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taviso Retired Dev
Joined: 15 Apr 2003 Posts: 261 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Flow_NTC wrote: | i got a little problem when starting gdesklets:
it starts properly but the displays are not transparent
i set no background in the config, but still there is a purple like background behind the display, what makes gdesklets looking very stupid
ps: on kde there is no such problem. perfectly working there |
The kind of root transparency used by apps like gdesklets relies on a pixmap being published so it knows what the root window looks like..if you have used xsetroot or something like that, prperties like ESETROOT_PMAP_ID are not set, so the transparency doesnt work. (check out the fvwm-root man page in the description of the --retain-pixmap option for more about this), or if you are a programmer you can read a technical description about it and the advantages of this method here.
apparently kde will take care of this for you (if you dont use any applications that rely on the pixmap being published, doesnt that waste loads of memory?...seems like a lot of waste for some small convenience )
anyway, if you emerge xv you get a cool little utility called bggen that will make solid or gradient pixmaps (it's very configurable) suitable for using with fvwm-root...should solve your problems
Alternatively, use FvwmBacker and setup a colorset to do it, and set the RetainPixmap option. _________________ --------------------------------------
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Wedge_ Advocate
Joined: 08 Aug 2002 Posts: 3614 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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I've been trying to get the mplayer control window to move to the bottom right of the screen each time it's opened, but it just will not work. I'm using the method from the fvwm FAQ that monitors new windows with FvwmEvent, and I can get it to work fine with other apps, but it has no effect on mplayer for some reason. Anyone know what's going wrong? _________________ Per Ardua Ad Astra
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jasonou Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Is there any advantage in defining colorsets with FvwmTheme? _________________ sn41g2, nForce2 Mobo, 512 RAM, 1800+ Athlon XP |
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hrnick Guru
Joined: 31 Aug 2002 Posts: 425 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Wedge_ wrote: | I've been trying to get the mplayer control window to move to the bottom right of the screen each time it's opened, but it just will not work. I'm using the method from the fvwm FAQ that monitors new windows with FvwmEvent, and I can get it to work fine with other apps, but it has no effect on mplayer for some reason. Anyone know what's going wrong? |
I'm using the following to make mplayer start in the top right corner of my screen. I don't use the mplayer gui myself, but if I run gmplayer it will start in the same corner. The only problem is that the file select dialog and the video window will start in the same place
Code: | Module FvwmEvent FvwmEvent
*FvwmEvent: Cmd
*FvwmEvent: PassId
*FvwmEvent: Add_window NewWindowEvent
AddToFunc NewWindowEvent
+ I WindowId $0 ( "MPlayer" ) Move -0 0 |
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Fitzsimmons Guru
Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 415 Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:00 am Post subject: Window and Button colors |
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I've got my inactive windows looking something like this:
http://fitz.homelinux.org/temp/aterm-inactive.png
When activated, I want them to look exactly the same except for the title and the buttons to be white instead of grey. Right now, I'm getting something like this:
http://fitz.homelinux.org/temp/aterm-active.png
I also don't like getting those lines inbetween the buttons. Here's my makeshift, jury-rigged, hardly-commented and probably error-ridden config file:
http://fitz.homelinux.org/temp/fvwm2rc
Yes, I have all sorts of colorsets and things that are not being used... I plan on cleaning all that up when everything is working.
Thanks for any help |
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dh3rm3 Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 101
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:30 am Post subject: Re: Window and Button colors |
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ssjf wrote: | I've got my inactive windows looking something like this:
http://fitz.homelinux.org/temp/aterm-inactive.png
When activated, I want them to look exactly the same except for the title and the buttons to be white instead of grey. Right now, I'm getting something like this:
http://fitz.homelinux.org/temp/aterm-active.png
I also don't like getting those lines inbetween the buttons. Here's my makeshift, jury-rigged, hardly-commented and probably error-ridden config file:
http://fitz.homelinux.org/temp/fvwm2rc
Yes, I have all sorts of colorsets and things that are not being used... I plan on cleaning all that up when everything is working.
Thanks for any help |
I got the same problem when adapting from taviso's fvwm2rc
Anyway try this , ( except for the colorset, fill with your owns )
It should remove the lines
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DestroyDecor DefaultDecor
AddToDecor DefaultDecor
+ TitleStyle LeftJustified Height 12
+ TitleStyle InActive ( Colorset 8 -- Flat ) \
Active ( Colorset 8 -- Flat )
+ ButtonStyle All InActive ( Colorset 8 -- Flat )
+ ButtonStyle All Active ( Colorset 8 -- Flat )
+ AddButtonStyle 4 ActiveUp Vector 7 30x30@3 30x60@3 60x60@3 60x30@3 \
30x30@3 30x35@3 60x35@3 -- Flat
+ AddButtonStyle 4 Inactive Vector 7 30x30@3 30x60@3 60x60@3 60x30@3 \
30x30@3 30x35@3 60x35@3 -- Flat
+ AddButtonStyle 4 ActiveDown Vector 2 35x35@2 35x65@2 65x65@2 65x35@2 \
35x35@2 35x40@2 65x40@2 -- Flat
+ AddButtonStyle 1 Inactive Vector 4 44x44@3 44x45@3 45x45@3 44x44@3 -- Flat
+ AddButtonStyle 1 ActiveUp Vector 4 44x44@2 44x45@2 45x45@2 44x44@2 -- Flat
+ AddButtonStyle 1 ActiveDown Vector 4 49x49@2 49x50@2 50x50@2 49x49@2 -- Flat
+ AddButtonStyle 6 ActiveUp Vector 5 30x60@3 60x60@3 60x50@3 30x50@3 30x60@3 -- Flat
+ AddButtonStyle 6 Inactive Vector 5 30x60@3 60x60@3 60x50@3 30x50@3 30x60@3 -- Flat
+ AddButtonStyle 6 ActiveDown Vector 5 30x60@3 60x60@3 60x50@3 30x50@3 30x60@3 -- Flat
+ AddButtonStyle 2 ActiveUp Vector 4 30x30@2 60x60@2 60x30@4 30x60@2 -- Flat
+ AddButtonStyle 2 Inactive Vector 4 30x30@3 60x60@3 60x30@4 30x60@3 -- Flat
+ AddButtonStyle 2 ActiveDown Vector 4 35x35@2 65x65@2 65x35@4 35x65@2 -- Flat
+ ButtonStyle 1 - MwmDecorMenu
+ ButtonStyle 6 - MwmDecorMin
+ ButtonStyle 4 - MwmDecorMax
Style * UseDecor DefaultDecor
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Jesco n00b
Joined: 28 Oct 2002 Posts: 37 Location: Hamburg, Germany
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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I tried my hands again at fvwm. I used taviso's config, stole some bits from ikaro (his cool popup menu) and changed the colors to my liking. I have, however, a couple of problems:
- When I first start fvwm, the windows do not responds to keyboard/mouse input (they are focused, though). The FvwmButton Bar doesn't respond neither. I have to first select a window from the WindowList.
- Thumbnails only start working when I restart fvwm.
- I cannot use special characters like backslash et al. When I press alt-gr a small blue windows pops up.
Does anybody have an idea. I'm a bit stuck on these and could need a helping pointer. _________________ My reason for Linux: Elegance. |
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Wedge_ Advocate
Joined: 08 Aug 2002 Posts: 3614 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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henrik wrote: | Wedge_ wrote: | I've been trying to get the mplayer control window to move to the bottom right of the screen each time it's opened, but it just will not work. I'm using the method from the fvwm FAQ that monitors new windows with FvwmEvent, and I can get it to work fine with other apps, but it has no effect on mplayer for some reason. Anyone know what's going wrong? |
I'm using the following to make mplayer start in the top right corner of my screen. I don't use the mplayer gui myself, but if I run gmplayer it will start in the same corner. The only problem is that the file select dialog and the video window will start in the same place
Code: | Module FvwmEvent FvwmEvent
*FvwmEvent: Cmd
*FvwmEvent: PassId
*FvwmEvent: Add_window NewWindowEvent
AddToFunc NewWindowEvent
+ I WindowId $0 ( "MPlayer" ) Move -0 0 |
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That's the kind of thing I was trying to do, but it just doesn't work for some reason. I can get it to pick out the MPlayer window correctly, and if I use a command like "WarpToWindow", it does that alright. However, if I try to use "Move", it just ignores it. I even tried opening FvwmConsole, typing "Move 100p 100p" and selecting the window directly and it still didn't work. _________________ Per Ardua Ad Astra
The Earth is the cradle of the mind, but we cannot live forever in a cradle - Konstantin E. Tsiolkovsky
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Flow_NTC n00b
Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Posts: 23 Location: Hamburg (Germany)
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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jeah go that transparent stuff working
but now i have a crazy problem i set:
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Style gdesklets NoTitle,NoHandles,!Borders,WindowListSkip,CirculateSkip,StaysOnBottom,ParentalRelativity
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but gdesklet has still borders and stuff like that....somebody got an idea? |
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BobDylan Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Posts: 135 Location: On The Road
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Taviso wrote: | You arent limited to using a WindowList, there are hundreds of other techniques, like Wedge_'s Circulate binding above, or a Transient Pager, or FvwmProxy (totally rocks, try it), or hundreds of variations of them and other alternatives. I already have a menu that shows screenshots of open windows, and allows you to pick one, I'm also working on a OSX expose style function, using a compination of FvwmEvent and Iconify. |
Well, Taviso, are you preparing a new FVWM Revolution ?
I wonder what secret treasures you've put in your new config file...
Wedge_ wrote: | That's the kind of thing I was trying to do, but it just doesn't work for some reason. I can get it to pick out the MPlayer window correctly, and if I use a command like "WarpToWindow", it does that alright. However, if I try to use "Move", it just ignores it. I even tried opening FvwmConsole, typing "Move 100p 100p" and selecting the window directly and it still didn't work. |
This kind of thing works only if I specify MPlayer* instead of MPlayer in my config file.
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Wedge_ Advocate
Joined: 08 Aug 2002 Posts: 3614 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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BobDylan wrote: | Wedge_ wrote: | That's the kind of thing I was trying to do, but it just doesn't work for some reason. I can get it to pick out the MPlayer window correctly, and if I use a command like "WarpToWindow", it does that alright. However, if I try to use "Move", it just ignores it. I even tried opening FvwmConsole, typing "Move 100p 100p" and selecting the window directly and it still didn't work. |
This kind of thing works only if I specify MPlayer* instead of MPlayer in my config file. |
Where do you mean? _________________ Per Ardua Ad Astra
The Earth is the cradle of the mind, but we cannot live forever in a cradle - Konstantin E. Tsiolkovsky
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BobDylan Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Posts: 135 Location: On The Road
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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Wedge_ wrote: | BobDylan wrote: | Wedge_ wrote: | That's the kind of thing I was trying to do, but it just doesn't work for some reason. I can get it to pick out the MPlayer window correctly, and if I use a command like "WarpToWindow", it does that alright. However, if I try to use "Move", it just ignores it. I even tried opening FvwmConsole, typing "Move 100p 100p" and selecting the window directly and it still didn't work. |
This kind of thing works only if I specify MPlayer* instead of MPlayer in my config file. |
Where do you mean? |
+ I WindowId $0 ( "MPlayer*" ) Move -0 0
or Style MPlayer* |
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Fitzsimmons Guru
Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 415 Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: Window and Button colors |
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dh3rm3 wrote: | ssjf wrote: | I've got my inactive windows looking something like this:
http://fitz.homelinux.org/temp/aterm-inactive.png
When activated, I want them to look exactly the same except for the title and the buttons to be white instead of grey. Right now, I'm getting something like this:
http://fitz.homelinux.org/temp/aterm-active.png
I also don't like getting those lines inbetween the buttons. Here's my makeshift, jury-rigged, hardly-commented and probably error-ridden config file:
http://fitz.homelinux.org/temp/fvwm2rc
Yes, I have all sorts of colorsets and things that are not being used... I plan on cleaning all that up when everything is working.
Thanks for any help |
I got the same problem when adapting from taviso's fvwm2rc
Anyway try this , ( except for the colorset, fill with your owns )
It should remove the lines
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That almost works, however it seems that the 'x' (button 2) is taking different coloring instructions than all of the other buttons. The title and other buttons will turn white when the window is active, but the x turns black. What's going on with that? |
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Wedge_ Advocate
Joined: 08 Aug 2002 Posts: 3614 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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BobDylan wrote: | + I WindowId $0 ( "MPlayer*" ) Move -0 0
or Style MPlayer* |
OK, I'll try that. _________________ Per Ardua Ad Astra
The Earth is the cradle of the mind, but we cannot live forever in a cradle - Konstantin E. Tsiolkovsky
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aaronjb Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 106 Location: Berkshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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I've been trying to work out if something in particular is possible with FvwmPager now for a little while, but it's escaping me (not hard )..
I'm using the fvwm-crystal config, slightly modified so far to suit me better, but I'd really like the iconbox & Pager to display tiny thumbnails of the windows (I know, miniscule thumbnails!) instead of the 16x16 icons.. Is that possible?
Thanks
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BobDylan Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Posts: 135 Location: On The Road
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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aaronjb wrote: | I'm using the fvwm-crystal config, slightly modified so far to suit me better, but I'd really like the iconbox & Pager to display tiny thumbnails of the windows (I know, miniscule thumbnails!) instead of the 16x16 icons.. Is that possible? |
Taviso has posted an example config to achieve that on the Fvwm mailing list.
Look at http://www.hpc.uh.edu/fvwm/archive/0403/msg00188.html |
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bravenoob n00b
Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 14
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:20 am Post subject: |
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ok fvwm zealots. Convince me to switch. I just emerged fvwm 2.4.18 and it is the ugliest thing I have ever seen since WinXPs Luna. A lot of the screenshots look beautiful though. Direct me to (or write) a guide/howto on how to make fvwm usable for the someone like me (that would be intermediate/power-user). |
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kalisphoenix Apprentice
Joined: 28 Sep 2003 Posts: 211 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:38 am Post subject: |
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A brave noob indeed... |
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usingloser Apprentice
Joined: 18 May 2003 Posts: 297 Location: ->Here<-
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:49 am Post subject: |
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bravenoob wrote: | ok fvwm zealots. Convince me to switch. I just emerged fvwm 2.4.18 and it is the ugliest thing I have ever seen since WinXPs Luna. A lot of the screenshots look beautiful though. Direct me to (or write) a guide/howto on how to make fvwm usable for the someone like me (that would be intermediate/power-user). |
first thing you want to do is
Code: | ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge fvwm |
You then can look at this fvwm2rc
http://ikaro.homepage.dk/fvwm/files/fvwm2rc
or a link to taviso's, I just don't have it handy right now _________________ gentoo 4tw |
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freedrivee n00b
Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 7
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
after read this Thread i setup a fvwm system. I have only two questions left.
1. When i thumbnail my windows, i don't have a text under the thumbnails. What have i to configure to enable this?
2. When i switch the active windows via ALT+TAB the windows are bring to focus. I have set up keys to move the windows to other desktops. But whenever i switch to an other window, my mouse pointer follows. How can i disable this feature? I want to leave the mouse where it is.
Thanks. |
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Mongrol Guru
Joined: 14 Sep 2002 Posts: 376
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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2. When i switch the active windows via ALT+TAB the windows are bring to focus. I have set up keys to move the windows to other desktops. But whenever i switch to an other window, my mouse pointer follows. How can i disable this feature? I want to leave the mouse where it is.
Thanks. |
aaaarrgh! |
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freedrivee n00b
Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 7
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Ups, forget about the second.
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Keffin Apprentice
Joined: 14 Feb 2004 Posts: 202 Location: England
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, I've finally taken the plunge and emerged fvwm (2.5.8r6) and my first problem is a file manager... I have Gnome installed and use nautilus usually, but starting that up in fvwm gives me my Gnome wallpaper and the Gnome right click menu on the desktop. When I close nautilus I lose the Gnome desktop menu and get the fvwm one back, but I keep the wallpaper.
Is there a way of stopping these things from happening when I start nautilus? Or secondary to that can anybody suggest another file manager that doesn't need QT/KDE libs and does all the pretty thumbnail stuff like nautilus. I emerged gentoo (if only it worked for the distro ) which is okay but both ugly and lacking thumbnails.
I have plenty more questions but when I'm comfortable with a file manager I'd like to rtfm for a change . _________________ Always cut the deck if it ups your odds. |
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Jesco n00b
Joined: 28 Oct 2002 Posts: 37 Location: Hamburg, Germany
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Keffin wrote: | Hi, I've finally taken the plunge and emerged fvwm (2.5.8r6) and my first problem is a file manager... I have Gnome installed and use nautilus usually, but starting that up in fvwm gives me my Gnome wallpaper and the Gnome right click menu on the desktop. When I close nautilus I lose the Gnome desktop menu and get the fvwm one back, but I keep the wallpaper.
Is there a way of stopping these things from happening when I start nautilus? |
That's an easy one. Try nautilus --no-desktop. _________________ My reason for Linux: Elegance. |
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