Can't type in Mozilla before minimizing

fhol

This is so strange. Whenever i start Mozilla or MozillaFirebird I can't type anywhere. Not in search engines search field nor in the address bar, but, when I minimize the application window and bring it back up again I can type! I have to do this every time I start Mozilla or Firebird and it is annoying like hell!

BTW, it doesn't happen in Opera.

Does anyone know anything about this?

Relevant information about my system:
AMD Athlon T-bird 1300, 512 Megs of SDR-SDRAM, Logitech Cordless Desktop MX.
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RexSum · n00b Joined: 11 Dec 2002 Posts: 19 Location: netherlands

it's a mozilla thingie, try another version? or wait until they fix it

fhol · Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 10:58 pm Post subject:

azote · Guru Joined: 17 Sep 2002 Posts: 415

yes I have some times the same problem ...

im running enlightenment...
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meowsqueak · Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:08 am Post subject:

I'm running fluxbox 0.1.14 and I have the same problem sometimes. I just switch to another workspace and back again and it seems to fix itself. I assume it's a Mozilla/Window-manager interaction bug and that someone will fix it one day. I'd do it myself but I have no idea where to start (nor do I have the time unfortunately).

MIT_Service · Guru Joined: 29 Nov 2002 Posts: 355

running fluxbox and had the same problem - however only with MozillaFirebird.
Reemerging it fixed it.

hrnick · Guru Joined: 31 Aug 2002 Posts: 425 Location: Sweden

I've had the same problem (at least when I used fluxbox). What I did was simply to
1) use opera as much as possible

2) since the problem occured when I switched workspaces as I was starting firebird I would usually go to the same workspace as firebird would start on, start firebird and don't do anything until the window appeared - that did the trick for me

are you sure that it is a "mozilla thingie"? I havn't thought of it before but I've not experienced this problem since I switched from fluxbox to fvwm. It's just a thought, it might just be a coincidence...

fhol · Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:21 pm Post subject:

I'm breaking the pattern here. Using KDE 3.1!

It may not be related to windowmanagers at all after all. I doubt that the same bug (combined with mozilla) exists in the three WM's mentioned. What if it has to do with X and mozilla? I dunno...

Glad to hear that I'm not the only one experiencing this tho. Hopefully, some developer will find the cause and fix it soon. I shall test the desktop-switching-kinda-solution and the other one, not disturbing mozillas startup process, meanwhile.

Thankyou for your replies!

Note: It didn't happen this time. I think the machine appreciated beeing left shutdowned today. Sorry uptime! :roll:

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christsong84 · Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:22 pm Post subject:

I had the problem with galeon (which uses mozilla as it's main engine). I just restarted it and it was fine.

btw: any way I can get the googlebar from galeon to normal mozilla? galeon is taking a lot more memory

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fhol · Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:24 pm Post subject:

(I'm having a hard time writing in english. Darn grammar! It takes forever to post a reply.)
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fhol · Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:27 pm Post subject:

christsong84 · Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:38 pm Post subject:

eh...not a whole lot unless you like gizmo's and gadgets...

I mainly installed it to smite my windows-using co-workers who were laughing 'cause I use linux and don't get a google bar.

It does little self-scrolling stuffs and some nifty little things in it's "bookmarklets" (cookie reading...page-age...just little useless stuff).
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fhol · Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 12:08 am Post subject:

meowsqueak · Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 12:12 am Post subject:

There's a nice googlebar clone called 'googlebox' that can be used with multizilla (*way* better Tabs for Mozilla - check it out).

http://multizilla.mozdev.org

christsong84 · Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 12:14 am Post subject:

Decibels · Veteran Joined: 16 Aug 2002 Posts: 1623 Location: U.S.A.

I have posted on this before, there is another post where it happens in Firebird also. Glad to see others posting that it is with other WM's also. Thought it was a KDE problem at first.
Haven't tried minimizing. Have found this works just find though:

When mozilla loses focus with the keyboard. Alt-TAB a few times and back to your mozilla window.

Works! Know not a fix, but quick work around. Used it about 5 times today.

No use complaining to mozilla, they will just say your using an older build and try the newest one.
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christsong84 · Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 4:15 pm Post subject:

*looks at multizilla...check portage*
EDIT: I realized you can install it direct from their website...so perhaps an ebuild would be overkill.
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meowsqueak · Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:53 pm Post subject:

Yeah, you don't need an ebuild - it's very straightforward to install (although I've had better results when installing as 'root').

-- Thor -- · n00b Joined: 31 Aug 2002 Posts: 49

Started happening to me after a hardware upgrade (read power down) yesterday. Have remerged it twice since -- same result. Fortunately my firebird has decided to work again.

So far this happens in xfce4, enlightenment (16), fluxbox, and gnome-2.4 for me.

Regards,

Jeff

mr_smidge · n00b Joined: 11 Aug 2003 Posts: 64 Location: London

I have the same problem here with firebird losing the ability to recognise keyboard input.. The switching-desktops solution is rather annoying for me as I tend to keep one of my desktops purely for browsing.. grrrrr.

I'm running kahakai 0.5..
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GenKreton · Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 3:01 pm Post subject:

hmm strange I have this problem but with gaim in fluxbox till I moved to kahakai. Even after updating the gaim version I still had a problem where a new im window would not accept text input until I selected another program and went back to it or opened a profile with the mouse. Don't know if they are posssibly related problems between programs and the window manager or not.

ozonator · Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 3:17 pm Post subject:

This problem has been reported on Mozilla's bugzilla for quite a while now -- for details see http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70812. A fix has been elusive, apparently, though it seems to have something to do with focus, i.e. where Mozilla thinks the focus is at a given time.

In my case, I haven't had the problem when initially starting Mozilla, but I have had it when dealing with forms, including when starting to type in the locatino bar. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to nail down an exact sequence that will reproduce the bug, but I've seen it on several Gecko-based browsers in Linux and MacOS X, over several versions. My fix is normally to use the menus to open a new browser window, enter a URL in the location bar, go to that site, then close the new window; after that, my original window accepts keyboard input again.

If any of you can provide more details, or an exact sequence for reproducing the bug, I'm sure the Mozilla foks will appreciate it.

hensan · l33t Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 868 Location: Sweden

Steps to reproduce:

1. Type text in Mozilla. Works fine.
2. Change vitual desktop.
3. Type something in a window in that desktop.
4. Switch back to Mozillas desktop.
5. No typing possible in Mozilla.

I noticed that if I click on the desktop next to the browser and then click on some textfield in Mozilla, typing is possible again, no need to minimize.

I'll submit this as a comment on the above mentioned bug in Mozillas Bugzilla as well...

mr_smidge · n00b Joined: 11 Aug 2003 Posts: 64 Location: London

hensan · l33t Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 868 Location: Sweden

I use KDE 3.1.4, I mentioned that in the Mozilla bugreport.