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n4is3n
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ndse2112
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The live DVD does not have an installer.
Browse to http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/ and read the pertinent handbook for your architecture. The speed your machine (as you compile everything) and your understanding of the process are the two largest variables in determining how quickly you can get a basic gentoo installation working. |
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n4is3n
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gerard27
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Judging from the sites in your sig so far you have used "binary" distro's.
By binary I mean the software has already been compiled for you.
Gentoo is entirely different!
You do need an internet connection to download the source code.
The source codes are then compiled into binaries by your computer for your specific architecture.
I don't want to disencourage you but on a P4 and 512MB RAM this will take days!
The live cd can be used to install Gentoo but it does not contain the binaries to make an install.
Please read the Gentoo Handbook as already suggested.
The big advantage of Gentoo over binary distro's are twofold:
Once installed upgrading is accomplished by regularly downloading new versions of individual programs
rather than doing a complete reinstall like with binary distro's.
The programs you compile are optimized for your system.
And you learn much more about Linux.
Gerard.
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To install Gentoo I use sysrescuecd.Based on Gentoo,has firefox to browse Gentoo docs and mc to browse (and edit) files.
The same disk can be used for 32 and 64 bit installs.
You can follow the Handbook verbatim.
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n4is3n
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gerard27
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Please read the Handbook.
You cannot install Gentoo without an internet connection.
In my sig is a link to rescuecd.
It's much better to install Gentoo.
Gerard.
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To install Gentoo I use sysrescuecd.Based on Gentoo,has firefox to browse Gentoo docs and mc to browse (and edit) files.
The same disk can be used for 32 and 64 bit installs.
You can follow the Handbook verbatim.
http://www.sysresccd.org/Download |
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cach0rr0
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| n4is3n wrote: | | so gentoo will ask for your internet connection while doing the installation? |
while it is technically possible, if you have never done a gentoo install before, it will add an unnecessary level of complexity to the installation process
note that you will need an internet connection *somewhere* in order to get the files to install.
But you could in theory download the files you need on another computer, copy them to a thumb drive, connect the thumb drive to your gentoo box, and then copy those files into /usr/portage/distfiles
But again this will be unnecessarily complex if you're not already fairly familiar with the gentoo installation process.
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gentoo-dev
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| n4is3n wrote: | | but i have LiveDVD 10.1 with installer... |
No, you don't. What you have is the LiveDVD 10.1 without any installer |
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yngwin
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Actually, the installer is you!
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d2_racing
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| Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: [ASK] How long to Install Gentoo 10.1 LiveDVD |
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| n4is3n wrote: | Dear All...
How long do I need to install Gentoo 10.1 (LiveDVD) on a laptop Pentium 4 and 512 RAM |
One of my friends have a similar box and it's 6h of compilation time for the system and it's almost 12h to install gnome after that.
If you don't recompile your box(you don't change your cflags or locales), then you save 6h at least. |
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RedSquirrel
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| Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: [ASK] How long to Install Gentoo 10.1 LiveDVD |
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| d2_racing wrote: | | n4is3n wrote: | Dear All...
How long do I need to install Gentoo 10.1 (LiveDVD) on a laptop Pentium 4 and 512 RAM |
One of my friends have a similar box and it's 6h of compilation time for the system and it's almost 12h to install gnome after that.
If you don't recompile your box(you don't change your cflags or locales), then you save 6h at least. |
One could also save considerable time by installing a window manager instead of the full GNOME desktop environment. After building x11-base/xorg-server, it would only take a small number of minutes to build x11-wm/openbox or x11-wm/fluxbox, for example. |
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ryan221
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Just to give my opinion
While it won't be a quick as compiling openbox or fluxbox, if you need something more than a window manager , i'd recommend Xfce. It has less dependencies than gnome so it won't take as long to compile, has almost everything a desktop needs, and is pretty lightweight for what it does offer. |
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gerard27
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I think we've lost the OP.
Gerard.
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To install Gentoo I use sysrescuecd.Based on Gentoo,has firefox to browse Gentoo docs and mc to browse (and edit) files.
The same disk can be used for 32 and 64 bit installs.
You can follow the Handbook verbatim.
http://www.sysresccd.org/Download |
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eccerr0r
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What would be interesting is if there was a "portage snapshot" with "distfiles snapshot" that someone could install an out-of-date system with just the DVD... Along with the portage snapshot on the DVD a distfiles snapshot. Something that may not have *everything* but at least have common stuff like gnome, kde, firefox, openoffice, etc., so you'd be able to end up with a machine that would be up to date to that snapshot...
Of course the instant that machine connected to the internet and emerge --sync, a zillion packages would be out of date, but at least the person got a usable machine and could work with a GUI to complete the upgrades (including being able to websurf to get help debugging any issues.)
Helpful? maybe... but definitely helpful for those who have limited network connections. I'm basically doing this already by keeping a copy of all my distfiles so I can setup machines without having to download...
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