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ichbinsisyphos
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:53 am    Post subject: Does anybody here use the "Gentoo" Linux Distribut Reply with quote

I don't know if you have heard of this awesome new program called "xorg-x11". It's in portage, if you want to give it a try.

My question is to those who are already acquainted with this very helpful program:

Can you zap (ctrl-alt-backspace) your X-Server? How?



The relevant part of my xorg.conf:
Code:
...
Section "ServerFlags"
...
    Option    "DontZap"    "False"
...
EndSection
...


This stopped working probably a year ago, after Ubuntu got the devs to change the default behavior and never got it to work since.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Section 2 of the following might help:

xorg-server-1.6-upgrade-guide

I use the very last line in that guide.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And by the way, for those using KDE you have to enable it in System Settings > Regional & Language > Keyboard Layout > Advanced > Key sequence to kill the X server.

Takes me at least 5 minutes everytime I'm looking for that setting on a new install.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never actually got zapping to work. I just use Alt+SysRq+K if X is borked.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I managed it like it is described in the The X Server Configuration HOWTO

Quote:
(Open the file in your preferred editor)
# nano -w /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-x11-input.fdi
(Find the "input.keys" section)

<match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.keys">
(Add the "terminate" merge string as shown)
<match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.keys">
<merge key="input.x11_driver" type="string">keyboard</merge>
<merge key="input.xkb.options" type="string">terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp</merge>
<match key="/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer:system.kernel.name"
string="Linux">
<merge key="input.x11_driver" type="string">evdev<merge>
</match>
</match>


Once you're done, run /etc/init.d/hald restart so that HAL picks up your changes.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nikaya wrote:
I managed it like it is described in the The X Server Configuration HOWTO

[snip]



this

got it working for me too :)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless you run hal-free, in which case that doesn't work...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gnome and KDE now requires to configure "Key sequence to kill the X server", at least they call it the same name ;) I did have "setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" in startup (gnome) and also had .fdi file but that didn't help until I found that option. How did those ubuntu guys convinced xorg people to change this anyway?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AM088 wrote:
Unless you run hal-free, in which case that doesn't work...

Does the following line work for you? From the guide I linked to above:

Quote:
If you still use xorg.conf to manage your input devices, just add the following to your keyboard's InputDevice section :
Option "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp".


I run hal-free and that works for me (with xorg-server-1.6.5-r1).
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny, that no one here wrote about the subject of the post... What a nice teaser.

No, nobody reading this post does use the "gentoo linux distribution" :)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RedSquirrel wrote:
AM088 wrote:
Unless you run hal-free, in which case that doesn't work...

Does the following line work for you? From the guide I linked to above:

Quote:
If you still use xorg.conf to manage your input devices, just add the following to your keyboard's InputDevice section :
Option "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp".


I run hal-free and that works for me (with xorg-server-1.6.5-r1).
Does not work for me.
Whatever anybody says, writing XML config files by hand can only be the very VERY very last resort. I would therefor like to avoid using hal.

The only thing that works for now is to enable the option via setxkbmap.

Oh ... I'm not using GNOME or KDE either, just Openbox.

Btw, that's not the only thing that stopped working. I can also no longer light the keyboard leds with xset. Happened at the same time.

Until yesterday I only had xorg-server installed. Because I read that some functionality of the server was migrated to some other package I installed the xorg-x11 meta package today, which didn't change a thing either.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't work for me either... gave up on it a long time ago.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AM088 wrote:
Doesn't work for me either... gave up on it a long time ago.

It should work if you set your XkbOptions in the following manner:

Code:
Option      "XkbOptions" "compose:ralt,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RedSquirrel wrote:
AM088 wrote:
Doesn't work for me either... gave up on it a long time ago.

It should work if you set your XkbOptions in the following manner:

Code:
Option      "XkbOptions" "compose:ralt,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
It doesn't for me. You know, the suggestions here are becoming more and more what Feynman would have called a cargo cult ;-)


Does anybody use a minimal desktop (just X, a WM and maybe a panel) not a complete DE and got this working without hald? Or maybe somebody knows someone who knows someone who ...?

I'm getting the feeling I'm missing some package here, even if X doesn't complain. Because the options do nothing at all.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RedSquirrel wrote:
AM088 wrote:
Doesn't work for me either... gave up on it a long time ago.

It should work if you set your XkbOptions in the following manner:

Code:
Option      "XkbOptions" "compose:ralt,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"


Thanks! That worked :)
(And compose keys still work too ☺)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edit: forget it. I had another XkbOptions-line in there.


All "XkbOptions"-options in one line, separated by commas and it works.
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