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corrs_fan Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 2:16 am Post subject: Ide rermovable disk/hotswap capabilities |
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in trying to get my backups easier to use, i was thinking of using a few of those IDE removable drive chasis things, that connect straight to the IDE cables. their dirt cheap, but can anyone tell me the following:
has anyone seen hard disk removable drive things, but with a powerswitch.
if i did decide to hotswap the drives would hotswap work, or does this only seek for scsi/iee1394/usb in order to work.
If it does work, how does it compensate for disks of different capacities??
i cannot get my USB 2 gerar to work under ANY kernel (great under XP), but its too slow, even after the USB 2 patch, to back up 60GB of stuff...
Thanks _________________ Some say "The glass is half empty",
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bombcar Guru
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 5:58 am Post subject: IDE Hot swap - Can be done but risky |
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I've done this before; but don't quote me.
If you umount the drive (say, hdc) with
umount /dev/hdc1
and then issue a hdparm command to tell it to go to sleep:
hdparm -Y /dev/hdc
then you SHOULD be able to remove power from the drive and then disconnect it. I've done it; it worked for me. Notice however that anything that tries to spin it back up (for example: automount!) without it connected it will probably hang the machine.
What I did with this was transfer 100s of MBs back before the days of cheap ZIP disks. Two computers, one disk, and selective mounting.
Eh; make sure the disk is two of the following three: 1. Cheap, 2. Old, 3. Under Warranty
Don't blame me if they won't take a drive back that has been fried to a crisp!
My official recommendation: Firewire. See http://www.dansdata.com/drivedocks.htm for another more useful solution (you'll have to buy a firewire card, but you've always wanted an newer card, right? |
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corrs_fan Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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I really do like the look of that FW thing, but at $60-80 for shipping it is _NOT_ going to happen.
I have seen FW external enclosures locally for £40 + a card is £25 quid (but id rather just get a new jetway polaris mainboard at £60, and get sata, ETC too)
I take it from your experiences firewire just works ??? _________________ Some say "The glass is half empty",
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 1:34 am Post subject: Not mine |
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But I trust Dan of dansdata.com pretty well.
And firewire was designed to be hotswap - the adapter should be available locally.
Otherwise, a separate USB or Firewire drive is the way to go. I don't have one, unfortunately.
(I hear the Apple IPod is a firewire disk
-Tom |
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS
My new firewire enclosure & card work a treat, you wouldnt believe how happy this makes me. Ive spent about a week batling with an otherwise perfectly configured USB2 drive segfaulting, on the first write attempt, every time. Ive tried everytrhing too including new kernels, modules/options/acpi settings you name it.
Im SO happy right now ![Very Happy :D](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) _________________ Some say "The glass is half empty",
I usually say "Eh, There was a Glass.." |
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