close button in title bars sometimes hidden

f.kater · Guru Joined: 23 May 2002 Posts: 342 Location: Berlin

Hi,
I am using fvwm2 (but this might appear also with other window managers): Mozilla sometimes lets pop up little windows which does not have the close button. I wonder why and how this works... Isn't it something what me and the window manager rule?! :?:

What could I do against it?
Felix

Naan Yaar · Bodhisattva Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 1549

Are they javascript? Mozilla has a settings under advanced preferences to turn off unrequested windows. This turns off a lot of annoying adware junk.

f.kater · Guru Joined: 23 May 2002 Posts: 342 Location: Berlin

Thanks, Naan,

I remeber this option in mozilla but I can't concider that, though. Too often these popup windows are necessary. I just wonder how and why mozilla has access to the layout of my title bar! In the worst case this leads to the folling situation: I close the main mozilla window (forget to use quit) so the popup (e.g. some advertisement) stays. I can't close it. I also can't restart mozilla because it is still loaded (the profile manager shows up instead). So I have to restart the x session...

I remember the same with ms-windows: Popup windows without a close button. How the hell do they access my titlebar? :evil:

Felix

Naan Yaar · Bodhisattva Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 1549

The mozilla option actually disallows unrequested windows. So, javascript windows that you click on explicitly do still work. There are several ways you can create windows without borders in X/Xt (if you couldn't you would not be able to display menus for example, which are really not "special" in X as in Windows). You can kill your mozilla session from KDE's process guard or gnome equivalent or do "killall -HUP mozilla" from the console - no need to restart the X session

There is also a useful command called "xkill" that makes it really useful to finish off things that are left hanging behind by misbehaving programs.

f.kater · Guru Joined: 23 May 2002 Posts: 342 Location: Berlin

Thanks, Naan, for your help.

I'd like to solve the problem like you say (mozilla -> prefs -> disable unrequested windows) but I recognized that e.g. my university's library won't show me the password validation popup window. Don't know exactly why - but it is absolutly dependent on the mozilla option mentioned above.

And, you're right, I could kill mozilla but all in all this isn't the way it should be...

I still beleve that it should be possible somehow to prevent my title bar button from disappearing! (What's to sense in it?) I haven't found a way, though. Are you using KDE? Do you sometimes get the same popup windows without a close button?

Best wishes,
Felix

Naan Yaar · Bodhisattva Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 1549

It has been quite a while since I used fvwm2, but did you turn on "DecorateTransient in your .fvwm2rc file? It will provide window decorations for transient pop-ups. It will be somewhere in your fvwm file.

f.kater · Guru Joined: 23 May 2002 Posts: 342 Location: Berlin

That was a very good idea.
But somehow it didn't help.

Maybe I'll find something similar in the .fvwm2rc...
'bye
Felix

f.kater · Guru Joined: 23 May 2002 Posts: 342 Location: Berlin

For those interested in this subject:

I found out that the right most button (regardless what it is) of some browser's popup windows is hidden.
A workaround: Place a button with a close command (and maybe other commands grouped to a menu) also on the very left of the title bar. So you can still access the close command from there.