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N!Tr0 n00b
Joined: 17 Feb 2010 Posts: 2 Location: kr.ua
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:24 am Post subject: Some thoughts about bootstrap for VM's |
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Hi.
I use Gentoo as guest OS on some VMs, and I think that for easier deployment & maintenance it'll be good to add at least 2 things:
1) Include net-fs/nfs-utils in the stage3 (without this ebuild it's impossible to mount portage tree via NFS)
2) Create some "bootstrap" tarball, with precompiled (adapted for VM, or more generic modular) stable kernel and GRUB, for easy automated deployment of VMю
Also this things IMHO will be useful for deployment OS on real servers - because it'll take much less time for deployment of minimal working environment, and deployment will take less human's time.
Now I make my own 'bootstrap' tarball, with kernel, grub, nfs-utils and some other small, but useful stuff, but it requires to be periodically updated, which isn't enough comfortable - I still make it manually. So I have a question - is it possible to add this features into main repository? If yes - I'll try to help to create automated scripts for building bootstrap. |
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Rexilion Veteran
Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Posts: 1044
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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You might ask on IRC where all the developers hang out. I think your chances of succeeding are very slim, the stage3 are to provide a basic environment for building a Gentoo system. If they were to include everything everyone wants, then Gentoo could just as well provide stage4 tarballs right away. |
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yngwin Retired Dev
Joined: 19 Dec 2002 Posts: 4572 Location: Suzhou, China
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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I think providing some kind of "stage4" tarballs or VM images might be a good addition. I don't think our release team would be very interested in this (altho it wouldn't hurt to ask), but individual initiatives are welcome. I know there were some individual projects (by either devs or users) in the past, but I'm not up to date on their status. _________________ "Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
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N!Tr0 n00b
Joined: 17 Feb 2010 Posts: 2 Location: kr.ua
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Rexilion wrote: | You might ask on IRC where all the developers hang out. I think your chances of succeeding are very slim, the stage3 are to provide a basic environment for building a Gentoo system. If they were to include everything everyone wants, then Gentoo could just as well provide stage4 tarballs right away. |
I want only to include in stage3 just nfs-utils (as says qsize, it's weight is less than 0.5MB) - it's quite strange that there is no possibility to use NFS resources (nor other network resources) when booting from stage3+some kernel - so for every deployed VM or real server I need to create local copy of portage tree, then - install NFS and purge local portage.
Other stuff (just kernel+modules & precompiled grub - it's enough) for rapid gentoo deployment isn't needed in stage3 - it perfectly can be packed to distinct tarball. |
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