KDE 4.3 is now unmasked for amd64

BlackEye · l33t Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Posts: 756 Location: Germany

How can I upgrade from 4.2 to 4.3 without too much trouble?
Do I need to manually download all the *-4.3 Files from http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/kde.git;a=tree;f=sets ?
And afterwards manually keywording all the kde 4.3 stuff by my own?
Isn't there an easier step?

bekkra · n00b Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 57

Thanks for the ideas about running commands as root. I am familiar with several ways of doing my maintenance chores, but I see that I failed to make my point. The interesting user interaction problem is that what you see is not what you have.

KDE presents the settings as "System settings", but you cannot "run" this as root. Since the GUI lacks the quirks for doing this ( where even the Windows post-XP right-click-holding-modifier-and-get-the-run-as-option actually does the work ), the interesting point is that both of the solutions fail on the first critical point: the user must find the executable that is run to present the window named "System settings".

This problem is generic to most GUI systems as they all rely on file systems for storing executables, so that the file system limitations and conventions frame the module names. KDE could help this in several ways; I was looking for some idea about how we - the normal users - were imagined to find a suitable solution.

But thanks again guys, I have since chosen an even uglier solution. I collect the most often used maintenance stuff and set them up in sudo to be independant on the GUI. This is smooth and just as robust as the entire sudo stuff is.

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joefish · Guru Joined: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 316 Location: New Zealand

Hi Blackeye,

Here's what worked for me:

Assuming you used sets to install 4.2, then:
- Go to that link you have there, and where it says "snapshot" up the top, download one of the compressed files there. It'll have all the sets directories in it, without having to download them all individually.
- Uncompress that into your sets directory (/etc/portage/sets)
- Download the keywords file - wget -O /etc/portage/package.keywords/kde-4.3 'http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/kde.git;a=blob_plain;f=Documentation/package.keywords/kde-4.3.keywords' (this command works if you have a package.keywords directory; you could also download the file then add it's contents to your keyword file if you're using that method).
- Install kde from sets like you normally would. i.e 'emerge @kde/kdebase-4.3' etc. Portage will figure out that 4.2 needs to be removed (at least it did for me. I'm not using the -kdeprefix flag).

Hope that helps.

Edit: See also some tips here - http://www.linuxized.com/2009/08/kde-4-3-is-here-quick-gentoo-upgrade-guide/

d2_racing · Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:50 am Post subject:

BlackEye · l33t Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Posts: 756 Location: Germany

Hi joefish,

thanks a lot for your help! This was really helpful for me. I'll start to upgrade to 4.3 now

PS: I've megatons of

Gh0str1d3r · Guru Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 411

another trick is to rightclick the K-menu button, K-menu editor and there copy the systemsettings link and edit "advanced -> run as" root.

Of course, it works with kdesu systemsettings, but with krunner it does not work for me. And furthermore, you have to type the whole word without tab autocomplete to get the tool wrench. So as said before, if kde should address gui-only computer noobs, it should have a button for it.

EasterParade · l33t Joined: 26 Jul 2003 Posts: 938

d2_racing · Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:56 am Post subject:

Are you running inside the ~arch or you use /etc/portage/package.keywords ?

smurfer · Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:11 pm Post subject:

Hello,

I had the same question. What about kdelibs and some others on packages.gentoo.org?

Bye smurfer
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EasterParade · l33t Joined: 26 Jul 2003 Posts: 938

d2_racing · Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:52 am Post subject:

Ok I see, because I'm running with a ~amd64 box and I'm running Kde 4.3.0 right now, so maybe your /etc/portage/package.keywords need a little tweak.

scoop_yo · n00b Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 8

Hi, up to now I have kde 4.2 and used the meta packages method to install it.
I don't use kdeprefix.

Today, I did

emerge --sync && emerge --metadata
and replace kde 4.2 keywords with today's package.keywords
for kde 4.3 in my /etc/portage/package.keywords.

Problem is, that when I try to emerge the 4.3 meta I get the error
that all the 4.2.4 packages are blocking the 4.3 ones. (the Block messages are in red

)
Also all the 4.3 packages seem to want to go to a new slot!

How can I avoid the new slot collision and cleanly upgrade from the 4.2
to 4.3 ? Should I uninstall the 4.2 kde meta ?
Even if i remove the 4.2 info from the var/lib/portage/world file
I still get the new slot for kde 4.3 meta packages but now the block messages are
in blue, which makes them easy to resolve I think.

Any ideas ? I didn't find a solution in the docs or this topic (..meaning that I did a bit of search first

)

PS: Before I did all the above changes still with kde 4.2 to my package.keywords
portage was complaining with red Blocking message that 4.2.4 is blocking kde 4.3
I guess I am missing something here.

My gentoo installation is about a month old, pretty fresh I'd say

EasterParade · l33t Joined: 26 Jul 2003 Posts: 938

@scoop_yo

scoop_yo · n00b Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 8

EasterParade · l33t Joined: 26 Jul 2003 Posts: 938

scoop_yo, a lot of real experts are running around here and I am not one of' em but I`d guess

EasterParade · l33t Joined: 26 Jul 2003 Posts: 938

Compile went through just fine but I cannot start kde4.

devsk · Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:16 am Post subject:

Does the upgrade from 4.2 to 4.3 work without problems?
Does it migrate my 4.2 settings? O do I need to wipe ~/.kde4[.2]?

That's the only thing keeping me away from it. The pain of setting everything up to my liking after I move to 4.3.

pdw_hu · Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:16 am Post subject:

EasterParade · l33t Joined: 26 Jul 2003 Posts: 938

Kde-4.3 is running here and doing fine.

There are some things that don' t work as expected
but I am still exploring. I know kde-3.5, have used it for years and this is a totally different look and feel.
And some packages have been left over from 3.5.10 that have drawn in kdelibs-3.5.10 which I should get
rid of, mostly things that kde4 doesn' t have at all or yet.

Additionally there are use-flags and packages in package.use that seem obsolete for kde4.
But I am not sure about what I could throw out and what I should leave unmolested.

Now where do I post questions dealing with a working installation? I don' t want to force
them on this thread.

Good luck to all those who are about to migrate to kde4!

devsk · Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:55 am Post subject:

cjubon · Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:27 am Post subject:

tampakrap · Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:53 pm Post subject:

devsk · Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject:

cjubon · Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:35 am Post subject:

Sorry

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