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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have put some of my files online, amongst which a XF86Config:

http://users.skynet.be/pjvh/acer/dmesg002.txt
http://users.skynet.be/pjvh/acer/lspci002.txt
http://users.skynet.be/pjvh/acer/mykernelconfig023
http://users.skynet.be/pjvh/acer/XF86Config.mybackup010

It isn't an xorg.conf though. I think there are other XF86Configs in this thread or in the manual thread too. A while ago, there has been some intensive posting here on the X performance and ati drivers topic. Just read back too. I hope this helps you!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@pjv:
I've got a similar problem, on an athlon600 though (my girlfriend's pc). from one day to the other, it would always go blank on first boot, have to press reset everytime. consecutive boots do work flawless, it happens only just after powering on. this is on kernel 2.6.5. the 2.4.2x fallback kernel (you never know...) works flawlessly, but doesn't use fb, so i think it's related to this. recompiling didn't help btw.
i find it rather enervating (so does my girlfriend!), esp. because it worked before without any problems. i think it started appearing after i tried to run a certain usb mouse which is known to bring the 2.6 kernel usb down (see here, and here). i tried the thing mentioned on the kernel mailinglist, system froze, as expected. BUT afterwards the fb problem would appear. coincidence? as i said, i did a recompile which didn't help, so i don't think it has something to do with a damaged kernel image. fscheck didn't find anything either.

i'm going to try out kernel 2.6.7 or later soon, i'll let you know whether it helped. although i got a bad feeling about this after reading your post. :?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ pjv & thepi:
experienced same problem with several kernels:
most mm-patched sources, and some gentoo-dev-sources (2.6.7-r8, 2.6.7-r11, and many older one).
I think it has something to do with local apic and fb, because kernel hangs at:
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ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Edge set to Level Trigger.

or screen simply stays blank (or sometimes it just works for no reason)
I finally decided to give up on fb and boot with kernel option nofb.
(maybe disabling local apic would help too)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are ofcourse many "kernel blank" problems :roll: , but mine is really awkward. I've compiled a 2.6.7-r10 and the problem was gone. Next I've compiled it again (just because I had to), and still, the problem is gone. But I'm shure that if I recompile again it'll be there again :-D. Just a hunch but I would bet on it.

@korban: How did you get that logging? I think mine hangs before logging starts! Btw, I've seen that error before in some threads. Try adding nolapic to your kernel line.

It's really just after grub. I see some big letters for a split second (normal console font) and then nothing. Just at the point where it would normally blank for one second to switch over to a 1400x1050 console. The problem is very illogic though. I can't make sense of it. Seems terribly random to me!


... Also need to add on another topic that the bootsplash_resize script I advised earlier isn't working properly yet :-( (I just wondered why I got a vertical progress bar :?). So manual resizing it is for me...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:35 am    Post subject: local apic Reply with quote

@pjv:
I'd rather miss fb than local apic because of:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=194312&highlight=local+apic
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

korban wrote:
Code:
ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Edge set to Level Trigger.

or screen simply stays blank (or sometimes it just works for no reason)

About "ACPI: Edge Set to Level Trigger": There is a bug report at
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1269 describing this. For a patch, take a look at comment #39, it's a two-liner, easiest to type in yourself. Then it will work with acpi, io-apic and local apic.

About the screen blanking: I had the problem that the screen would blank randomly right after grub. For me it helped to disable fb.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@tuxlover:
thank you, disabling APIC timer solved my apic AND fb issue, so far no more blank screen and
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ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Edge set to Level Trigger.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjv wrote:
I have put some of my files online, amongst which a XF86Config:

http://users.skynet.be/pjvh/acer/dmesg002.txt
http://users.skynet.be/pjvh/acer/lspci002.txt
http://users.skynet.be/pjvh/acer/mykernelconfig023
http://users.skynet.be/pjvh/acer/XF86Config.mybackup010

It isn't an xorg.conf though. I think there are other XF86Configs in this thread or in the manual thread too. A while ago, there has been some intensive posting here on the X performance and ati drivers topic. Just read back too. I hope this helps you!


Does your XF86Config make tapping on the Touchpad work ? Tried some things but couldn't get tapping to work.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had that very problem because I had forgotten to enable CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV (Event interface) :roll:

That could be your problem too :wink:
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

update:

23.07.2004 Added Networking Tools - SSH-Agent and Keychain
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

webmarck wrote:
I had that very problem because I had forgotten to enable CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV (Event interface) :roll:

That could be your problem too :wink:


It was, now it works. Thanks a lot. That should definately be in the Manual Section. I searched the forum and through google and didn't find that info.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:40 pm    Post subject: WikiPedia Reply with quote

As from suggestions on moving on this thread to a Wiki, I submitted this tutorial to Wikipedia for your pleasure. Now everybody can edit, submit and change things. Please be kind with the article, because it took really much time to assemble it.
Here is the link (of course you need a WikiPedia account):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo_Linux_on_an_Acer_Travelmate_803_LCi

P.S.: The article now only contains the TOC because I need to reformat everything to suit the wiki-style format...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:51 pm    Post subject: Re: WikiPedia Reply with quote

_kev_ wrote:
As from suggestions on moving on this thread to a Wiki, I submitted this tutorial to Wikipedia for your pleasure. Now everybody can edit, submit and change things. Please be kind with the article, because it took really much time to assemble it.
Here is the link (of course you need a WikiPedia account):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo_Linux_on_an_Acer_Travelmate_803_LCi

P.S.: The article now only contains the TOC because I need to reformat everything to suit the wiki-style format...


Sounds great. Although the wiki-style format is really a lot different and could take some time to convert to. Editing and Adding of content seems much easier though.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@LcMatrix: Glad your touchpad works now. I had it working without doing much special (Except reading this manual I guess).

My blank screen problem has still not reappeared. I have now recompiled 2.6.7-r10 some 5 times or so, and it still works :-D! Maybe the updated bootsplash did fix it. I looked if the patch presented by tuxlover is present on my system: the second half isn't and it still works (patch suggested on bug page behind link).

Wiki is cool, but I'm not sure if it will be convenient. I like the Gentoo Forum very much: very readable, fast and general handy. I think it pulled many people over to Gentoo (more than the distro itself). Besides (I'm not a real Wiki-er,but...) shouldn't this just be a custom Wiki instead of the Wikipedia? I thought that was an encyclopedia with terms?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjv wrote:
@LcMatrix: Glad your touchpad works now. I had it working without doing much special (Except reading this manual I guess).

My blank screen problem has still not reappeared. I have now recompiled 2.6.7-r10 some 5 times or so, and it still works :-D! Maybe the updated bootsplash did fix it. I looked if the patch presented by tuxlover is present on my system: the second half isn't and it still works (patch suggested on bug page behind link).

Wiki is cool, but I'm not sure if it will be convenient. I like the Gentoo Forum very much: very readable, fast and general handy. I think it pulled many people over to Gentoo (more than the distro itself). Besides (I'm not a real Wiki-er,but...) shouldn't this just be a custom Wiki instead of the Wikipedia? I thought that was an encyclopedia with terms?


I thought about creating a PDF when the updates are in and upload it to my homepage. I think that would be nice - especially for people that want to print the manual (like i did) or don't have internet working but a USB stick/floppy.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look at it, it's finished!
Happy editing !!

BTW: The wiki-style is a lot more easier than the boards, so don't be afraid
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks again for all your efforts, kev! this one really sets some example on how the community can bind their knowledge to improve things.

anyway, pjv is correct, this one should not at all be at wikipedia. wikipedia is meant as an encyclopedia, not a general howto collection, so it is very likely that this entry will be deleted very soon (see discussion).

please don't feel offended, i really like the idea to put this into a wiki (favoured it for a long time already), but wikipedia is just the wrong platform. if everyone used it like that it would soon be clobbered with half-usable tutorials and spam. you wouldn't like to see that in i.e. the brockhaus, or encyclopedia britannica either.

but i know just the place: :) there is a wiki completely focused on gentoo, the gentoo-wiki. it's even based on the same software (mediawiki) as wikipedia, so everyone should be able to use it.

I would be inserting it right there myself, but i feel it is _your_ work, and hence _your_ decision.

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p.s.: any word from the smartcard guys lately?
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p.p.s.: it just came to me, you are aware that by posting it on wikipedia you agreed that your text is GFDL'ed? that's the GPL of text documents, so you know...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yes, I forgot to emphasize that I appreciate very much the time you put into the Wiki thing and the manual in general, _kev_. I'll surely go on editing it there too (but now I haven't got any time unfortunately). And afterall it might still work evenly well. So thanx very much _kev_! 8)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thepi wrote:

...so it is very likely that this entry will be deleted very soon (see discussion).

spread the wisdom :lol:
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but i know just the place: :) there is a wiki completely focused on gentoo, the gentoo-wiki. it's even based on the same software (mediawiki) as wikipedia, so everyone should be able to use it.

came here, read that, done this...
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Gentoo_Acer_Travelmate_803LCi_Manual
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p.s.: any word from the smartcard guys lately?

I wish I had... nothing yet...omnikey is still on hold hence the release should be last month (who thought of that :roll: )
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

_kev_ wrote:
thepi wrote:

...so it is very likely that this entry will be deleted very soon (see discussion).

spread the wisdom :lol:
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but i know just the place: :) there is a wiki completely focused on gentoo, the gentoo-wiki. it's even based on the same software (mediawiki) as wikipedia, so everyone should be able to use it.

came here, read that, done this...
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Gentoo_Acer_Travelmate_803LCi_Manual
Quote:

p.s.: any word from the smartcard guys lately?

I wish I had... nothing yet...omnikey is still on hold hence the release should be last month (who thought of that :roll: )


It seems that it is now where it belongs. I hope the omnikey drivers will be released soon.

BTW: Did you see the ipw2100 section i've added. I hope it is ok the way i wrote it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LcMatrix wrote:

BTW: Did you see the ipw2100 section i've added. I hope it is ok the way i wrote it.


perfect! Keep em coming... :lol:

BTW. We have the biggest page until now... http://gentoo-wiki.com/Special:Longpages


edit: just did some text-flow editing...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

btw, thanks for (finally :wink:) adding me to the "thanx"-section

cheers 8)

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry, wasn't on purpose :roll:
I had trouble keeping track on names...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no you got me wrong actually. i really meant that 'thank you', didn't want to nag on you for forgetting anything (which you didn't imo).

btw i'm trying to get udev to work (no luck so far :( ), will add it to the wiki as soon as it's done.
don't expect anything though (as usual 8))

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes. I'm right now working with udev. It's fairly easy to set up and as soon as I got some spare time, I'll update it.. 8)
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