quake III arena

while true · Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 7:36 pm Post subject: quake III arena

Ola,

I am new to gentoo, it took me a while to make it work (some stiff still pending), but...

I just emerged my first game quake III arena.
"emerge games-fps/quake3"
The emerging was fast, like 5 minutes...
I use xfce desktop. In main menu I got Games and inside it Quake III arena.

But when I click on it, nothing happens...

I did usermod -G games <user>
but that did not help, in fact, I do not have the permission to go "su -" anymore!!!

Thank you.
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Chewi · Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 8:51 pm Post subject:

If you can't "su -" anymore then you have more to worry about than Quake 3. You need to be in the wheel group to do that. Log in as root directory from the console if you have to. If you're still having problems, it could be OpenGL related. Does other 3D stuff work?

while true · Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 9:27 pm Post subject:

Ola Chewi,

yes, I figured that I should log as root and add wheel and all other stuff, games also, kheh.
Now it is working. It seems that I can not add just one group to user with usermod -G games <user>, since it cancels all others...

Right now I emerged open arena, but... it is quite slower that it used to be...
When I say 'used to be' I mean when I had ubuntu. There it was running ok, bit here on Gentoo it is a bit slow, I think it is the frames, but I am no expert and I am saying frames just so it sound that I know what I am talking about...

So mouse is slower, pictures are slower.

Quake still no response.

How do I check if I have OpenGL? From here it looks like I have it:

Chewi · Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 9:39 pm Post subject:

I didn't realise you'd literally typed that. I think there is a command for adding users to groups but I can never remember what it is. I usually edit /etc/groups directly. Probably shouldn't recommend that.

It's not as simple as merely "having" OpenGL. Tell us what graphics card you have and post the output of glxinfo so we can see what drivers you're using.

crazymonito · n00b Joined: 01 Feb 2010 Posts: 68 Location: Boulder, CO

To add the user to a specific group without removing all of the other ones use this command:

Chewi · Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 10:40 pm Post subject:

That's the one! I knew it had some totally non-obvious name.

pingufunkybeat · l33t Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 610

What's the output of "glxinfo |grep enGL" ?

What is the output if you try to start the game from a terminal? Any error messages?

antonlacon · Apprentice Joined: 27 Jun 2004 Posts: 257

You need to copy Quake's datafiles off the CD before it will run. The ebuild message tells you where (somewhere in /opt I think). You've only emerged the engine to run it.

crazymonito · n00b Joined: 01 Feb 2010 Posts: 68 Location: Boulder, CO

while true · Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 9:18 am Post subject:

Ola,

Thanks for tips how to add group to existing user, I will have to remember that, kheh.

About the game,
First I searched for Open Arena in Gentoo portage web site.
And I saw Quake, and I said I should try something different that Open Arena.
So I did like so:
"emerge games-fps/quake3"
And running it does nothing.

But, since I had no game to play yesterday (I had the urge to shut something)
I also installed Open Arena, That is different game, I think...
And this one is running slow. On same machine when ubuntu was on, it played nicely.

On GL (as root):

Chewi · Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 9:53 am Post subject:

You do need the CD, only the engine is free. There are plenty of free (and arguably better) games that use the engine though. Also, glxinfo is part of mesa-progs, forgot to mention you need to emerge that first.

ppurka · Advocate Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 3256

If you really want quake, one option is to play quakelive.

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pingufunkybeat · l33t Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 610

Yes, Quake3 is a commercial game, only the engine was open-sourced. You need the original CD in order to make use of the quake3 ebuild in portage. That's exactly what the game is telling you (pak0.pk3 holds the game data).

OpenArena is a decent reimplementation with all-free content and exactly the same gameplay. Otherwise, you can try QuakeLive -- it works in Firefox (but not in Webkit-based browsers atm). OpenArena feels and plays almost exactly the same as Quake3Arena, and has enough servers during most hours, though not as many as QuakeLive.

Install mesa-progs and report the output of "glxinfo |grep enGL".

while true · Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 9:00 pm Post subject:

Ola,

glxinfo |grep enGL:

ppurka · Advocate Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 3256

Chewi · Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 9:25 pm Post subject:

Add VIDEO_CARDS="radeon" to your make.conf and remerge mesa. Also switch to xf86-video-ati if you're not using it already. You also need Radeon DRM enabled in your kernel.

pingufunkybeat · l33t Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 610

What Chewi said. The "Software Rasterizer" part of the glxinfo output means that you don't have any 3d acceleration enabled, which makes any 3d game too slow to be playable.

Your chipset is supported by the open source radeon driver, and you need to build it properly. Try doing what Chewi said, and then we'll see where to take it from there.

while true · Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 2:15 pm Post subject:

Ola guys,

I already had VIDEO_CARDS="radeon" in my make.conf file.

How can I switch to xf86-video-ati? Is this for emerging?
I have this, with emerge:

Chewi · Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 2:25 pm Post subject:

That's great! Thought you might have to do a little more, glad it was so easy. I would recommend some of the free ones but I've never really played any of them. Don't have enough time to play!

pingufunkybeat · l33t Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 610