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beandog
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 Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:37 pm Post subject: Gentoo User Statistics -- what packages have you installed? |
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I've already written about this on my blog post and on the webpage itself, so I won't go into too many more details here.
I'm trying to collect statistics of what packages users have installed on their boxes, but I need user submissions to actually get any data.
Please check out http://stats.larrythecow.org/ for instructions on how to add yours, and thanks. 
For the impatient:
curl -d "arch=$(uname -m)&packages=$(eix -I --only-names)" http://stats.larrythecow.org/
Made sticky to encourage production of shiny charts and graphs, which we know is what everyone really wants from this. 
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WooHoo!!!!!
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as@xenon ~ $ curl -d "arch=$(uname -m)&packages=$(eix -I --only-names)" http://stats.larrythecow.org/
Thanks We now have 341 entries.
Version numbers would be cool to see how many people go for unstable versions of certain packages, might give devs an idea which packages might be worth looking into |
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Thanks We now have 347 entries.
Impatient to see the charts in the November gmn ? 
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| Code: | | Thanks :) We now have 810 entries. |
Kinda growing, right?
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any way for people to do it without eix?
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| bunder wrote: | | any way for people to do it without eix? |
Why would you not have eix!?! |
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| AllenJB wrote: | | bunder wrote: | | any way for people to do it without eix? |
Why would you not have eix!?! |
because i'm a lamewad and still use etcat. 
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beandog
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Sheesh, over 1000 uploads. Now I've just got to figure out what kind of stats I want to crunch. Any ideas?
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| beandog wrote: | | Sheesh, over 1000 uploads. Now I've just got to figure out what kind of stats I want to crunch. Any ideas? |
- Top 50 packages over all.
- Top 10 packages in each category.
- Bottom 50 packages over all.
- In particular - are there any packages which apparently no one uses
- Specific package versions that are not used by anybody (or by only a handful - less than 20 for example)
Looking in the long term:
- A script that hooks into portage and will send system changes to your site
- This would probably require some sort of login system, with a secondary system for handling users with more than 1 install
- Some sort of way of showing changes over time
- A "pop charts" type system
- Popularity over time graphs for each package
- Perhaps for each category too - identify which appears to be the most popular desktop environment for example
(Does anyone else wish the forums would understand wiki syntax - for bullet points if nothing else?)
BBCode can handle lists; I took the liberty of editing your post to illustrate. The [List] and [Item] buttons are the ones you're after. Re-edit the post to see how its done.
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| beandog wrote: | | Sheesh, over 1000 uploads. Now I've just got to figure out what kind of stats I want to crunch. Any ideas? |
Vim or Emacs, of course. 
(AllenJB covered the useful ideas.)
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whatever it is, GRAPHS!!!!!
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Relations between packages: Which packages are installed together with which other packages most of the time?
For example via correlation of packages for each user: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation
Naturally the correlation for dependencies should be about 1.0 (if the package is installed, its dependencies are always installed, too), but what about other packages which people currently tediously search by hand?
If several packages (more than 2) are almost always installed together, it might be useful to create a set for them, so users can pull them in more conveniently.
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alistair
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| AllenJB wrote: | - Top 50 packages over all.
- Top 10 packages in each category.
- Bottom 50 packages over all.
- In particular - are there any packages which apparently no one uses
- Specific package versions that are not used by anybody (or by only a handful - less than 20 for example)
Looking in the long term:
- A script that hooks into portage and will send system changes to your site
- This would probably require some sort of login system, with a secondary system for handling users with more than 1 install
- Some sort of way of showing changes over time
- A "pop charts" type system
- Popularity over time graphs for each package
- Perhaps for each category too - identify which appears to be the most popular desktop environment for example
(Does anyone else wish the forums would understand wiki syntax - for bullet points if nothing else?) |
My comments [1].
1) Of the top packages, ain't there going to be packages that everyone has ( like baselayout ). Maybe some packages should be filtered.
2) If you have package version, which ones have outstanding GLSA's ( Tho it would be very inaccurate so maybe we should leave this one alone).
3) Maybe find all text editors and then have stats based on them, ie count, whether there are relationship between text editors. eg. if there a relatonship betwwen system with emacs also having kwrite ( or kate and vim ), etc ,etc
4) how about some information on the number of packages install. ie 0-100: 5; 101-500: 1000;..... 5000+: 2
5) would also be interesting to see patterns within USE flags for packages. ie the different workers for apache
Alistair.
[1] I realise that a lot of this information wouldn't have ben collected, but maybe we could during "phase 2". We could also advertise it before hand and have a really short window ( like a day or less) where everyone can submit their info ( that would help with GLSA's at least. )
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Can you anonymise the data (i.e. IP -> hash over IP+time()) and publicize it, so we can play with it?
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| beandog wrote: | | Sheesh, over 1000 uploads. Now I've just got to figure out what kind of stats I want to crunch. Any ideas? |
Bug statistics for the popular packages, maybe? |
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Tadeas
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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You can take a look here for inspiration, Debian already has it's package popularity contest...
BTW it's 1737 entries there by now... |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Code: | | $ curl -d "arch=$(uname -m)&packages=$(eix -I --only-names)" http://stats.larrythecow.org/ |
Thanks We now have 1742 entries. |
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Kollin
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What are the statistics ?
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: Gentoo User Statistics -- what packages have you install |
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| beandog wrote: |
I'm trying to collect statistics of what packages users have installed on their boxes, but I need user submissions to actually get any data.
Please check out http://stats.larrythecow.org/ for instructions on how to add yours, and thanks.
For the impatient:
curl -d "arch=$(uname -m)&packages=$(eix -I --only-names)" http://stats.larrythecow.org/
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Can you please collect only the world file packages? That way we can tell what packages users actually want, rather than the packages that are forced on them as dependencies. Otherwise, just like the Debian popularity contest, the stats will be dominated by libraries. |
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