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Guayasil n00b
Joined: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 71
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 8:03 am Post subject: Is an x86 a strange architecture? |
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http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml:
The latest alpha install ISO is from 10.05.2010
The latest sparc install ISO is from 10.05.2010
Tha latest x86 install ISO is from 16.02.2010...
I missed any anouncement about the x86 architecture abadonment? |
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phajdan.jr Retired Dev
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 1777 Location: Poland
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 9:59 am Post subject: |
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I think that what really matters is the stage tarball, and not the installation .iso. You can successfully install recent Gentoo with a three-year-old CD.
If you're still concerned about this, feel free to file a bug for the release engineers.
By the way, auto-generated three-months old install CD is still quite leading-edge, isn't it? _________________ http://phajdan-jr.blogspot.com/ |
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Guayasil n00b
Joined: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 71
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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phajdan.jr wrote: | I think that what really matters is the stage tarball, and not the installation .iso. You can successfully install recent Gentoo with a three-year-old CD. |
Not exactly.
1. New installation ISO = new kernel = new drivers. If you got a cuting edge hardware (for example: a HDD controller) it *makes* a difference.
2. Weekly, than mothly autobuild releases were introduced to replace a quaterly or yearly releases with most up-to-date, imperfect but frequent ones... It those are quite rare maybe it's time to return to the idea of 2010.1, .2, .3 and .4 cycle. |
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gerard27 Advocate
Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 2377 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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phajdan.jr
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Gerard. _________________ To install Gentoo I use sysrescuecd.Based on Gentoo,has firefox to browse Gentoo docs and mc to browse (and edit) files.
The same disk can be used for 32 and 64 bit installs.
You can follow the Handbook verbatim.
http://www.sysresccd.org/Download |
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Ant P. Watchman
Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 6920
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Guayasil wrote: | 1. New installation ISO = new kernel = new drivers. If you got a cuting edge hardware (for example: a HDD controller) it *makes* a difference.
2. Weekly, than mothly autobuild releases were introduced to replace a quaterly or yearly releases with most up-to-date, imperfect but frequent ones... It those are quite rare maybe it's time to return to the idea of 2010.1, .2, .3 and .4 cycle. |
But there's a billion other x86-based distros out there you can use the liveCDs from to install Gentoo, not so much with alpha/sparc. |
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1clue Advocate
Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 2569
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Can you even buy an x86 system anymore? I mean in terms of a desktop machine, not in terms of an embedded controller.
Edit: My point being, if nobody is selling new 32-bit intel hardware, then newer hardware isn't going to be on it either. |
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Ant P. Watchman
Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 6920
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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I've got an Asus laptop and desktop, both made in the last 2 years, both with 32-bit Atom CPUs. Pointlessly crippled IMO, but Intel's still making them for some reason. |
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1clue Advocate
Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 2569
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Pardon me for sounding critical.
About 6 months ago, I bought an Asus 64-bit laptop with a webcam and Windows 7 on it for $250, limit 2 per customer and while supplies last. I got the last one and had to fight for it. I was so giddy at the idea of a 64-bit laptop with a web cam that I didn't realize that I had actually purchased a Windows license for the first time in my 44 years on this planet.
Your 32 bit systems must have been virtually free.
On top of that, I found the thing so slow compared to my other hardware that I never used it more than once or twice. I "loaned" it to a friend of mine, but I doubt I'll ever see it again. To me, the hardware is so crappy and slow I didn't want to waste time putting Linux on it.
It takes all kinds to make the world go around. To me, Linux is what goes on the good hardware, not on the plain-jane stuff. Good luck and have fun. |
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Simba7 l33t
Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 706 Location: Billings, MT, USA
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 1:26 am Post subject: |
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phajdan.jr wrote: | I think that what really matters is the stage tarball, and not the installation .iso. You can successfully install recent Gentoo with a three-year-old CD.
If you're still concerned about this, feel free to file a bug for the release engineers.
By the way, auto-generated three-months old install CD is still quite leading-edge, isn't it? |
I'd rather use the SysRescCD myself. More up-to-date kernel and filesystems.
Installing Gentoo from a three-year-old CD is going to cause him/her to go completely bald, not to mention a possible trip to the insane asylum. |
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