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Maialovic Apprentice

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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:05 am Post subject: kde 4.3.5 + gentoo-sources 2.6.32-r7 laptop impazzito |
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salve ragassuoli,
da quando ho aggiornato il mio portatile al nuovo kernel gentoo-sources 2.6.32-r7 è successo il finimondo:kde 4.3.5 non mi rileva piu la batteria, non rileva piu l'hard disk esterno usb al suo inserimento come "nuovo dispositivo inserito"(lo lascia vuoto).
Gli ultimi pacchetti ho si sono installati in questi 2 giorni sono : Code: | aspell-0.60.6.tar.gz dbus-glib-0.82.tar.gz JGroups-2.9.0.GA.src.zip ntfs-3g-2010.1.16.tgz coreutils-8.4-patches-1.tar.lzma genpatches-2.6.32-8.base.tar.bz2 linux-2.6.32.tar.bz2 postgresql-jdbc-8.4-701.src.tar.gz coreutils-8.4.tar.gz genpatches-2.6.32-8.extras.tar.bz2 mirrorselect-2.1.0.tar.bz2 dbus-1.2.24.tar.gz javacup-0.11a_beta20060608.tar.bz2 Net-SSLeay-1.36.tar.gz | .
Il problema che codesti problemi si riflettono anche sugli altri 2 kernel che ho installato, il 2.6.31.10 e il 2.6.30.8.
la cosa strana è che il dmesg narra :
Code: | ACPI: Power Button [PWRB]
input: Video Bus as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNP0A08:00/device:01/device:02/input/input3
ACPI: Video Device [VGA] (multi-head: yes rom: no post: no)
Marking TSC unstable due to TSC halts in idle
ACPI: CPU0 (power states: C1[C1] C2[C2] C3[C3] C4[C3])
processor ACPI_CPU:00: registered as cooling_device0
Serial: 8250/16550 driver, 4 ports, IRQ sharing disabled
Switched to NOHz mode on CPU #0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] enabled at IRQ 10
serial 0000:00:1e.3: PCI INT B -> Link[LNKE] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
serial 0000:00:1e.3: PCI INT B disabled
tifm_7xx1 0000:06:04.3: PCI INT B -> Link[LNKB] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver
piix 0000:00:1f.1: IDE controller (0x8086:0x266f rev 0x03)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 10
pci 0000:00:1f.1: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKC] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
piix 0000:00:1f.1: IDE port disabled
piix 0000:00:1f.1: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0x18c0-0x18c7
Probing IDE interface ide0...
[b]ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery present)[/b]
hda: MATSHITADVD-RAM UJ-841S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = 148508715 ns)
hda: host max PIO4 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO4
hda: UDMA/33 mode selected
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide_generic: please use "probe_mask=0x3f" module parameter for probing all legacy ISA IDE ports
ide-gd driver 1.18
ide-cd driver 5.00
ide-cd: hda: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM DVD-R/RAM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
Driver 'sr' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
SCSI Media Changer driver v0.25
Driver 'ch' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
ata_piix 0000:00:1f.2: version 2.13
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 11
ata_piix 0000:00:1f.2: PCI INT B -> Link[LNKD] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
ata_piix 0000:00:1f.2: MAP [ P0 P2 -- -- ]
ata_piix 0000:00:1f.2: setting latency timer to 64
scsi0 : ata_piix
scsi1 : ata_piix
ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x2088 ctl 0x18ec bmdma 0x18f0 irq 11
ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x2080 ctl 0x18e8 bmdma 0x18f8 irq 11
PPP generic driver version 2.4.2
tun: Universal TUN/TAP device driver, 1.6
tun: (C) 1999-2004 Max Krasnyansky <maxk@qualcomm.com>
ohci1394 0000:06:04.2: PCI INT C -> Link[LNKC] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
ohci1394: fw-host0: OHCI-1394 1.1 (PCI): IRQ=[10] MMIO=[c4006800-c4006fff] Max Packet=[2048] IR/IT contexts=[4/8]
video1394: Installed video1394 module
ieee1394: raw1394: /dev/raw1394 device initialized
ehci_hcd: USB 2.0 'Enhanced' Host Controller (EHCI) Driver
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] enabled at IRQ 11
ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKH] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: setting latency timer to 64
ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: EHCI Host Controller
ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: debug port 1
ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: cache line size of 32 is not supported
ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: irq 11, io mem 0xb8000000
ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00
usb usb1: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0002
usb usb1: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
usb usb1: Product: EHCI Host Controller
usb usb1: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.30-gentoo-r8 ehci_hcd
usb usb1: SerialNumber: 0000:00:1d.7
usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 1-0:1.0: 8 ports detected
ohci_hcd: USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver
uhci_hcd: USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKH] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: setting latency timer to 64
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: irq 11, io base 0x00001800
usb usb2: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001
usb usb2: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
usb usb2: Product: UHCI Host Controller
usb usb2: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.30-gentoo-r8 uhci_hcd
usb usb2: SerialNumber: 0000:00:1d.0
usb usb2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: PCI INT B -> Link[LNKD] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: setting latency timer to 64
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: irq 11, io base 0x00001820
usb usb3: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001
usb usb3: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
usb usb3: Product: UHCI Host Controller
usb usb3: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.30-gentoo-r8 uhci_hcd
usb usb3: SerialNumber: 0000:00:1d.1
usb usb3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 3-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: PCI INT C -> Link[LNKC] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: setting latency timer to 64
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: irq 10, io base 0x00001840
usb usb4: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001
usb usb4: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
usb usb4: Product: UHCI Host Controller
usb usb4: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.30-gentoo-r8 uhci_hcd
usb usb4: SerialNumber: 0000:00:1d.2
usb usb4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 4-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.3: PCI INT D -> Link[LNKA] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.3: setting latency timer to 64
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.3: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.3: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 5
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.3: irq 10, io base 0x00001860
usb usb5: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001
usb usb5: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
usb usb5: Product: UHCI Host Controller
usb usb5: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.30-gentoo-r8 uhci_hcd
usb usb5: SerialNumber: 0000:00:1d.3
usb usb5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 5-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 5-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
usbcore: registered new interface driver cdc_acm
cdc_acm: v0.26:USB Abstract Control Model driver for USB modems and ISDN adapters
usbcore: registered new interface driver usblp
Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
USB Mass Storage support registered.
PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:PS2K,PNP0f13:PS2M] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12
i8042.c: Detected active multiplexing controller, rev 1.1.
serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
serio: i8042 AUX0 port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
serio: i8042 AUX1 port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
serio: i8042 AUX2 port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
serio: i8042 AUX3 port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
Linux video capture interface: v2.00
usbcore: registered new interface driver dabusb
dabusb: v1.54:DAB-USB Interface Driver for Linux (c)1999
pwc: Philips webcam module version 10.0.13 loaded.
pwc: Supports Philips PCA645/646, PCVC675/680/690, PCVC720[40]/730/740/750 & PCVC830/840.
pwc: Also supports the Askey VC010, various Logitech Quickcams, Samsung MPC-C10 and MPC-C30,
pwc: the Creative WebCam 5 & Pro Ex, SOTEC Afina Eye and Visionite VCS-UC300 and VCS-UM100.
pwc: Trace options: 0x0001
usbcore: registered new interface driver Philips webcam
Bluetooth: Virtual HCI driver ver 1.2
Bluetooth: HCI UART driver ver 2.2
Bluetooth: HCI H4 protocol initialized
Bluetooth: HCI BCSP protocol initialized
Bluetooth: HCILL protocol initialized
Bluetooth: Broadcom Blutonium firmware driver ver 1.2
usbcore: registered new interface driver bcm203x
Bluetooth: Digianswer Bluetooth USB driver ver 0.10
usbcore: registered new interface driver bpa10x
Bluetooth: BlueFRITZ! USB driver ver 1.2
usbcore: registered new interface driver bfusb
Bluetooth: Generic Bluetooth USB driver ver 0.5
usbcore: registered new interface driver btusb
Bluetooth: Generic Bluetooth SDIO driver ver 0.1
cpuidle: using governor ladder
cpuidle: using governor menu
sdhci: Secure Digital Host Controller Interface driver
sdhci: Copyright(c) Pierre Ossman
input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input4
usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
usbhid: v2.6:USB HID core driver
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.20.
ALSA device list:
No soundcards found.
oprofile: using timer interrupt.
Netfilter messages via NETLINK v0.30.
xt_time: kernel timezone is -0000
ip_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team
arp_tables: (C) 2002 David S. Miller
TCP cubic registered
NET: Registered protocol family 17
Bluetooth: L2CAP ver 2.13
Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
Bluetooth: SCO (Voice Link) ver 0.6
Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11
Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3
Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast
Bluetooth: HIDP (Human Interface Emulation) ver 1.2
drivers/rtc/hctosys.c: unable to open rtc device (rtc0)
ata1.00: ATA-6: TOSHIBA MK1032GSX, AS021G, max UDMA/100
ata1.00: 195371568 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 0/32)
ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100
scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA TOSHIBA MK1032GS AS02 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 195371568 512-byte hardware sectors: (100 GB/93.1 GiB)
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
sda:<5>sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
input: PS/2 Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio4/input/input5
input: AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint as /devices/platform/i8042/serio4/input/input6
kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with writeback data mode.
VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly on device 8:4.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 300k freed
usb 3-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
usb 3-1: New USB device found, idVendor=046d, idProduct=c018
usb 3-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
usb 3-1: Product: USB Optical Mouse
usb 3-1: Manufacturer: Logitech
usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
input: Logitech USB Optical Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-1/3-1:1.0/input/input7
generic-usb 0003:046D:C018.0001: input: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Logitech USB Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1/input0
ieee1394: Host added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[00023f6181404b3e]
udev: starting version 149
Linux agpgart interface v0.103
yenta_cardbus 0000:06:04.0: CardBus bridge found [1179:ff00]
yenta_cardbus 0000:06:04.0: Enabling burst memory read transactions
yenta_cardbus 0000:06:04.0: Using CSCINT to route CSC interrupts to PCI
yenta_cardbus 0000:06:04.0: Routing CardBus interrupts to PCI
yenta_cardbus 0000:06:04.0: TI: mfunc 0x10aa1b22, devctl 0x66
lib80211: common routines for IEEE802.11 drivers
lib80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'NULL'
rtc_cmos 00:06: RTC can wake from S4
rtc_cmos 00:06: rtc core: registered rtc_cmos as rtc0
rtc0: alarms up to one month, y3k, 242 bytes nvram, hpet irqs
i801_smbus 0000:00:1f.3: PCI INT B -> Link[LNKD] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
i801_smbus 0000:00:1f.3: SMBus using PCI Interrupt
i2c-adapter i2c-0: adapter [SMBus I801 adapter at 20a0] registered
yenta_cardbus 0000:06:04.0: ISA IRQ mask 0x00f8, PCI irq 10
yenta_cardbus 0000:06:04.0: Socket status: 30000006
pci_bus 0000:06: Raising subordinate bus# of parent bus (#06) from #07 to #0a
yenta_cardbus 0000:06:04.0: pcmcia: parent PCI bridge I/O window: 0x6000 - 0x6fff
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: IO port probe 0x6000-0x6fff: clean.
yenta_cardbus 0000:06:04.0: pcmcia: parent PCI bridge Memory window: 0xc4000000 - 0xc40fffff
yenta_cardbus 0000:06:04.0: pcmcia: parent PCI bridge Memory window: 0x50000000 - 0x53ffffff
iTCO_vendor_support: vendor-support=0
8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.28
iTCO_wdt: Intel TCO WatchDog Timer Driver v1.05
iTCO_wdt: Found a ICH6-M TCO device (Version=2, TCOBASE=0x1060)
iTCO_wdt: initialized. heartbeat=30 sec (nowayout=0)
ieee80211: 802.11 data/management/control stack, git-1.1.13
ieee80211: Copyright (C) 2004-2005 Intel Corporation <jketreno@linux.intel.com>
ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.2.2kmprq
ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2006 Intel Corporation
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] enabled at IRQ 11
8139too 0000:06:01.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKF] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0x6000, 00:0f:b0:da:73:ef, IRQ 11
eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D'
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKG] enabled at IRQ 10
ipw2200 0000:06:02.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKG] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
ipw2200 0000:06:02.0: firmware: requesting ipw2200-bss.fw
8139cp: 10/100 PCI Ethernet driver v1.3 (Mar 22, 2004)
Intel ICH 0000:00:1e.2: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKB] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
Intel ICH 0000:00:1e.2: setting latency timer to 64
ipw2200: Detected geography ZZM (11 802.11bg channels, 0 802.11a channels)
intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 50307 usecs (2425 samples)
intel8x0: clocking to 48000
Intel ICH Modem 0000:00:1e.3: PCI INT B -> Link[LNKE] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
Intel ICH Modem 0000:00:1e.3: setting latency timer to 64
EXT3 FS on sda4, internal journal
fuse init (API version 7.11)
vboxdrv: Found 1 processor cores.
vboxdrv: TSC mode is 'synchronous', kernel timer mode is 'normal'.
vboxdrv: Successfully loaded version 3.0.8 (interface 0x000e0000).
[drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
pci 0000:01:00.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0
pci 0000:01:00.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKA] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
pci 0000:01:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
[drm] Initialized radeon 1.30.0 20080528 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 0
NTFS volume version 3.1.
Adding 1004052k swap on /dev/sda3. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:1004052k
[drm] Setting GART location based on new memory map
[drm] Loading R300 Microcode
[drm] Num pipes: 1
[drm] writeback test succeeded in 1 usecs
lib80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'WEP'
ACPI: EC: non-query interrupt received, switching to interrupt mode
usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=152d, idProduct=2338
usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=5
usb 1-1: Product: USB to ATA/ATAPI Bridge
usb 1-1: Manufacturer: JMicron
usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 5812271602C2
usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
usb-storage: device found at 3
usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access SAMSUNG HM160HC PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 CCS
sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
usb-storage: device scan complete
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 312581808 512-byte hardware sectors: (160 GB/149 GiB)
[b]sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 38 00 00
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
sdb: sdb1
sdb: p1 size 312592707 limited to end of disk
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk[/b]
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questo dmesg è del 2.6.30 ma è praticamente equivalente agli altri 2: il kernel rileva sia la batteria sia l'inserimentohd esterno.
ce qualcosa che è "saltato via" di kde ma non ho fatto alcuna disistallazione negli ultimi 6 mesi....ke posso fare? |
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darkmanPPT Veteran


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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:23 am Post subject: |
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prova a fare cosi` (prima di entrare in kde)
insomma, è come se cancellassi i files di configurazione di kde.
magari il problema è solo là...
(immagino tu abbia già guardato con revdep-rebuild se le librerie sono tutte ok) _________________ Darkman |
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Maialovic Apprentice

Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 255
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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fatto sia la cancellazione configurazione kde sia revdep-rebuild.
credo che alla fine il problema sia dovuto allo spegnimento forzato che ha subito il pc dopo che si era freezato e che ha "ofanato" 8 cluster della partizione |
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Maialovic Apprentice

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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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ho provato a ricompilare solid e solid-* e powerdevil ma nessuna novita a riguardo.
in piu guardando in "Gestione Energetica --> Impostazioni di Sistema" mi dice "Numero CPU 0; Numero Batterie 0". Non vi suona strano anche a voi? cosa puo essere dato ciò? sto impazzendo.
Se non mi sbaglio i problemi sono nati da quando è stato aggiornato dbus. Per si e x no ho reinstallato hal e dbus ma il problema persiste.
In KInfoCenter non riesco a vedere le info riguardanti CPU, partizioni, credo diversi interrupts e nelle periferiche USB non riconosce piu l'HD esterno. |
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Maialovic Apprentice

Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 255
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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alla fine è un problema di dbus ke è stato aggiornato alla versione 1.2.24, facendo un downgrade si è sistemato tutto. |
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k01 Arch/Herd Tester


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anche io ho avuto parecchi problemi con questo aggiornamento di dbus, mah...  |
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devilheart l33t


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Maialovic Apprentice

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cloc3 Advocate


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allora l'avresti dovuta citare esplicitamente fin dall'inizio.
altrimenti chiedi un aiuto nascondendo una parte di informazioni.
non è corretto nei confronti degli altri, ma soprattutto non ti aiuta. _________________ vu vu vu
gentù
mi piaci tu |
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