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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:00 pm    Post subject: [SOLVED] ALSA emu10k1 problem "media-sound/alsa-firmwar Reply with quote

Hi all,

I am now in the process of setting upp Gentoo for the first time. Started with a minimal install cd and do now have a working Gnome envirment.

But still a way to go to have a working MythTV setup.

Now it is sound that is the problem.

Folowing the "Gentoo Linux ALSA Guide" I am suppose to choose the soundcard in kernel settings.



Code:
make menuconfig


But there I can not find the module I need, "Emu10k1-fpga" I do find "Emu10k1" but that is the wrong one.

I have tried to just install the firmware by.

Code:
emerge media-sound/alsa-firmware


But no luck.

How should I do to get it to work with this modul?


Best regards,
Christer Eriksson
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See this page:

http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-emu10k1-fpga

You do want the Emu10k1 driver as a module.

Often, when you have a sound card called abc-xyz, and you only see an abc driver, it's the one you want. ALSA drivers are often meant to cover a wide range of sound cards of the same base model.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:12 pm    Post subject: module emu10k1 will not load OK. Reply with quote

Thanks!

I have now tried many different ways to get it to work with emu10k1 but no luck at all.

With UBUNTU all I needed to do was to folow the instructions at alsa.org with the addition of the firmware.


But it just whant work in Gentoo, I dont understand.

Without sound I can not use Gentoo.

Well, I hope to be able to solv this.


Code:
aplay -l


give:

Quote:
aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found...


So I looked for what module I should have.

Code:

lspci -v | less


Quote:
Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)
Subsystem: Creative Labs E-MU 1010
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 19
I/O ports at c000 [size=32]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2
Kernel modules: snd-emu10k1




Then I looked for what modules I have.

Code:
find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd



Quote:
/lib/modules/2.6.31-gentoo-r10/kernel/sound/synth/snd-util-mem.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.31-gentoo-r10/kernel/sound/synth/emux/snd-emux-synth.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.31-gentoo-r10/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1-synth.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.31-gentoo-r10/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.31-gentoo-r10/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.31-gentoo-r10/kernel/sound/core/snd-rawmidi.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.31-gentoo-r10/kernel/sound/core/oss/snd-mixer-oss.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.31-gentoo-r10/kernel/sound/core/oss/snd-pcm-oss.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.31-gentoo-r10/kernel/sound/core/snd.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.31-gentoo-r10/kernel/sound/core/seq/snd-seq-device.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.31-gentoo-r10/kernel/sound/core/seq/snd-seq-midi-event.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.31-gentoo-r10/kernel/sound/core/seq/snd-seq-midi-emul.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.31-gentoo-r10/kernel/sound/core/seq/snd-seq-midi.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.31-gentoo-r10/kernel/sound/core/seq/snd-seq.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.31-gentoo-r10/kernel/sound/core/seq/snd-seq-virmidi.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.31-gentoo-r10/kernel/sound/core/snd-pcm.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.31-gentoo-r10/kernel/sound/core/snd-hwdep.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.31-gentoo-r10/kernel/sound/core/snd-page-alloc.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.31-gentoo-r10/kernel/sound/core/snd-timer.ko





So I belive that I have the right modules.

Code:
modprobe snd-emu10k1



Give no output at all.

If I try to start alsa with

Code:
/etc/init.d/alsasound start



Quote:
* Loading ALSA modules ... [ ok ]
* Loading: snd-card-0 ... [ ok ]
* ERROR: Failed to load necessary drivers
* Restoring Mixer Levels ...
alsactl: unrecognized option '---'
Usage: alsactl <options> command

Available global options:
-h,--help this help
-d,--debug debug mode
-v,--version print version of this program

Available state options:
-f,--file # configuration file (default /etc/asound.state)
-F,--force try to restore the matching controls as much as possible
(default mode)
-g,--ignore ignore 'No soundcards found' error
-P,--pedantic do not restore mismatching controls (old default)
-I,--no-init-fallback
don't initialize even if restore fails
-r,--runstate # save restore and init state to this file (only errors)
default settings is 'no file set'
-R,--remove remove runstate file at first, otherwise append errors

Available init options:
-E,--env #=# set environment variable for init phase (NAME=VALUE)
-i,--initfile # main configuation file for init phase (default /usr/share/alsa/init/00main)


Available commands:
store <card #> save current driver setup for one or each soundcards
to configuration file
restore <card #> load current driver setup for one or each soundcards
from configuration file
init <card #> initialize driver to a default state
names <card #> dump information about all the known present (sub-)devices
into configuration file (DEPRECATED)
* Errors while restoring defaults, ignoring [ ok ]




Anyone who knows how to find out what have faild and maybe how to get it OK.

All sugestions are most wellcome!

Best regards!

/Christer Eriksson
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: module emu10k1 will not load OK. Reply with quote

agkbill wrote:


With UBUNTU all I needed to do was to folow the instructions at alsa.org with the addition of the firmware.



What firmware is this?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Thank you for answering,



My soundcard is a E-MU 1820 (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/creative,825.html)

This card have creative chipset on the PCI card and then a breakout box. It is for the breakout box that the firmware is needed.

I dont know all the details about what it do or so.

Maybe the problem is all about the firmware, how to load it and so.

The firmware is (ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/firmware/alsa-firmware-1.0.20.tar.bz2)
found at (http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page)


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also use emu10k1.
Code:

/etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf
# Alsa kernel modules' configuration file.

# ALSA portion
# OSS/Free portion

##
## IMPORTANT:
## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
## and then run `update-modules' command.
## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
##
##  ALSA portion
## alias snd-card-0 snd-interwave
## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
##  OSS/Free portion
## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
##

# OSS/Free portion - card #1
##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
## alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
## alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
## alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

# Set this to the correct number of cards.
# --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
# --- ALSACONF version 1.0.20 ---
alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
alias sound-slot-0 snd-emu10k1
# --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---

Notice the lines at the end.
Is yours the same?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Yes my look the same.

Quote:
# Alsa kernel modules' configuration file.

# ALSA portion
# OSS/Free portion

##
## IMPORTANT:
## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
## and then run `update-modules' command.
## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
##
## ALSA portion
## alias snd-card-0 snd-interwave
## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
## OSS/Free portion
## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
##

# OSS/Free portion - card #1
## OSS/Free portion - card #2
## alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
## alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
## alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

# Set this to the correct number of cards.

# --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
# --- ALSACONF version 1.0.21 ---
alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
alias sound-slot-0 snd-emu10k1
# --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---




Does your card have a breakout box, do you need the ALSA firmware to get it up and running?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.
However there's something funny about my card.
In the kernel's menuconfig I had the choice of emu10k1 dell
or just plain emu10k1.
It only works with the plain variety.
However both alsamixer and kmix (in kde) call the card SB Live!Dell OEM!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is the one I am using to.

Quote:
EMU10k1 (SB Live!, Ausigy, E-mu APS)



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.
However there's something funny about my card.
In the kernel's menuconfig I had the choice of emu10k1 dell
or just plain emu10k1.
It only works with the plain variety.
However both alsamixer and kmix (in kde) call the card SB Live!Dell OEM!
Gerard.

The connection timed out and I repeated the submit command.
That's why there's 2x the same message.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the output of lsmod plse.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

lsmod gives:

Code:
gentoo_ce ~ # lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
ipv6                  248128  14
snd_seq                50384  0
snd_pcm_oss            36496  0
snd_mixer_oss          14728  1 snd_pcm_oss
nvidia               9609080  38
snd_emu10k1           136512  0
snd_rawmidi            22448  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_ac97_codec        112280  1 snd_emu10k1
ac97_bus                1992  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm                77872  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec
snd_seq_device          7436  3 snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi
snd_timer              21256  3 snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc          9528  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem            4680  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep               8000  1 snd_emu10k1
snd                    61176  10 snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,
                                 snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,snd_hwdep
sky2                   47276  0
r8169                  32348  0
soundcore               7952  1 snd
floppy                 55736  0
i2c_core               24336  1 nvidia
processor              37492  0
thermal                15880  0
button                  6440  0
thermal_sys            14992  2 processor,thermal
tg3                   103228  0
libphy                 24952  1 tg3
e1000                 114588  0
fuse                   59360  0
jfs                   153104  0
raid10                 20696  0
raid456                48648  0
async_memcpy            2328  1 raid456
async_xor               3736  1 raid456
xor                     5416  2 raid456,async_xor
async_tx                3768  3 raid456,async_memcpy,async_xor
raid6_pq               80680  1 raid456
raid1                  20888  0
raid0                   7164  0
dm_bbr                 10384  0
dm_snapshot            22700  0
dm_crypt               12944  0
dm_mirror              14496  0
dm_region_hash         12184  1 dm_mirror
dm_log                  9724  2 dm_mirror,dm_region_hash
dm_mod                 66568  5 dm_bbr,dm_snapshot,dm_crypt,dm_mirror,dm_log
scsi_wait_scan          1416  0
sbp2                   22660  0
ohci1394               29380  0
ieee1394               86480  2 sbp2,ohci1394
sl811_hcd              11016  0
usbhid                 26960  0
ohci_hcd               22452  0
uhci_hcd               21600  0
usb_storage            75616  0
ehci_hcd               34696  0
usbcore               145764  7 sl811_hcd,usbhid,ohci_hcd,uhci_hcd,usb_storage,ehci_hcd
aic94xx                71148  0
libsas                 44192  1 aic94xx
lpfc                  360308  0
qla2xxx               214508  0
megaraid_sas           36236  0
megaraid_mbox          29432  0
megaraid_mm             9688  1 megaraid_mbox
megaraid               40488  0
aacraid                69872  0
sx8                    15144  0
DAC960                 67088  0
cciss                  41288  0
3w_9xxx                32824  0
3w_xxxx                23808  0
mptsas                 47592  0
scsi_transport_sas     30488  3 aic94xx,libsas,mptsas
mptfc                  16432  0
scsi_transport_fc      47180  3 lpfc,qla2xxx,mptfc
scsi_tgt               13200  1 scsi_transport_fc
mptspi                 17608  0
mptscsih               32472  3 mptsas,mptfc,mptspi
mptbase                85348  4 mptsas,mptfc,mptspi,mptscsih
atp870u                26976  0
dc395x                 31508  0
qla1280                22320  0
dmx3191d               11272  0
sym53c8xx              72000  0
gdth                   79368  0
advansys               55456  0
initio                 17656  0
BusLogic               22976  0
arcmsr                 22432  0
aic7xxx               116844  0
aic79xx               134700  0
scsi_transport_spi     24904  5 mptspi,dmx3191d,sym53c8xx,aic7xxx,aic79xx
sg                     29488  0
pdc_adma                7932  0
sata_inic162x          10252  0
sata_mv                29484  0
ata_piix               26640  2
ahci                   38136  0
sata_qstor              7996  0
sata_vsc                6412  0
sata_uli                5148  0
sata_sis                6316  0
sata_sx4               10748  0
sata_nv                24644  0
sata_via               11228  0
sata_svw                6348  0
sata_sil24             14428  0
sata_sil               10672  0
sata_promise           12828  0
pata_sl82c105           5608  0
pata_cs5530             6568  0
pata_cs5520             6536  0
pata_via               10816  0
pata_jmicron            3976  0
pata_marvell            4568  0
pata_sis               13180  1 sata_sis
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pata_sc1200             4808  0
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pata_triflex            5036  0
pata_atiixp             5752  0
pata_opti               4764  0
pata_amd               13596  0
pata_ali               12072  0
pata_it8213             5532  0
pata_pcmcia            14536  0
pcmcia                 35260  1 pata_pcmcia
pcmcia_core            37380  1 pcmcia
pata_ns87415            5196  0
pata_ns87410            4840  0
pata_serverworks        7960  0
pata_artop              6924  0
pata_it821x            11932  0
pata_optidma            6912  0
pata_hpt3x2n            7032  0
pata_hpt3x3             5404  0
pata_hpt37x            13896  0
pata_hpt366             7208  0
pata_cmd64x             7800  0
pata_efar               5404  0
pata_rz1000             4508  0
pata_sil680             7068  0
pata_radisys            4908  0
pata_pdc2027x           8940  0
pata_mpiix              5084  0
libata                176348  51 libsas,pdc_adma,sata_inic162x,sata_mv,ata_piix,ahci,sata_qstor,
                                  sata_vsc,sata_uli,sata_sis,sata_sx4,sata_nv,sata_via,sata_svw,
                                  sata_sil24,sata_sil,sata_promise,pata_sl82c105,pata_cs5530,
                                  pata_cs5520,pata_via,pata_jmicron,pata_marvell,pata_sis,
                                  pata_netcell,pata_sc1200,pata_pdc202xx_old,pata_triflex,
                                  pata_atiixp,pata_opti,pata_amd,pata_ali,pata_it8213,pata_pcmcia,
                                  pata_ns87415,pata_ns87410,pata_serverworks,pata_artop,
                                  pata_it821x,pata_optidma,pata_hpt3x2n,pata_hpt3x3,
                                  pata_hpt37x,pata_hpt366,pata_cmd64x,pata_efar,pata_rz1000,
                                  pata_sil680,pata_radisys,pata_pdc2027x,pata_mpiix




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/Christer Eriksson

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well all the necessary modules are loaded alright.
And you ran alsaconf to make the configure file.
This means alsaconf found and recognized your card.
I really don't know what else it could be.
On a side note:You have many more modules than you could possibly need.
Did you use genkernel to make your kernel?
I wonder if one of these modules screws up things.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's my lsmod.
Module Size Used by
nvidiafb 46088 0
fb_ddc 2248 1 nvidiafb
i2c_algo_bit 6284 1 nvidiafb
vgastate 8744 1 nvidiafb
snd_emu10k1 147648 3
snd_rawmidi 22560 1 snd_emu10k1
nvidia 8117944 22
snd_ac97_codec 122648 1 snd_emu10k1
ac97_bus 2024 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm 78768 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer 22360 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 9368 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem 4152 1 snd_emu10k1
rtl8187 53596 0
snd_hwdep 8752 1 snd_emu10k1
psmouse 45460 0
snd 61848 12 snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep
usbhid 22336 0
evdev 11456 1
pcspkr 2968 0
i2c_i801 10196 0
soundcore 7536 1 snd
eeprom_93cx6 2232 1 rtl8187
sky2 49212 0
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks gerard82 for helping!

Today I managed to get sound.

I found that in /lib/firmware were I suppose to find "emu" firmware it was none after I run

Code:
emerge media-sound/alsa-firmware


I dont know if I missed anything, maybe I must set something in /etc/make.conf ?


What I did was to download the package from http://www.alsa-project.org and compiled it myself.

./configure
make
make install

After that I found all the folders including emu in /lib/firmware

I did the same with "alsa-lib"


So the problem was with the firmware. I did not manage to find god information about howto do with ALSA firmware in Gentoo.

But now I have sound and can keep on my work on a MythTV setup :D


All the best!

/Christer Eriksson
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Gentoo alsa-firmware is "masked".
You could have unmasked it and it would install.
Anyway glad to hear you have sound now.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I could se alsa-firware was OK to install with emerge.

But the first time I did it I did not set any USE flags, that was the reason it did not work.

If I look upp what USE flag to use for my soundcard, it worked fine after adding it in my /etc/make.conf file.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emerge ufed.
Run it in aterminal as root.
It will give you all the useflags + short description.
Very good for learning.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

God tips Gerard,

Thank you.

I am all new to Gentoo so a lot to learn, quite different from Ubuntu that I have been using the last years.

Best regards,
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