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idella4
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I have just plugged in another hard drive into the computer, that makes three now. Before I go any further
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genny idella # lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation Device 07c3 (rev a2)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a2)
00:01.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:02.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:03.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 LPC Bridge (rev a2)
00:03.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP73 SMBus (rev a1)
00:03.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP73 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:03.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP73 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:04.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7100/nForce 630i (rev a1)
00:04.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7100/nForce 630i (rev a1)
00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP73 IDE (rev a1)
00:09.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP73 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
00:0a.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 PCI Express bridge (rev a1)
00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 PCI Express bridge (rev a1)
00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 PCI Express bridge (rev a1)
00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 PCI Express bridge (rev a1)
00:0e.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation Device 07f0 (rev a2)
00:0f.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation MCP73 Ethernet (rev a2)
01:06.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01)
01:07.0 Mass storage controller: ALi Corporation ALi M5281 Serial ATA / RAID Host Controller (rev a4)
01:07.1 Mass storage controller: ALi Corporation M5228 ALi ATA/RAID Controller (rev c6)
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS (rev a1)
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My gentoo(s) are on a sata hard drive which the kernel lists as /dev/sda1
There is a second ide drive connected to the motherboards ide cable. It has one ide cable taking the 2 devices, the hard drive and a dvd.
Now comes the hard part. Being no more ide cables, the addition of an ide hard drive is done by a pci device that
provides for connecting two more devices. i.e. two slots on the one cable, master and slave style.
The bios pauses on bootup for a while recognising the hard drives. Adding this one, it recognises and treats it as a raid device.
In the bios, it is listed separately to the core devices attached to the motherboard.
It recognises the motherboards hardware first, then appends the next as a raid.
Now an 18 month old knoppix dvd had no trouble with it. It listed the devices as hda, sda and sdf.
hda == motherboard connected ide, sda = motherboard sata drive, and sdf = added ide drive.
Out of fun I've just installed a 64 bit debian onto it which now has its grub directing bootup.
Knoppix being debian based, they both list /dev hda, sda and sdf.
My gentoos both are missing the added drive. so they can't access it.
Gentoos are listing /dev sda and sdb.
I suspect you gentoo users on this forum would know what it takes. It seems to me something is not activated in the kernel.
I checked the config and there are a few entries addressing raid that are turned on, but I'm not sure that the required adjustment is raid related.
The other way to check would require installing the whole debian kernel sources in order to procure the .config assuming it comes with the system config, a sledge hammer approach to resolve it.
Debian's kernel, the latest, is 2.6.26 which in gentoo terms is 18 months old already.
Any helpers??
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| Try booting the system with a Gentoo Live CD. If fidsk -l shows all the drives then you'll know the issue is with the kernel options. At that point issue, lsmod and see what modules are loaded and compare the output with your installed Gentoo. You could also post the output of lspci. |
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idella4
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yes well at the risk of being argumentative, why should gentoo-live be any better than knoppix or a pure debian?
Yes we are gentoo fans, but this is pretty straight forward. and I did list lspci. second line in. Knoppix is the bench mark in seeing hardware.
This spells kernel clearly. and
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idella@genny ~ $ sudo fdisk -l
Password:
Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x0009a4a5
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 6528 52436128+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda2 * 6529 11750 41945715 83 Linux
/dev/sda3 11751 16972 41945715 83 Linux
/dev/sda4 16973 57683 327011107+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5 16973 22194 41945683+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda6 22195 27416 41945683+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda7 27417 27547 1052226 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda8 27548 45302 142609005 83 Linux
/dev/sda9 45302 57683 99458352 83 Linux
Disk /dev/sdb: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xdad699a4
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 1 2527 20290095 83 Linux
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sdb2 2528 2566 313267+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb3 * 2567 4016 11642368+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb4 4021 9671 45391657+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sdb5 4021 5539 12194248+ b W95 FAT32
/dev/sdb6 5540 7137 12835901 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb7 7138 9671 20346322 b W95 FAT32
Disk /dev/sdc: 4022 MB, 4022337024 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 489 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdc1 1 488 3919841 b W95 FAT32
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from my genny gentoo. /dev/sdc is a flash drive. Just to add to it, Suse-11.2 sees them all and its kernel lists them as /dev/sda - /sdd.
On listing modules, you have a point in using a gentoo, so I might burn a minimal install to cd and try that.
Knoppix and debian and suse have a long list of modules loaded at boot's end, making it hard to tell what is what,
whereas gentoo only has the essentials loaded.
My current lsmod
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idella@genny ~ $ lsmod
Module Size Used by
snd_pcm_oss 33116 0
snd_mixer_oss 12580 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy 2364 0
snd_seq_oss 23436 0
snd_seq_midi_event 5436 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 41872 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device 5512 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_hda_codec_realtek 178828 1
nvidia 9577356 30
snd_hda_intel 22728 2
snd_hda_codec 48924 2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep 6132 1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm 59788 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_timer 17336 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd 46208 15 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer
snd_page_alloc 7448 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
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Just sound and graphics. No hard drive modules to observe.
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Boot with a kernel that detects your harddrives (Knoppix, etc.), then use the -k option to see which drivers are used for each device.
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idella4
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cyrillic,
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debian Documents # lspci -k
pcilib: Cannot open /proc/bus/pci
00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 07c3 (rev a2)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a2)
00:01.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:02.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:03.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 07d7 (rev a2)
00:03.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 07d8 (rev a1)
00:03.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 07d9 (rev a1)
00:03.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 07c8 (rev a1)
00:04.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7100/nForce 630i (rev a1)
00:04.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7100/nForce 630i (rev a1)
00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 056c (rev a1)
00:09.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP73 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
00:0a.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 056d (rev a1)
00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 056e (rev a1)
00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 056f (rev a1)
00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 056f (rev a1)
00:0e.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 07f0 (rev a2)
00:0f.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation MCP73 Ethernet (rev a2)
01:06.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01)
01:07.0 Mass storage controller: ALi Corporation ALi M5281 Serial ATA / RAID Host Controller (rev a4)
01:07.1 Mass storage controller: ALi Corporation M5228 ALi ATA/RAID Controller (rev c6)
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 06e4 (rev a1)
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gentoo to the rescue. ok Im in debian lenny which sees the hard drive, and I've chrooted into my gentoo, so it takes with it these settings. From gentoo, the lspci gives
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debian:/home/idella# lspci -k
00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation Device 07c3 (rev a2)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a2)
00:01.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:02.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:03.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 LPC Bridge (rev a2)
00:03.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP73 SMBus (rev a1)
00:03.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP73 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:03.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP73 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:04.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7100/nForce 630i (rev a1)
Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
Kernel modules: ohci-hcd
00:04.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7100/nForce 630i (rev a1)
Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
Kernel modules: ehci-hcd
00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP73 IDE (rev a1)
Kernel driver in use: AMD_IDE
Kernel modules: amd74xx, ide-pci-generic, ata_generic
00:09.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP73 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
00:0a.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 PCI Express bridge (rev a1)
00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 PCI Express bridge (rev a1)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport-driver
Kernel modules: shpchp
00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 PCI Express bridge (rev a1)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport-driver
Kernel modules: shpchp
00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 PCI Express bridge (rev a1)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport-driver
Kernel modules: shpchp
00:0e.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation Device 07f0 (rev a2)
Kernel driver in use: ahci
Kernel modules: ide-pci-generic, ahci, ata_generic
00:0f.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation MCP73 Ethernet (rev a2)
Kernel driver in use: forcedeth
Kernel modules: forcedeth
01:06.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01)
Kernel driver in use: ath5k_pci
Kernel modules: ath5k
01:07.0 Mass storage controller: ALi Corporation ALi M5281 Serial ATA / RAID Host Controller (rev a4)
Kernel driver in use: sata_uli
Kernel modules: sata_uli
01:07.1 Mass storage controller: ALi Corporation M5228 ALi ATA/RAID Controller (rev c6)
Kernel driver in use: ALI15x3_IDE
Kernel modules: alim15x3
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS (rev a1)
Kernel modules: nvidiafb
This k option does nothing. The output is the same for lspci. So this provides a fwe clues. How to use this info to adjust the kernel config?
I'll work on it and probably post solved, but let's not assume too much. |
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I'm not sure why Debian's lspci is broken, but with Gentoo's lspci the -k option is working.
The part you want to look at is
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This will tell you what to choose when configuring your own kernel. |
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Most likely, this is what you should choose for your hardware.
| 00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP73 IDE (rev a1): | Device Drivers --->
<*> Serial ATA and Parallel ATA drivers --->
<*> AMD/NVidia PATA support |
| 00:0e.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation Device 07f0 (rev a2) : | Device Drivers --->
<*> Serial ATA and Parallel ATA drivers --->
<*> AHCI SATA support |
| 01:07.0 Mass storage controller: ALi Corporation ALi M5281 Serial ATA / RAID Host Controller (rev a4) : | Device Drivers --->
<*> Serial ATA and Parallel ATA drivers --->
<*> ULi Electronics SATA support |
| 01:07.1 Mass storage controller: ALi Corporation M5228 ALi ATA/RAID Controller (rev c6): | Device Drivers --->
<*> Serial ATA and Parallel ATA drivers --->
<*> ALi PATA support |
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idella4
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cyrillic.
thanks that looks great, I'm trying (recompiling) it now. I see you're American. Where would we be without the Americans??????
This puts you up there with neddySeagoon.
I'll try it out and see and re-post.
reboot .............
yay, how about that, you were spot on.
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genny idella # ls /dev/sd*
/dev/sda /dev/sda3 /dev/sda6 /dev/sda9 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sdc2 /dev/sdc5 /dev/sdd
/dev/sda1 /dev/sda4 /dev/sda7 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdc3 /dev/sdc6 /dev/sdd1
/dev/sda2 /dev/sda5 /dev/sda8 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdc4 /dev/sdc7
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genny idella # lspci -k
00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation Device 07c3 (rev a2)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a2)
00:01.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:01.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:02.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce 630i memory controller (rev a1)
00:03.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 LPC Bridge (rev a2)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 82ae
00:03.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP73 SMBus (rev a1)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 82ae
00:03.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP73 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:03.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP73 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:04.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7100/nForce 630i USB (rev a1)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 82ae
Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
00:04.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP73 [nForce 630i] USB 2.0 Controller (EHCI) (rev a1)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 82ae
Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP73 IDE (rev a1)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 82ae
Kernel driver in use: pata_amd
00:09.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP73 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8290
Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
00:0a.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 PCI Express bridge (rev a1)
00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 PCI Express bridge (rev a1)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport-driver
00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 PCI Express bridge (rev a1)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport-driver
00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP73 PCI Express bridge (rev a1)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport-driver
00:0e.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP73 IDE (rev a2)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 82ae
Kernel driver in use: ahci
00:0f.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation MCP73 Ethernet (rev a2)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 816a
Kernel driver in use: forcedeth
01:06.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01)
Subsystem: D-Link System Inc D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G510 Wireless PCI Adapter(rev.B)
Kernel driver in use: ath5k
01:07.0 Mass storage controller: ALi Corporation ALi M5281 Serial ATA / RAID Host Controller (rev a4)
Subsystem: ALi Corporation ALi M5281 Serial ATA / RAID Host Controller
Kernel driver in use: sata_uli
01:07.1 Mass storage controller: ALi Corporation M5228 ALi ATA/RAID Controller (rev c6)
Subsystem: ALi Corporation Device 5281
Kernel driver in use: pata_ali
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a1)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8278
Kernel driver in use: nvidia
Kernel modules: nvidia
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cool thanks mate
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