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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:58 am    Post subject: Poor Video Quality in Linux Reply with quote

Hello. I've been using Gentoo for a year or 2 and it's pretty great, and I'd prefer to use it, but I just have a pretty annoying problem.

Video quality in X11 looks like crap, here's an example, this does NOT appear in screen captures:
http://paulguy.co.uk/HDMI%20Problem%20Sony%20KDL-32XBR6.png

I've dealt with it for a while, and thought it was just my monitor not liking computer signals, since it did the same thing in XP and Vista; but I've recently installed Windows 7 and the problem doesn't occur at all.

My config:
gentoo linux amd64 (same thing happens in x86), all packages up to date.
nvidia geforce 9800GT 512MB running through binary "nvidia" kernel module/X11 driver, connected by a DVI to HDMI converter to:
a Sony KDL-32XBR6 32" LCD television
Resolution is 1920x1080p, 60Hz, native for this display.

I'm not an expert at linux or anything so be kind. :/ If you need any more information, I'll try my best to provide it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a similar setup, but have dual samsung monitors running at 3840x1200, 50Hz. Everything is great.
Did you use a specific program to generate those images? I would like to try it to see what I get.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no specific program, sorry. I just drew them up with kolourpaint. I noticed specific patterns that made my monitor display the poorest images and recreated them.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried a different kernel version? Different nvidia driver? Different monitor? Different cables?
I had a similar experience on one version of the nvidia driver...
I am guessing your hardware is in good shape...
I guess it could be a goofy xorg setting...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried a handful of drivers old and new. Can't go back too far because of the more modern GPU. And yes I've tried different cables, but being digital that wouldn't be much of an issue.
Same deal with a few kernel versions.. 2.6.27 and 2.6.30 that I'm sure of.
Also, thanks for mentioning different monitors. This is where the oddness comes in; This does not happen on my older monitor. Linux shows a clear picture on my older LCD monitor. Same video card, also DVI. I've also had a different video card have the same issue - a geforce 8500GT - clear on one monitor but blurry on the new one.
I know it's not the monitor's fault entirely, though, because it displays a proper image in windows 7.
Also, to remind you, I am using the native resolution and refresh rate.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been about a week and nobody's given my any solutions or things to try or anything. This issue is quite annoying. I know it's possible for my computer to output a proper signal to my TV because Windows 7 looks crisp and clear, but I'd rather use Linux. So, *bump*.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

imanidiot123 wrote:
It's been about a week and nobody's given my any solutions or things to try or anything. This issue is quite annoying. I know it's possible for my computer to output a proper signal to my TV because Windows 7 looks crisp and clear, but I'd rather use Linux. So, *bump*.

post your config (xorg and all nvidia related), maybe it will help us help you
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for responding. Here it is
Code:
# nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
# nvidia-settings:  version 1.0  (root@localhost)  Tue Jul 22 04:49:15 EDT 2008


Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier   "Main Layout"
    Screen   "Screen"
    InputDevice   "Mouse" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice   "Keyboard" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
#    RgbPath         "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/local"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load           "glx"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option         "Xinerama" "0"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Keyboard"
    Driver         "keyboard"
    Option         "XkbRules" "xorg"
    Option         "XkbModel" "macintosh"
    Option         "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Mouse"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "Auto"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "SONY TV"
    HorizSync       30.0-80.0
    VertRefresh     24.0,60.0
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Videocard"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    Option         "RenderAccel" "true"
    Option         "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
    Option         "UseEDIDDpi" "false"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen"
    Device         "Videocard"
    Monitor        "Monitor"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes      "1920x1080" "1280x720" "720x480" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes      "1920x1080" "1280x720" "720x480" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes      "1920x1080" "1280x720" "720x480" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
    Option         "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection


I have the Use EDIDDpi false option there because there's a bug with X11 and my monitor where by default it'll make text 1 pixel tall, in case someone was wondering. Also, I'm not running a macintosh, I just have a macintosh keyboard.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post your xorg log.

It looks to me like the panel is scaling (a non-native resolution).
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it looks like chroma is being scaled, but the pixel "value" isn't. Like the card is sending YUV422 or something.

Code:
X.Org X Server 1.5.3
Release Date: 5 November 2008
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 x86_64
Current Operating System: Linux yay 2.6.30-gentoo-r4 #3 SMP Mon Aug 31 06:01:28 EDT 2009 x86_64
Build Date: 30 August 2009  05:32:26PM
 
   Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
   to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
   (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
   (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Sep  6 21:14:30 2009
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "Main Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor"
(**) |   |-->Device "Videocard"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard"
(**) Option "Xinerama" "0"
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/local" does not exist.
   Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/TTF" does not exist.
   Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/" does not exist.
   Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF" does not exist.
   Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to:
   /usr/share/fonts/misc,
   /usr/share/fonts/Type1,
   /usr/share/fonts/75dpi,
   /usr/share/fonts/100dpi,
   /usr/share/fonts/misc/,
   /usr/share/fonts/Type1/,
   /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/,
   /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/,
   built-ins
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules"
(**) Extension "Composite" is enabled
(WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd' or 'mouse' will be disabled.
(WW) Disabling Mouse
(WW) Disabling Keyboard
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) Loader magic: 0x1200
(II) Module ABI versions:
   X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
   X.Org Video Driver: 4.1
   X.Org XInput driver : 2.1
   X.Org Server Extension : 1.1
(II) Loader running on linux
(++) using VT number 7

(WW) xf86OpenConsole: setpgid failed: Operation not permitted
(WW) xf86OpenConsole: setsid failed: Operation not permitted
(--) PCI:*(0@2:0:0) nVidia Corporation GeForce 9800 GT rev 162, Mem @ 0xfa000000/16777216, 0xd0000000/268435456, 0xf8000000/33554432, I/O @ 0x0000bc00/128, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072
(II) System resource ranges:
   [0] -1   0   0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
   [1] -1   0   0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
   [2] -1   0   0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
   [3] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
   [4] -1   0   0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
   [5] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B]
(II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "record" will be loaded by default.
(II) "dri" will be loaded by default.
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"

(II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
   compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0
   Module class: X.Org Server Extension
   ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"

(II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
   compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0
   Module class: X.Org Server Extension
   ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1
(II) Loading extension SHAPE
(II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
(II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS
(II) Loading extension SYNC
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XC-MISC
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension TOG-CUP
(II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "type1"

(WW) Warning, couldn't open module type1
(II) UnloadModule: "type1"
(EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0)
(II) LoadModule: "freetype"

(WW) Warning, couldn't open module freetype
(II) UnloadModule: "freetype"
(EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0)
(II) LoadModule: "glx"

(II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
   compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
   Module class: X.Org Server Extension
(II) NVIDIA GLX Module  180.60  Mon May 11 15:53:29 PDT 2009
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "record"

(II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
   compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.13.0
   Module class: X.Org Server Extension
   ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "dri"

(II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
   compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0
   ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "nvidia"

(II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so
(II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
   compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
   Module class: X.Org Video Driver
(II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  180.60  Mon May 11 15:33:16 PDT 2009
(II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 02@00:00:0
(II) Loading sub module "fb"
(II) LoadModule: "fb"

(II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules//libfb.so
(II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
   compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0
   ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
(II) Loading sub module "wfb"
(II) LoadModule: "wfb"

(II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules//libwfb.so
(II) Module wfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
   compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0
   ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
(II) Loading sub module "ramdac"
(II) LoadModule: "ramdac"
(II) Module "ramdac" already built-in
(II) resource ranges after probing:
   [0] -1   0   0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
   [1] -1   0   0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
   [2] -1   0   0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
   [3] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
   [4] -1   0   0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
   [5] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B]
(**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
(==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "RenderAccel" "true"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "UseEdidDpi" "false"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration
(II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is
(II) NVIDIA(0):     enabled.
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 9800 GT (G92) at PCI:2:0:0 (GPU-0)
(--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 524288 kBytes
(--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 62.92.63.00.00
(II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 16X
(--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU
(--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce 9800 GT at PCI:2:0:0:
(--) NVIDIA(0):     SONY TV (DFP-1)
(--) NVIDIA(0): SONY TV (DFP-1): 330.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
(--) NVIDIA(0): SONY TV (DFP-1): Internal Dual Link TMDS
(WW) NVIDIA(0): The EDID for SONY TV (DFP-1) contradicts itself: mode
(WW) NVIDIA(0):     "1920x1080" is specified in the EDID; however, the EDID's
(WW) NVIDIA(0):     valid VertRefresh range (58.000-62.000 Hz) would exclude
(WW) NVIDIA(0):     this mode's VertRefresh (24.0 Hz); ignoring VertRefresh
(WW) NVIDIA(0):     check for mode "1920x1080".
(WW) NVIDIA(0): The EDID for SONY TV (DFP-1) contradicts itself: mode
(WW) NVIDIA(0):     "1920x1080" is specified in the EDID; however, the EDID's
(WW) NVIDIA(0):     valid VertRefresh range (58.000-62.000 Hz) would exclude
(WW) NVIDIA(0):     this mode's VertRefresh (24.0 Hz); ignoring VertRefresh
(WW) NVIDIA(0):     check for mode "1920x1080".
(II) NVIDIA(0): Assigned Display Device: DFP-1
(II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes:
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1920x1080"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1280x720"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "720x480"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1280x1024"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1024x768"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "800x600"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "640x480"
(II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1920 x 1080
(==) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (75, 75); computed from built-in default
(==) NVIDIA(0): Enabling 32-bit ARGB GLX visuals.
(--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
(II) do I need RAC?  No, I don't.
(II) resource ranges after preInit:
   [0] -1   0   0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
   [1] -1   0   0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
   [2] -1   0   0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
   [3] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
   [4] -1   0   0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
   [5] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B]
(II) NVIDIA(0): Initialized GPU GART.
(II) NVIDIA(0): ACPI: failed to connect to the ACPI event daemon; the daemon
(II) NVIDIA(0):     may not be running or the "AcpidSocketPath" X
(II) NVIDIA(0):     configuration option may not be set correctly.  When the
(II) NVIDIA(0):     ACPI event daemon is available, the NVIDIA X driver will
(II) NVIDIA(0):     try to use it to receive ACPI event notifications.  For
(II) NVIDIA(0):     details, please see the "ConnectToAcpid" and
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "AcpidSocketPath" X configuration options in Appendix B: X
(II) NVIDIA(0):     Config Options in the README.
(II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1920x1080"
(II) Loading extension NV-GLX
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized
(==) NVIDIA(0): Disabling shared memory pixmaps
(II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture
(==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled
(==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled
(II) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled
(II) Loading extension NV-CONTROL
(II) Loading extension XINERAMA
(==) RandR enabled
(II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
(II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
(II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST
(II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
(II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
(II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
(II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER
(II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR
(II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
(II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
(II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE
(II) Initializing extension GLX
(II) config/hal: Adding input device Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard
(II) LoadModule: "evdev"

(II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/input//evdev_drv.so
(II) Module evdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
   compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 2.1.3
   Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
   ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.1
(**) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: always reports core events
(**) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event4"
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Found keys
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
(II) config/hal: Adding input device Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard
(**) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: always reports core events
(**) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event3"
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Found keys
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
(II) config/hal: Adding input device Logitech USB Gaming Mouse
(**) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: always reports core events
(**) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/event2"
(II) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: Found 16 mouse buttons
(II) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: Found x and y relative axes
(II) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: Configuring as mouse
(**) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Logitech USB Gaming Mouse" (type: MOUSE)
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Close
(II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Close
(II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
(II) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: Close
(II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) NVIDIA(0): Initialized GPU GART.
(II) NVIDIA(0): ACPI: failed to connect to the ACPI event daemon; the daemon
(II) NVIDIA(0):     may not be running or the "AcpidSocketPath" X
(II) NVIDIA(0):     configuration option may not be set correctly.  When the
(II) NVIDIA(0):     ACPI event daemon is available, the NVIDIA X driver will
(II) NVIDIA(0):     try to use it to receive ACPI event notifications.  For
(II) NVIDIA(0):     details, please see the "ConnectToAcpid" and
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "AcpidSocketPath" X configuration options in Appendix B: X
(II) NVIDIA(0):     Config Options in the README.
(II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1920x1080"
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized
(==) NVIDIA(0): Disabling shared memory pixmaps
(II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture
(II) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled
(==) RandR enabled
(II) Initializing extension GLX
[config/dbus] couldn't register object path
(II) config/hal: Adding input device Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard
(**) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: always reports core events
(**) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event4"
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Found keys
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
(II) config/hal: Adding input device Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard
(**) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: always reports core events
(**) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event3"
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Found keys
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
(II) config/hal: Adding input device Logitech USB Gaming Mouse
(**) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: always reports core events
(**) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/event2"
(II) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: Found 16 mouse buttons
(II) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: Found x and y relative axes
(II) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: Configuring as mouse
(**) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
(WW) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: unable to handle keycode 464
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1920x1080"
(II) NVIDIA(0): ACPI: failed to connect to the ACPI event daemon; the daemon
(II) NVIDIA(0):     may not be running or the "AcpidSocketPath" X
(II) NVIDIA(0):     configuration option may not be set correctly.  When the
(II) NVIDIA(0):     ACPI event daemon is available, the NVIDIA X driver will
(II) NVIDIA(0):     try to use it to receive ACPI event notifications.  For
(II) NVIDIA(0):     details, please see the "ConnectToAcpid" and
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "AcpidSocketPath" X configuration options in Appendix B: X
(II) NVIDIA(0):     Config Options in the README.
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Device reopened after 1 attempts.
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Device reopened after 1 attempts.
(II) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: Device reopened after 1 attempts.
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Close
(II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Close
(II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
(II) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: Close
(II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) NVIDIA(0): Initialized GPU GART.
(II) NVIDIA(0): ACPI: failed to connect to the ACPI event daemon; the daemon
(II) NVIDIA(0):     may not be running or the "AcpidSocketPath" X
(II) NVIDIA(0):     configuration option may not be set correctly.  When the
(II) NVIDIA(0):     ACPI event daemon is available, the NVIDIA X driver will
(II) NVIDIA(0):     try to use it to receive ACPI event notifications.  For
(II) NVIDIA(0):     details, please see the "ConnectToAcpid" and
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "AcpidSocketPath" X configuration options in Appendix B: X
(II) NVIDIA(0):     Config Options in the README.
(II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1920x1080"
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized
(==) NVIDIA(0): Disabling shared memory pixmaps
(II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture
(II) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled
(==) RandR enabled
(II) Initializing extension GLX
[config/dbus] couldn't register object path
(II) config/hal: Adding input device Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard
(**) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: always reports core events
(**) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event4"
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Found keys
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
(II) config/hal: Adding input device Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard
(**) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: always reports core events
(**) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event3"
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Found keys
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
(II) config/hal: Adding input device Logitech USB Gaming Mouse
(**) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: always reports core events
(**) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/event2"
(II) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: Found 16 mouse buttons
(II) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: Found x and y relative axes
(II) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: Configuring as mouse
(**) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1920x1080"
(II) NVIDIA(0): ACPI: failed to connect to the ACPI event daemon; the daemon
(II) NVIDIA(0):     may not be running or the "AcpidSocketPath" X
(II) NVIDIA(0):     configuration option may not be set correctly.  When the
(II) NVIDIA(0):     ACPI event daemon is available, the NVIDIA X driver will
(II) NVIDIA(0):     try to use it to receive ACPI event notifications.  For
(II) NVIDIA(0):     details, please see the "ConnectToAcpid" and
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "AcpidSocketPath" X configuration options in Appendix B: X
(II) NVIDIA(0):     Config Options in the README.
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Device reopened after 1 attempts.
(II) Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard: Device reopened after 1 attempts.
(II) Logitech USB Gaming Mouse: Device reopened after 1 attempts.


OK. Ignore the warnings about 24hz mode, I'm not using that. aaaand I've just been too lazy to fix that acpi error.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, I've done some more tests and the colorspace is definitely incorrect. It's sending half resolution chroma data. Now, I know the windows control panel has an option to select colorspace for nvidia cards, but I can't seem to find anything for linux. I looked on google and /usr/share/doc/nvidia-driver-blah/README.bz2 and could not find anything abou changing colorspace in linux; only Windows. So, am I just screwed to have blurry video in linux? This seems like a silly oversight considering the poor choice of default.

Also, I tried nv; same problem.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "UseEdidDpi" "false"
[...cut...]
(==) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (75, 75); computed from built-in default

Have you tested some diffrent value for dpi?
There is a manner to calculate the correct value but I don't remember how, sorry.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The default DPI works well enough, right now. The monitor just sends incorrect EDID data to the video card or something, but that's beside the point.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imanidiot123 wrote:
The monitor just sends incorrect EDID data to the video card or something, but that's beside the point.

That might be a cause of the problems, depending on what the video card and driver thinks it is sending.

I think there's a way to tell X to ignore edid and use what's here instead, but I don't know offhand how to do this. Maybe someone can suggest something.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you try this?
Code:
xdpyinfo | grep dimension

Code:
xdpyinfo | grep resolution

Found here, but there's a lot of threads about font and X.org on gentoo forums.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
yay projects # xdpyinfo | grep dimension
  dimensions:    1920x1080 pixels (650x366 millimeters)
yay projects # xdpyinfo | grep resolution
  resolution:    75x75 dots per inch


Seriously, it's not the resolution. I'm running at the native resolution. I'm not that retarded.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you try to connect it to a real display, without DVI to HDMI converter ?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This stood out to me:
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(WW) NVIDIA(0): The EDID for SONY TV (DFP-1) contradicts itself: mode
(WW) NVIDIA(0):     "1920x1080" is specified in the EDID; however, the EDID's
(WW) NVIDIA(0):     valid VertRefresh range (58.000-62.000 Hz) would exclude
(WW) NVIDIA(0):     this mode's VertRefresh (24.0 Hz); ignoring VertRefresh
(WW) NVIDIA(0):     check for mode "1920x1080".

Searching google for that got me this thread with some suggestions:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/342214?do=post_view_threaded#342214

Particularly:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/342426?do=post_view_threaded#342426
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had already said I tried other monitors and the problem didn't happen on them. And that thread seems to relate to vsync, which has little to do with this. I don't even use the 24hz mode.

EDIT: I noticed another diference. In linux: I got the standard TV controls for tint and sharpness and whatnot on my TV but in Windows 7, they're all greyed out except brightness, contrast and backlight. So there's definitely some difference bwtween how my video card is interfacing with my monitor in linux than in windows. I don't know much about DVI but this seems a bit suspect.

Another EDIT: I've skimmed over bits of the DVI and HDMI specifications and apparently there is support for YCrCb422, and that would make sense based on the quality of picture I'm getting; full resolution luminance signal but half resolution color. Now I need to figure out why the video card decides to send in that color space in linux and how to change that.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried setting the TVStandard option?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry if I missed it, but does that happen with video only, or just viewing the picture too?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe my idea is nonsense but on my monitor i have a sharpness setting and when i set it to be not so sharp it gets a lot of blur. Have you checked yet if it is just a setting on your monitor? Maybe windows 7 has the ability to change your monitor settings and thats the reason why it looks good there.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried not having detailed settings in xorg.conf? My graphics card and monitor works better when X detects settings itself.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TVStandard only seems to be meaningful to the analogue s-video/component output.

This happens for all imagery on the screen, including this firefox window and everything. I'm aware most videos are chroma-subsampled and would have this effect.

The monitor DOES have a sharpness setting, which if it's set to anything but min, produces white lines around everything and never provides any more details.

Also, I've done all kinds of things to my xorg.conf, even removing it entirely.
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