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ese002 Apprentice


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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:29 am Post subject: new hplip will not print double sided |
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I recently upgraded hplip to 3.9.12-r1
At first, I couldn't print at all but re-ran hp-setup and, with the new configuration, I can now print.
What I can't do is print double-sided. Firefox and OpenOffice no longer show an option for double sided. I've made sure that my paper source was Letter-autoduplex but it doesn't seem to make any difference.
Any ideas? My printer in a Photosmart c7280. It used to print double sided just fine. Unfortunately, I don't what the old version was, but it was current in October of last year. |
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Gankfest l33t


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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:39 am Post subject: |
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Works with net-print/hplip-3.10.2-r4, but you might need to use your old ppd file for either version. _________________ Gankfest™ (>")> ~*
Everyone has to start somewhere, it depends on where you end up that counts! (>")> |
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ese002 Apprentice


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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:04 am Post subject: |
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I finally broke down and upgraded hplip to 3.10.5 (It was ~x86 at the time and I prefer to run as close to 100% stable as possible).
Unfortunately, it didn't help. I even deleted the existing printer definition and rebuilt and nothing changed. I still do not have the option of printing double sided. Any other ideas? |
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]grimm[ n00b

Joined: 04 Jun 2003 Posts: 44
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:21 pm Post subject: hpijs use flag |
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I had a similar problem with my printer, setting the hpijs use flag and re-emerging hplip fixed the issue for me. |
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DaggyStyle Watchman


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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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strange, it never prints double side on my printer _________________ Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein |
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d2_racing Bodhisattva


Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 13047 Location: Ste-Foy,Canada
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah me too, because on Linux, printing can be a real pain in the ass, at least for now I can print something, so I don't push my luck  |
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aCOSwt Bodhisattva

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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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d2_racing wrote: | printing can be a real pain in the ass |
Even more than just "can be". It is actually indeed as a matter of fact !
I can print double sided on my PhotoSmart 7260.
I run hplip 3.9.12-r1 but with the old hpijs driver (the hpcups having never been able to handle the bi-directional communication with my printer properly because of a sombre upstream bug, upstream does not care about...)
If you are running with hpcups, I suggest you remerge hplip with hpijs. (Of course, you will loose the hptoolbox facilities... )
(Warning 2 : Unless you run with cups >= 1.4, you will need usblp activated.)
(Warning 3 : If you run kde >= 4.4.4 , you should run cups >= 1.4) |
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DaggyStyle Watchman


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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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aCOSwt wrote: | d2_racing wrote: | printing can be a real pain in the ass |
Even more than just "can be". It is actually indeed as a matter of fact !
I can print double sided on my PhotoSmart 7260.
I run hplip 3.9.12-r1 but with the old hpijs driver (the hpcups having never been able to handle the bi-directional communication with my printer properly because of a sombre upstream bug, upstream does not care about...)
If you are running with hpcups, I suggest you remerge hplip with hpijs. (Of course, you will loose the hptoolbox facilities... )
(Warning 2 : Unless you run with cups >= 1.4, you will need usblp activated.)
(Warning 3 : If you run kde >= 4.4.4 , you should run cups >= 1.4) |
I've updated cups to 1.4, now I cannot add printers via the web interface.
how can I add them? _________________ Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein |
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DaggyStyle Watchman


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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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I ran hp-setup as root and were able to get it back _________________ Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein |
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d2_racing Bodhisattva


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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:54 am Post subject: |
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hp drivers are not stable at all... |
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username234 Guru

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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:50 am Post subject: Re: new hplip will not print double sided |
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ese002 wrote: | I recently upgraded hplip to 3.9.12-r1
At first, I couldn't print at all but re-ran hp-setup and, with the new configuration, I can now print.
What I can't do is print double-sided. Firefox and OpenOffice no longer show an option for double sided. I've made sure that my paper source was Letter-autoduplex but it doesn't seem to make any difference.
Any ideas? My printer in a Photosmart c7280. It used to print double sided just fine. Unfortunately, I don't what the old version was, but it was current in October of last year. | Make sure the duplexer is marked as installed. I'm running net-print/hplip-3.9.12-r1 with an officejet j6480 and I've noticed that these drivers like to pretend that the duplexer is not installed. Though I don't know why that would affect Firefox... (I just checked mine and the option to print two-sided is there). _________________ Creating usernames when you're
in a creative slump is a bad idea
because if you are when you do
then you end up with uninspiring
alphanumeric cocktails like the
one directly above. |
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ese002 Apprentice


Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 155
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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I dropped back to 3.9.12-r1 (stable) and emerged with hpjs
I see no change at all. HP Device manager shows
Basic: Page Orientation= Portrait, Duplex= Two Sided (long Edge)
Installable Options: Duplexer Installed= On
Oddly, but consistently, "Duplexer Installed" is greyed.
Firefox only offers "one sided"
OpenOffice offers Duplex "Off" and "Ignore" |
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aCOSwt Bodhisattva

Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Posts: 2537 Location: Hilbert space
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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After changing your driver for hplip, did you reinstall your printer via the cups interface ? |
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dmpogo Advocate

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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Since guys you are at it - what is the "proper modern" combination of hplip/cups/foomatic (and their options) for HP printers in your opinion ? |
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d2_racing Bodhisattva


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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe it's to manage the printer with hplip and double check if cups see it. |
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ese002 Apprentice


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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Reinstalling the printer via hp-setup (It's not obvious to me how to do with just CUPS) changes nothing.
Firefox still only gives me a "one sided" option.
OpenOffice will let me go through the motions if I change the Paper Size from "Letter" to "Letter Autoduplex". I can select Duplex of "Long Edge". However, when I print, no duplexing occurs and the setting changes back to "Off" for no apparent reason. |
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ese002 Apprentice


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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:06 am Post subject: Works with acroread |
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I have found an application that does print double sided: Acroread. I don't even have to specify that the duplexer is installed or use "Letter Autoduplex" page size. Acroread prints by piping to lpr vs whatever Firefox and Open Office do. |
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ese002 Apprentice


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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:00 am Post subject: OpenOffice only refuses to print double sided |
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Ok. Some progress.
I set Duplexer Installed: to "Installed" in CUPS. I don't know why it didn't follow the driver settings.
Firefox, Thunderbird, and Gnome Document Viewer now print double sided.
But still no luck with OpenOffice. Every time I print, it resets the Duplexer option to "off" and prints single sided. I also noticed that Word formated files always come up as A4, Duplex: Off even when saved as Letter, Duplex: On. Odt files retain the appropriate settings until I print. |
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DaggyStyle Watchman


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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:35 am Post subject: Re: OpenOffice only refuses to print double sided |
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ese002 wrote: | Ok. Some progress.
I set Duplexer Installed: to "Installed" in CUPS. I don't know why it didn't follow the driver settings.
Firefox, Thunderbird, and Gnome Document Viewer now print double sided.
But still no luck with OpenOffice. Every time I print, it resets the Duplexer option to "off" and prints single sided. I also noticed that Word formated files always come up as A4, Duplex: Off even when saved as Letter, Duplex: On. Odt files retain the appropriate settings until I print. |
where did you found that feature? _________________ Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein |
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ese002 Apprentice


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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:09 am Post subject: |
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Which feature? |
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DaggyStyle Watchman


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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:06 am Post subject: |
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ese002 wrote: | Which feature? |
setting Duplexer to "Installed" in CUPS _________________ Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein |
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ese002 Apprentice


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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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DaggyStyle wrote: | ese002 wrote: | Which feature? |
setting Duplexer to "Installed" in CUPS |
Start from the CUPS "Manage Printing" web interface.
Printers -> (your printer) -> Set Printer Options
There should be a grouping for "Options Installed" including "Duplexer Installed"
You can also chose "Letter Autoduplex" under "Media Options" but "Duplexer Installed" seems to be the important one. |
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