let the sorting begin

SpanKY · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 12:32 pm Post subject: let the sorting begin

we've setup a website to help with the sorting ...

it'd be great if peeps hopped on and started throwing their 2 cents around

http://games.wh0rd.de/newcats.php

Lovechild · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 12:54 pm Post subject:

man that site is slow

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Lovechild · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:58 pm Post subject:

and the games-mods catagory needs to be nuked - it's about as saying as apps-stuff.

it says nothing about the type of game - and it was kinda unamusing to have to retag the Fortune-mod stuff from games-mod to app-misc (or rather irrelvant stuff in terms of games) - since someone just marked them without knowning what the package contained.

So PLEASE don't mark something unless you are 100% sure what the package is.

zhenlin · Veteran Joined: 09 Nov 2002 Posts: 1361

game-mods? Modifications? Or modules?

fortune-mod probably should go to app-entertainment or entertainment-jokes or entertainment-misc...

Lovechild · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 3:27 pm Post subject:

SpanKY · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 3:47 pm Post subject:

charlieg · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:07 pm Post subject:

I don't like the 'games-action' category.

It's too vague. It overlaps with games-arcade, games-platform, and games-sport (the latter 2 not being there yet).
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charlieg · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:11 pm Post subject:

Lovechild · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:25 pm Post subject:

SpanKY · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:30 pm Post subject:

one question that has come up with the games team is how to handle freeware/shareware/games-you-need-cd ...

one idea i had was to utilize local USE flags (games-shareware) but that seems to be pretty bunk ...

another idea i had was to put warning messages in pkg_setup and pkg_postinst ... not sure about this ...

a third idea comes up because of this website ... someone made 'games-demos' ... i kind of like it, the only problem is that we have demos for fps's, puzzles, etc... it seems a little odd to lump them together ...

Lovechild · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:36 pm Post subject:

currently we append -demo to the demos if I'm not mistaken.

and we have a license field to handle the rest - if the license is shareware fx. you could add a warning pre install about remembering to stick to the license (needs a URL to the terms of usage)

SpanKY · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:39 pm Post subject:

Lovechild · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 5:07 pm Post subject:

hensan · l33t Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 868 Location: Sweden

There are 8 MUD clients (that i could find) in portage, maybe they should have their own category? Or should they just be placed in rpg or something.

The clients:

gmudix
gnome-mud
kmuddy
mcl
mudix
tintin
tf
ytin

EDIT: I added the games-mud category and added these games to it.

SpanKY · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 5:15 pm Post subject:

also, rather than moving humor related material (manpages/cowsay/fotune) to app-doc/app-misc, i think it's better off in games-misc ...

Genone · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 5:18 pm Post subject:

SpanKY · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 5:19 pm Post subject:

SpanKY · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 5:21 pm Post subject:

zhenlin · Veteran Joined: 09 Nov 2002 Posts: 1361

We need an abbreviation for app-entertainment or entertainment-funny... app-funny?

Lovechild · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 5:34 pm Post subject:

Fortune is considered a game???

SpanKY · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 5:35 pm Post subject:

SpanKY · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 5:36 pm Post subject:

hmm, how about combining 'games-rts' and 'games-strategy' into just 'games-strategy' ?

also, the 'games-simulation' seems to have issues ... we can put sports games like baseball/pool in there, but what about the games that *are* simulations ?

hensan · l33t Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 868 Location: Sweden

There seems to be quite a few interpreters in portage:

Exult (Ultima 7)
FreeCraft (WarCraft/StarCraft)
FreeSCI (Sierra SCI)
Frotz (Infocom)
Kwest (Infocom)
ScummVM (Lucasarts SCUMM)
Zoom (Infocom)

FreeSCI and Kwest are in app-emulation, the rest are in app-games. They should probably all go in the same place (games-emulation).

The thing is, though, that these aren't emulators, but interpreters (re-implementations of game engines), so they should really have their own category, games-interpreter or something.

Any thoughts?

zhenlin · Veteran Joined: 09 Nov 2002 Posts: 1361

data-funny... Too oxymoronic.

funny-data... See above.

entertainment-funny... Too long.

app-funny... Not appropriate.

games-funny... I suppose XBill goes in here too.

misc-funny... Perfect!

games-real... Simulation of real games.

games-rts... Real Time Strategy. Absorb SimCity-like things as well. Everyday, the citizens plot against me...

games-strategy... Turn-based Strategy... Not very many.