The F? Virtual Window Manager

Chickpea · l33t Joined: 03 Jun 2002 Posts: 846 Location: Vancouver WA

Has anyone here tried using fvwm-menu-desktop to build menus?

I tried to build one based on the man page but I am only able to build the kde-sys menu and it comes up in a language other than my own.

I like the idea of this menu building thing and it would be cool if fvwm had some sort of ability to create menus such as this.

How does KDE know which apps to put in a menu that are "legacy" apps?

Thanks

taviso · Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 12:05 pm Post subject:

taviso · Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: fvwm-menu-desktop?

Lonely-Star · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 82

The "grow" argument works great. It even respects the Taskbar

Thanks, Tavis.

Chickpea · l33t Joined: 03 Jun 2002 Posts: 846 Location: Vancouver WA

z33k · n00b Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Posts: 34 Location: Norwood, MA

Hey taviso,

I've downloaded your .fvwm2rc file and have been playing with it. I don't ahve any of the icons that go in the menu though, are they part of the fvwm_icons package or did you get them elsewhere? If you got them elsewhere, could you tell me where to get them?

Thanks,
Z33k

Edit ~
One other question, Where do I edit the config so that the menu pops up when I press the right mouse button, not the left?

taviso · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 5:24 pm Post subject:

Roptaty · Apprentice Joined: 12 May 2002 Posts: 184 Location: Norway

Darn.. HiddenConsole, an irssi inside and an OSD script to go with the irssi...

And don't forget the stroke commands...

taviso, you are to blame for this. You have converted another one (me) to your little 'fvwm-against-the-rest' war. I hope you are satisfied.

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tr4nce · n00b Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 68 Location: Argentina

Hello, I want to add HiddenConsole to my fvwm-crystal desktop (click to see) but the script doesn't work correctly... How do i do to make it work?

Thanks

chrisashton84 · Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 10:11 am Post subject:

Hey taviso, I downloaded your .fvwm2rc (as has 1/2 the people here it seems

thanks btw). Anyway, I did a few quick changes and I was wondering if you might be able to help:

http://www.chrisashton84.com/files/fvwm-2-15-04.jpg

http://www.chrisashton84.com/files/.fvwm2rc-2-15-04

A few things, yes. First, why are the icons on the desktop like that (I haven't touched that area of the config). I was assuming it would show real screenshots of the windows but instead it shows the icon, if it has one. Note the rxvt icon is just a miniature block of text, completely useless as it is.

Second, I added a menu item to change the background pic using:

taviso · Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 10:41 am Post subject:

chrisashton84 · Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 8:30 pm Post subject:

Thanks, almost got it working just right - I had to change the background changing program because it didn't work with transparencies. Now I'm using

z33k · n00b Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Posts: 34 Location: Norwood, MA

Hey taviso, I have been messing around with your config and slowly im getting Fvwm to play like I want.

Couple issues though, I dont have any buttons on my window title bars. I left that part of the config uncommented though. Im assuming it is the part where you talk about the vectors and there is an ascii picture of the window titles. What am I dont wrong? If I need to post my config I can, I just didnt want to take up all the space if I dont need to.

Second, when a window is thumbnailed and dethumbnailed is there a way to slow the animation down a bit? I like eye candy, but i have a fast machine and it goes by so fast i can barely see the flipping!

Thanks for the help so far. I'm liking fvwm more and more every day. I never thought that possible! haha I used to laugh if people said they used fvwm. no more!

-=Josh=-

taviso · Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:01 pm Post subject:

taviso · Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 3:25 pm Post subject:

z33k · n00b Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Posts: 34 Location: Norwood, MA

I am stumped as to why I don't see any buttons on the window title bars. Ive read through some of the man page, though that is a lot of info to get through all at once.

Ive left the button part of your config pretty much untouched taviso. Here is the section below:

Pestlett · n00b Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Posts: 19 Location: Liverpool, UK

I have just tried using Fvwm and while it is hard, I have to admit that this has been my favourite wm, ever!!
Not only can it be optimised perfectly for speed and beauty, you also get a great satifaction when you see it run. So far I have created some basic scripts by looking at what other people have scripted. The most helpful was by Tavis Ormandy.
I was wondering if anyone else had any extra things that they have done that looks cool, and if you could please post it on here. A lot of the old links are now broken

.

Thanks
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appetitus · Apprentice Joined: 28 Sep 2003 Posts: 210

Well, your post got me to finally start giving up old faithful 1.24 fvwm. Since I started back in the 1.1.41 kernel days and worked out X long, long ago, I never bothered upgrading fvwm since it worked fine, fast, and faithfully. Most window managers nowdays are full of fluff, so no real need to upgrade IMO.

About the only problem was that fvwm-convert-2.2 wasn't installed and I needed to manually build fvwm2 in order to convert my old rc file. Looks like SmartPlacement has been improved for congested desktops. That might have been worth the upgrade, but usually I have plenty of space via the Pager.

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Speaking of the old days, I recall that several years ago someone was working on smarter popups. The idea is to minimize the mouse travel from the time when you first initiate a menu selection (generally when you left click on the background) to release on the desired program. Currently selections follow the one dimensional list paradigm (i.e. you move only up to down some list, meaning there are only two choices immediately possible), but this old idea had a octagonal structure, so you could move 8 ways instead. There was an effort to put it into fvwm 2.2 as I recall. Here's an example:

TheEternalVortex · Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:52 pm Post subject:

What do you guys use for your left/middle/right click on the desktop?
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mtj · Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 11:55 am Post subject:

Using no taskbar-module (admittedly I fell in love with fvwm and Linux in general when I found out how to switch off that abomination

):
left: utilities/applications menu
middle: window operations
right: window list

taviso · Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:00 pm Post subject:

left: root menu
middle: windowlist
right: mouse gestures

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tarsh · Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:07 pm Post subject:

Just thought I share my Fvwm setup with the rest of you, just started so have not written that many tweaks yet. Most ideas has come from reading taviso's setup. But I'll keep on perfecting and testing different setups. So far Fvwm has given me headaches and the feeling of satisfaction when I managed to get some features working.

Thanks taviso for the Thumbnailing functions, Thanks Wedge_ for the processlist function.

Screenshot
.fvwm2rc
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BobDylan · Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:25 pm Post subject: about fvwm-menu-headlines

I would like to setup fvwm-menu-directory to work with advancemame.
Let me explain myself:

I have a rom directory $HOME/games/roms
populated with *.zip rom files

To launch advancemame you have to type "advmame myrom" where myrom is the name of the *.zip file without the .zip extension.

Since fvwm-menu-directory works with absolute paths, I'm unable to use it for browsing and launching my roms (advancemame hangs when you issue "advmame $HOME/games/roms/myrom.zip), but I don't want to build a static menu because the content of my "roms" directory changes very often.

Any help would be appreciated. :wink:

*EDIT* replaced fvwm-menu-headlines with fvwm-menu-directory, what a dumb mistake...