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| DigitalCorpus wrote: | | I don't see anythign that would indicate that slow down you mentioned. You did say that time was when you booted to a CD instead of off your hard disk. If you compile glibc now, do you still get fairly lengthy times? |
Nope. Unless you think these last two merges are slow.
I have nothing to compare it to besides the first run and
always thought this was pretty fast.
| Code: | vger ~ # genlop -t glibc
* sys-libs/glibc
Tue Sep 22 15:35:07 2009 >>> sys-libs/glibc-2.10.1
merge time: 1 hour, 58 minutes and 26 seconds.
Tue Sep 22 18:15:39 2009 >>> sys-libs/glibc-2.10.1
merge time: 7 minutes and 39 seconds.
Sun Oct 11 14:29:58 2009 >>> sys-libs/glibc-2.10.1
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__schedule and scheduler_tick are fixed in zen7
http://zen-sources.org/content/zen-sources-2630-zen7
Thanks for reporting
*edit*
And yes, tuxonice is back in zen
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*edit2*
bfs is still broken in 2.6.30, sorry guys - i will get on it as soon as I have time
2.6.31 is majorly stable if you guys wanted to give it a go again (no unfixed bug reports on it atm)
Apparently the same with 2.6.32-rc3 as well (very good raves)
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With latest kernel (tuxonice enabled), closing laptop lid it does not go to sleep. However, if I use the CLI to sleep or the powerdevil plasma UI then it goes to sleep without any problem.
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i haven't been able to build a properly working kernel since 2.6.31-zen1. black screen (with KMS), or lock up when luks was about to open my partition. changing back to cfs and switching preemption settings did not help at all. either a black screen + lockup, or properly working KMS and lockup during bootup (somewhere around udev/luks). i was running zen-stable branch all the time.
in the end i settled for gentoo-sources + aufs2 standalone. that works for me.
if tagged releases will be relatively stable - it might be all good, but i think users should be aware of the possible risks and things breaking. even on zen-stable.
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yoshi314
If you have successfully booted to 2.6.30, or whichever kernel, check to see if /proc/config.gz exists. If it does, do this to see if there is a bug in your kernel config for 2.6.31. This is assuming your 2.6.31 sources are in /usr/src/linu-2.6.31-zen2
| Code: | gzip -d /proc/config.gz -c > /usr/src/linux-2.6.31-zen2/.config
cd /usr/src/linux-2.6.31-zen2/
make oldconfig |
Don't say yes to anything new that pops up. Reselect SLAB, I/O, and Task schedulers as they are presented. After that a regular make is needed and copy your kernel and install modules. After editing your grub.conf and you still don't boot, well you already know teh kernel doesn't work for you. If you've already done this, feel free to ignore me!
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| yoshi314 wrote: | i haven't been able to build a properly working kernel since 2.6.31-zen1. black screen (with KMS), or lock up when luks was about to open my partition. changing back to cfs and switching preemption settings did not help at all. either a black screen + lockup, or properly working KMS and lockup during bootup (somewhere around udev/luks). i was running zen-stable branch all the time.
in the end i settled for gentoo-sources + aufs2 standalone. that works for me.
if tagged releases will be relatively stable - it might be all good, but i think users should be aware of the possible risks and things breaking. even on zen-stable. |
KMS problems have been resolved for awhile
And the lockup problems are resolved (with cfs and bfs) i've stated all these things :\ (This came from what I'd say to be 2.6.32 problems and they are reverted - drm-next is merged into zen which has very nice things - except when it's broken). And if it's not a cpu scheduler problem there is a good chance possibly slqb/bfq (doubtful) - not much else possibility besides those except hardware failure.
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the bug report is still set as NEW, not RESOLVED
And like anything, the early tag releases (zen1, zen2) will be more off than say the later (Zen3+). I'm also beginning to release patches at a more frequent clip for stable.
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New zen kernel released.
2.6.31-zen3
http://zen-sources.org/content/zen-sources-2631-zen3
Very good stuff 
And for yoshi:
The cpu schedulers were fixed at commit 5692deda2c65ef19b303c96c8524dcacb310bc70 (finalized at ddef19594113f081d462dda539ed05a7e2db983c) - on 10/6
drm was fixed at commit 3f149604bbd2bf09f4e2279bdb99507be987bc25 - on 10/8
alsa was fixed at commit 3d899322a173582bc0baffe4316199aa6c76f320 - on 10/9
So try it out if you haven't since then 
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| yoshi314 wrote: | i haven't been able to build a properly working kernel since 2.6.31-zen1. black screen (with KMS), or lock up when luks was about to open my partition. changing back to cfs and switching preemption settings did not help at all. either a black screen + lockup, or properly working KMS and lockup during bootup (somewhere around udev/luks). i was running zen-stable branch all the time.
in the end i settled for gentoo-sources + aufs2 standalone. that works for me.
if tagged releases will be relatively stable - it might be all good, but i think users should be aware of the possible risks and things breaking. even on zen-stable. |
2.6.31-zen3 bfq/bfs/slab/aufs(for /usr/portage)/luks(for 4 different partitions, mainly ext3 inside) without any problems here. there was just a little time-windows when i got that lockups mounting using aufs. luks never was a problem; as reiser4 made my box a buggy bitch with newest kernel i made all reisers (3+4) disappear from my box. also my it87 prob is resolved and i have a really really stable machine now not with anything to complain about.. didn´t try kms for me though.
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there was a time we had unionfs in zen; why did it disappear? at least i´m asking as i recognized after changing my portage-squashfs-script to aufs now my whole /usr/portage gets recompressed on reboot/shutdown, even if there wasn´t any change due to eix or sth.
maybe i missed an option for aufs making it behave like unionfs; if so, there wouldn´t be any further need for me to see unionfs anymore in zen; otherwise i would be happy to see unionfs back again 
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| cheater1034 wrote: | | KMS problems have been resolved for awhile |
no they are not, dont be fooled, kms issues still exist!
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Good point about unionfs, not sure what happened.
I'll merge it in shortly
And about kms, as far as i'm concerned there are no problems with kms so please ignore rmh (sure there may be problems as far as features not being fully implemented or whatever - particularly with nouveau) - but come on. If there were further problems with kms I would revert drm-next and head to vanilla drm and backport nouveau - if anyone has any problems.
As far as i know, there are no problems with kms, but rmh seemed to get upset with me stating there are - yet not telling what problems exist. I'll look into it anyway - if there are problems I'll revert stuff.
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cheater1034,
You said you were the go to guy for bug reports on bfs issues with zen. I have a bug I'd like fixed. It's probably best to do privately. Please contact me and let me know how you want this handled.
Blessed be!
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you´re awesome! 
| cheater1034 wrote: | Good point about unionfs, not sure what happened.
I'll merge it in shortly
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next time im gonna ask you to hide a million dollars for me inside zen and i´m sure this won´t take more than 3 hrs either 
thanks for keeping up great work! |
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| cheater1034 wrote: | | As far as i know, there are no problems with kms, but rmh seemed to get upset with me stating there are - yet not telling what problems exist. I'll look into it anyway - if there are problems I'll revert stuff. |
FYI, on my RS780 with KMS enabled, X will hang when starting. All good without KMS. |
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It's a bit late tonight. I'll pick this up when I get up tomorrow. I still have to test to see if it's an issue with the latest zens.
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| cheater1034 wrote: | New zen kernel released.
2.6.31-zen3
http://zen-sources.org/content/zen-sources-2631-zen3
Very good stuff
And for yoshi:
The cpu schedulers were fixed at commit 5692deda2c65ef19b303c96c8524dcacb310bc70 (finalized at ddef19594113f081d462dda539ed05a7e2db983c) - on 10/6
drm was fixed at commit 3f149604bbd2bf09f4e2279bdb99507be987bc25 - on 10/8
alsa was fixed at commit 3d899322a173582bc0baffe4316199aa6c76f320 - on 10/9
So try it out if you haven't since then |
/me grumbles and goes to git clone zen-stable from scratch ... again :]
i'll give it a shot in a few hours.
@DigitalCorpus - i always have /proc/config.gz support enabled. make menuconfig picks it up automatically on unconfigured kernel sources.
still i find it annoying that zen-stable breaks so badly so often :/
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No, it doesn't. -zen1 was the first release for .31 stable kernel, it's fairly obvious that it will contain some bugs, especially since a lot of people don't bother testing normal zen with -rc kernels, which eventually goes into the stable tree when the kernel goes out of -rc (most of the stuff anyway, we tend to get rid of stuff like wireless-testing since they might cause some grief). So basically the higher the -zenX number, the more stable it should be.
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| yoshi314 wrote: | | cheater1034 wrote: | New zen kernel released.
2.6.31-zen3
http://zen-sources.org/content/zen-sources-2631-zen3
Very good stuff
And for yoshi:
The cpu schedulers were fixed at commit 5692deda2c65ef19b303c96c8524dcacb310bc70 (finalized at ddef19594113f081d462dda539ed05a7e2db983c) - on 10/6
drm was fixed at commit 3f149604bbd2bf09f4e2279bdb99507be987bc25 - on 10/8
alsa was fixed at commit 3d899322a173582bc0baffe4316199aa6c76f320 - on 10/9
So try it out if you haven't since then |
/me grumbles and goes to git clone zen-stable from scratch ... again :]
i'll give it a shot in a few hours.
@DigitalCorpus - i always have /proc/config.gz support enabled. make menuconfig picks it up automatically on unconfigured kernel sources.
still i find it annoying that zen-stable breaks so badly so often :/ |
Not true - you could have used the zen3 patch and saved time
It doesn't break so badly so often, bfs is experimental i suppose, the craze was with cpu schedulers but I toned it down a notch. Also if you have an r500 and are having drm-next issues (or any drm issues) I can revert the drm-next stuff all together in hopes that the broken commit wasn't merged in 2.6.31 upstream (it has been merged in 2.6.32, however.)
I do apologize for breakages in zen-stable, but please understand that we JUST created zen-stable, after we had already made 2.6.31-zen1. It took some time to harden it up a bit (but drm-next will be gone soon, I will backport nouveau) - regardless just because it will make it more stable and match upstream.
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| cheater1034 wrote: | | As far as i know, there are no problems with kms, but rmh seemed to get upset with me stating there are - yet not telling what problems exist. I'll look into it anyway - if there are problems I'll revert stuff. |
Sorry to say that they exist... And it's not just from the latest zen...
I've here a ATI RS690 enabled crappy HP Compaq 6715s which does not go well with KMS enabled...
To be more precise - when KMS is enabled and KDE4 starts it has some freezes when starting konsole or other apps - the desktop is not useable (glxgears drops to some 5 fps...).
Setting nomodeset in kernel boot params resolves this and KDE4 works ok... but without modesetting 
I've here xf86-video-ati and the rest of Xorg stuff from X11 overlay (the -9999 ebuilds).
Also tested with:
1) BFS
2) CFS
3) stable Xorg tree
4) xf86-video-radeonhd
P.S. Yes, I know it's a crappy HP
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| martin.k wrote: | | cheater1034 wrote: | | As far as i know, there are no problems with kms, but rmh seemed to get upset with me stating there are - yet not telling what problems exist. I'll look into it anyway - if there are problems I'll revert stuff. |
Sorry to say that they exist... And it's not just from the latest zen...
I've here a ATI RS690 enabled crappy HP Compaq 6715s which does not go well with KMS enabled...
To be more precise - when KMS is enabled and KDE4 starts it has some freezes when starting konsole or other apps - the desktop is not useable (glxgears drops to some 5 fps...).
Setting nomodeset in kernel boot params resolves this and KDE4 works ok... but without modesetting
I've here xf86-video-ati and the rest of Xorg stuff from X11 overlay (the -9999 ebuilds).
Also tested with:
1) BFS
2) CFS
3) stable Xorg tree
4) xf86-video-radeonhd
P.S. Yes, I know it's a crappy HP |
As i'm aware the drm problems are probably upstream - i know they exist and there is nothing I can do in 2.6.32 (since they are upstream) and i'm reverting to 2.6.31 drm on the stable tree (keeping nouveau though) - and if there are problems there it is also upstream. I will edit when i'm done and you can test zen-stable.
*edit*
yeah, drm-next and nouveau are gone from zen-stable - both for being.... unstable. If someone wants nouveau they can build the module externally (xf86-video-nouveau i think?)
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just tried 2.6.31-zen3
ati kms fills right after init fills the screen with vertical bars. and that's it. oh well.
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| yoshi314 wrote: | just tried 2.6.31-zen3
ati kms fills right after init fills the screen with vertical bars. and that's it. oh well. |
Yeah apparently there is problems with r500 (maybe other cards) - with the upstream drm-next which has been merged in 2.6.32. If you pull your git it will be fixed..... as i removed all traces of drm-next and nouveau
Here's a zen4 patch if you aren't using git: http://omploader.org/vMmpmbA (or you could not use zen and say screw it, either way i dont care) - I guess drm-next will stay out of stable releases from now on.
for 2.6.32 it's upstream and needs to be reported there.
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just curious - what is drm-next/2.6.32 doing in zen-stable? isn't that material for normal zen sources?
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