
Code:
su mkdir /mnt/gentoo

open browser, browse to http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?style=printable&full=1#book_part1_chap4 , the gentoo handbook. Follow the handbook. You will have to be in ubuntu as root or use lots of su's.
If you have not already done so, reading through the handbook before starting is a good idea.
If Ubuntu CD will read your ntfs partition you can use the stage3 tarball you stored there,
Code:
su mkdir /mnt/ntfs
mount /dev/sda1  /mnt/ntfs
when the tarball is called for find it under /mnt/ntfs/ and cp it to /mnt/gentoo. Probably as easy to download a fresh copy to /mnt/gentoo.

BTW your base problem may be a bios setting for your nic that does power saving or green.
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool thank you donahue i'll give this a try sometime in the next few days and see how it goes.
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I got everything installed and setup ok in the Ubuntu Live CD (or so I thought), but when I went to reboot I ran into a problem.

"The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem"

What does this mean? It occurs after the GRUB menu, while Gentoo loading stuff (so I'm assuming it's not a problem with grub.conf or fstab?). And of course, pressing "Ctrl-D to continue" just restarts the system.

Thanks for any ideas!
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boot the ubuntu cd or ubuntu, whichever is easy, mount the / and /boot partitions, run:
Code:
cat /etc/fstab
cat /boot/grub/grub.conf
fdisk -l
mount

and post the results here.

My guess pending data is fstab.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo cat /etc/fstab
Code:
aufs / aufs rw 0 0
tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
/dev/sda3 swap swap defaults 0 0


ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo cat /media/disk-1/etc/fstab
Code:
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# noatime turns off atimes for increased performance (atimes normally aren't
# needed; notail increases performance of ReiserFS (at the expense of storage
# efficiency).  It's safe to drop the noatime options if you want and to
# switch between notail / tail freely.
#
# The root filesystem should have a pass number of either 0 or 1.
# All other filesystems should have a pass number of 0 or greater than 1.
#
# See the manpage fstab(5) for more information.
#

# <fs>         <mountpoint>   <type>      <opts>      <dump/pass>

# NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to opts.
/dev/BOOT      /boot      ext2      defaults,noatime   1 2
/dev/ROOT      /      ext4      noatime      0 1
/dev/SWAP      none      swap      sw      0 0
/dev/cdrom      /mnt/cdrom   auto      noauto,ro,user   0 0
#/dev/fd0      /mnt/floppy   auto      noauto      0 0

# glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm for
# POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
# (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk, and will
#  use almost no memory if not populated with files)
#shm         /dev/shm   tmpfs      nodev,nosuid,noexec   0 0



ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo cat /media/disk/boot/grub/grub.conf
Code:
# This is a sample grub.conf for use with Genkernel, per the Gentoo handbook
# http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10#doc_chap2
# If you are not using Genkernel and you need help creating this file, you
# should consult the handbook. Alternatively, consult the grub.conf.sample that
# is included with the Grub documentation.

default 2
timeout 10
#splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title Gentoo Linux 2.6.29-r5
root (hd0,3)
kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.29-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/sda4

title Gentoo Linux 2.6.29-r5 (rescue)
rooot (hd0,3)
kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.29-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/sda4 init=/bin/bb

title Windows Vista
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1

# vim:ft=conf:


ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l
Code:

Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xde6f9641

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1       26108   209712478+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2           26109       26113       40162+  83  Linux
/dev/sda3           26114       26238     1004062+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda4           26239       30401    33439297+  83  Linux


ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount
Code:
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)
rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)
/dev/sr0 on /cdrom type iso9660 (ro,noatime)
/dev/loop0 on /rofs type squashfs (ro,noatime)
fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/ubuntu/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=ubuntu)
/dev/sda2 on /media/disk type ext2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
/dev/sda4 on /media/disk-1 type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fstab it is:
Replace with:
Quote:
/dev/sda2 /boot ext2 defaults,noatime 1 2
/dev/sda4 / ext4 noatime 0 1
/dev/sda3 none swap sw 0 0
shm /dev/shm tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0


and give it a reboot.
This one happens all the time.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DONAHUE wrote:
Fstab it is:
Replace with:
Quote:
/dev/sda2 /boot ext2 defaults,noatime 1 2
/dev/sda4 / ext4 noatime 0 1
/dev/sda3 none swap sw 0 0
shm /dev/shm tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0


and give it a reboot.
This one happens all the time.



oh jesus chriiiiist how do i not notice something like that after seeing 800 examples of the file on google 8O

thank you for all your help donahue!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

poop i still do not have internet access.. The lights on my NIC are working now, and I can ping my router and other computers on the network successfully, but things are still
Code:
ping www.google.com
ping: unknown host www.google.com

:cry:

Did I configure my kernel wrong? Or are there other possibilities here?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you are describing a domain name service problem.
run:
Code:
ifconfig -a
cat /etc/resolv.conf
cat /etc/conf.d/net

and post the results.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DONAHUE wrote:
you are describing a domain name service problem.
run:
Code:
ifconfig -a
cat /etc/resolv.conf
cat /etc/conf.d/net

and post the results.


Just to extend, format of resolv.conf should be:

nameserver <nameserver ip>

I always use opendns:
Code:

nameserver 208.67.220.220
nameserver 208.67.222.222
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ifconfig -a
Code:
eth0
Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1e:68:3f:b6:5a
inet addr:192.168.2.5 Bcast:192.168.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::21e:68ff:fe3f:b65a/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:7 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:556 (556.0 B)
Interrupt:23 Base address:0x4000

lo
Link encap:Local Loopback
*etc*

sit0
Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4
*etc*


cat /etc/resolv.conf
Code:
#Generated by net-scripts for interface lo
domain homenetwork

8O

cat /etc/conf.d/net
Code:
dns_domain_lo="homenetwork"
config_eth0=( "192.168.2.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.2.255" )
routes_eth0=( "default via 192.168.2.1" )




forkbomb wrote:
DONAHUE wrote:
you are describing a domain name service problem.
run:
Code:
ifconfig -a
cat /etc/resolv.conf
cat /etc/conf.d/net

and post the results.


Just to extend, format of resolv.conf should be:

nameserver <nameserver ip>

I always use opendns:
Code:

nameserver 208.67.220.220
nameserver 208.67.222.222


I guess I skipped setting up resolv.conf :?

Adding this
forkbomb wrote:
Code:

nameserver 208.67.220.220
nameserver 208.67.222.222

did the trick! :wink:
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every time I restart the computer resolv.conf resets itself, but DHCP is off :x

Why might this be happening?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do away with
Code:
dns_domain_lo="homenetwork"

check/fix resolv.conf and try
Code:
/etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart

dns_domain_lo="homenetwork" also wipes out resolv.conf with every net. start
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok the internet is now working splendidly thanks to you two, but of course another problem.

I have tried to 'emerge --sync' four times now, and every time without fail [but each time at a different point in the process] I am met with kernel panic :x :x

Worse, nothing appears on the screen. The only indication I get is the caps lock light blinking.

Is there any way to troubleshoot this? A dump file somewhere when this happens?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

run
Code:
 df -iah /dev/sdb1
df -ah /dev/sdb1
tune2fs -l /dev/sda4 #change sda4 to be the device(partition) your /usr/portage directory is on (if necessary).

and post the results.
there is a chance you are out of room or inodes or the ext4 fs is misfiring.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

df -iah /dev/sda4
Code:
Filesystem     Inodes     IUsed     IFree     IUse%     Mounted on
/dev/sda4        2.0M      199K      1.9M       10%       /


df -ah /dev/sda4
Code:
Filesystem     Size     Used     Avail     Use%     Mounted on
/dev/sda4       32G     1.9G       28G       7%        /


tune2fs -l /dev/sda4
Code:
Filesystem volume name:    <none>
Last mounted on:           <not available>
Filesystem UUID:           46281243-25a4-afeb-8921-6765a9677ce9c
Filesystem magic number:   0xEF53
Filesystem revision #:     1 (dynamic)
Filesystem features:       has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index filetype needs_recovery extent flex_bg sparse_super large_file huge_file uninit_bg dir_nlink extra_isize
Filesystem flags:          signed_directory_hash
Default mount options:     (none)
Filesystem state:          clean
Errors behavior:           Continue
Filesystem OS type:        Linux
Inode count:               2093056
Block count:               8359824
Reserved block count:      417991
Free blocks:               7746215
Free inodes:               1889745
First block:               0
Block size:                4096
Fragment size:             4096
Reserved GDT blocks:       1022
Blocks per group:          32768
Fragments per group:       32768
Inodes per group:          8176
Inode blocks per group:    511
Flex block group size:     16
Filesystem Created:        Sat May 30 21:29:52 2009
Check interval:            15552000 (6 months)
Next check after:          Thu Nov 26 21:29:52 2009
Reserved blocks uid:       0 (user root)
Reserved blocks gid:       0 (group root)
First inode:               11
Inode size:                256
Required extra isize:      28
Desired extra isize:       28
Journal inode:             8
Default directory has:     half_md4
Directory Hash Seed:       d95e848e-7c14-4bf5-a5e1-7c8394187b67
Journal backup:            inode blocks
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not either of those, boot cd, run
Code:

umount /dev/sda4
fsck /dev/sda4

hoping the fsck program is present and current
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

umount /dev/sda4
fsck /dev/sda4

Code:
fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)
e2fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)
/dev/sda4: clean, 203311/2093056 files, 613610/8359824 blocks
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

out of ideas
you might start a new thread titled to reflect exactly this problem like 'computer locks up during emerge --sync' maybe replacing 'computer' with model or cpu/motherboard
could be hardware, NIC or cpu heating?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good idea i'll do that now thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post your kernel .config, the results of lspci -n and cat /proc/cpuinfo as well as your /etc/fstab. I'll check for kernel issues.

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