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Zentoo
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Thanx for the rollback trick Pappy !
| john_r_graham wrote: | Pappy,
You might want to update your howto to liberally sprinkle in the --oneshot option. Your instructions turn an awful lot of things that should just be dependencies into installed packages in the world file.
- John |
You're right, for the point 3, we should have: "emerge -av1 ..." instead of "emerge -av ..."
| Code: | | 3. Follow that with emerge -av1 inputproto fixesproto recordproto scrnsaverproto xf86vidmodeproto bigreqsproto xineramaproto xcmiscproto xextproto libXext libXi libXxf86vm libXtst libXScrnSaver xinput. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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FWIW, I had no trouble at all with the upgrade. Drop to shell,
upgrade xorg, rebuild drivers, reboot (just to be sure). 7.1
really seems smoother and more stable (so far) but this may
be placebo effect (or the newer drivers).
my graphics card is a GeForce 9600 GT.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Zentoo wrote: | | You're right, for the point 3, we should have: "emerge -av1 ..." instead of "emerge -av ..." |
Point 3 and 5, actually. 
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| albright wrote: | FWIW, I had no trouble at all with the upgrade. Drop to shell,
upgrade xorg, rebuild drivers, reboot (just to be sure). 7.1
really seems smoother and more stable (so far) but this may
be placebo effect (or the newer drivers).
my graphics card is a GeForce 9600 GT. |
Great to hear ! But on which arch are you ?
(One have report no problem to upgrade on ~x86 but i'm waiting to have a positive upgrade on ~x86-64)
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albright
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| Quote: | | Great to hear ! But on which arch are you ? |
should have said:
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:21 pm Post subject: missing 3D acceleration since update to xorg-server-1.7.1 |
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I'd done the update yesterday to xorg-server-1.7.1 with an nvidia GeForce 8600 GS.
I used the latest driver from the portage tree after unmasking it.
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
Sadly i lost my 3D acceleration, and so the candy desktop effects and of course google-earth accel.
So i went back today to 1.6.5. 
One unsolved side effect too: The x11-drivers/linuxwacom driver doesn't compile anymore.
I decided to wait a little, until it's more usable for me...
Bye, Andy.
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kiboko
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emerge world is blocked on an ~amd64 host with an ATI card, the xorg-server xorg-drivers ati-drivers-9.10.
On other hosts with nvidia cards, the upgrade block was skipped allowing other packages to update.
Any suggestions on how to clear the block so I can do a emerge world? |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| 190.42 is the official nvidia driver now. Does that change things in this thread? |
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dylix
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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no problems here..
~amd64...
| Code: | [ebuild R ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-190.42-r1 USE="acpi gtk (multilib) -custom-cflags" 0 kB
[ebuild R ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.1 USE="hal ipv6 nptl sdl xorg -debug -dmx -kdrive -minimal -tslib" 0 kB |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| john_r_graham wrote: | Pappy,
You might want to update your howto to liberally sprinkle in the --oneshot option. Your instructions turn an awful lot of things that should just be dependencies into installed packages in the world file.
- John |
And when and if the driver situation is fixed, commenting out the entries in the files listed will bring everything back to "normal".
Blessed be!
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Even more happy news. It seems the new beta version nvidia driver, xorg-server-1.7.1, and core-too do get along. I'm happy to report that my GeForce 7300 is ok with the new driver. Somehow, I get the feeling the same won't apply to bam-bam's GeForce FX 5200. I may try, but on the other hand...I may just ignore it.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Pappy it appears that the FX 5200 series is still stuck with the 173 drivers
Link to page with supported nvidia chips on the 190.42 driver
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_190.42.html
and click on "supported products" tab
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Any hope for ati-drivers? Do not see any newer masked version then x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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referring to the nvidia-driver versions, cardoe posted this nice chart in his blog :
| Quote: | driver series maximum ABI
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71.86.* 2.x
96.43.* 5.x
173.14.* 5.x
190.* 6.x
xorg server video ABI
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1.7.* 6.x
1.6.* 5.x
1.5.* 2.x |
http://blog.cardoe.com/archives/2009/10/29/nvidia-drivers-and-xorg-server-compatiblity/
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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what about GeForce 8600 GT on x86-64?
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Autie wrote: | | what about GeForce 8600 GT on x86-64? |
I use a 7300 on x86_64, works great with the latest xorg. Just unmask the beta nvidia-drivers and change 1.6.99 to 1.7.99 in the ebuild. Also make sure you rebuild all of your drivers. I had to login via ssh and rebuild evdev  |
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dmpogo
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Anon-E-moose wrote: | Pappy it appears that the FX 5200 series is still stuck with the 173 drivers
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It is not still stuck, it is stuck forever. Nividia is not implementing support for older cards in the newer drivers once it moves them into legacy status. |
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I'm curious, before I do a major upgrade (looks that way to me, with the pretend option)
What real benefits are their going from 1.6.5 to 1.7.1?
I don't care about multi pointers, as I use a single monitor, single user.
Any performance increases?
Any problems with programs not working right?
Does it kill things like wine, etc?
Thanks for any answers.
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| I have lost acceleration / desktop effects (in KDE4) as well after upgrading xorg. As it turned out, the opengl implementation has been switched to xorg from nvidia during the upgrade. So all I had to do was switching it back through |
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| I've updated this afternoon (after having waited for a couple of days until the weekend to do all the major updates [xorg, nvidia, gnome] in case of complications) and apart from me loosing keyboard + mouse in X11 (drivers needed to be recompiled via emerge -1v $(qlist -IC x11-drivers) all worked out quite well. |
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| Anon-E-moose wrote: | I'm curious, before I do a major upgrade (looks that way to me, with the pretend option)
Any performance increases?
Any problems with programs not working right?
Does it kill things like wine, etc?
Thanks for any answers. |
x11-drivers/linuxwacom doesnt compile against 1.7.1. Seems there's some solution on bugzilla, have to test bit later.
Very annoying problem for me is that gimp crashes whole damn desktop. In gnome and in kde. I cant reproduce how gimp does it, seems completely random. Sometimes it just is there for like 5-10minutes without anything and all the sudden it dies and gets whole xorg with it. This with: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-190.42-r1 also it seemed mplayer managed to crash whole desktop few times under gnome. revdep-rebuild and rebuilding gimp did not help. Maybe i need to recompile whole set again just to be sure everything is properly set.
What comes to speed. Well i have not seen a speed up. Sometimes it feels things might be a bit faster, but it might be just psychological thing.
*UPDATE*
Well after writing those comments, i rechecked the packages and for some reason linuxwacom showed it was installed (i don't even want to guess). I removed it, rebooted. And seems i can't make gimp to crash xorg anymore. So seems it was my faulty setup that caused it, unless gimp is playing some funky trickery and crashes just after i press submit |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
| devsk wrote: | | 190.42 is the official nvidia driver now. Does that change things in this thread? |
I just made a update world --deep of my system and was stopped by this problem. After unmasking nvidia-drivers-190.42-r2 it compiled and xorg-server-1.7.1 started without problem...
edit: however the nvidia-settings-190.42 still do not compile... therefore nvidia-drivers have to be compiled with USE="-gtk"!
My graphic card is based on NV40 GeForce 6800 (not the machine in the sig).
Peter
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| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Thank jsn, that is the kind of feedback that I was looking for.
I think I'll just hold at 1.6.5 for now.
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mkyral
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| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| jsn wrote: |
x11-drivers/linuxwacom doesnt compile against 1.7.1. Seems there's some solution on bugzilla, have to test bit later.
Very annoying problem for me is that gimp crashes whole damn desktop. In gnome and in kde. I cant reproduce how gimp does it, seems completely random. Sometimes it just is there for like 5-10minutes without anything and all the sudden it dies and gets whole xorg with it. This with: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-190.42-r1 also it seemed mplayer managed to crash whole desktop few times under gnome. revdep-rebuild and rebuilding gimp did not help. Maybe i need to recompile whole set again just to be sure everything is properly set.
What comes to speed. Well i have not seen a speed up. Sometimes it feels things might be a bit faster, but it might be just psychological thing.
*UPDATE*
Well after writing those comments, i rechecked the packages and for some reason linuxwacom showed it was installed (i don't even want to guess). I removed it, rebooted. And seems i can't make gimp to crash xorg anymore. So seems it was my faulty setup that caused it, unless gimp is playing some funky trickery and crashes just after i press submit |
I have the same problem with gimp and I don't have and never had linuxwacom installed. I'm trying recompile all x11 drivers and gimp. Will see. |
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