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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:43 am    Post subject: PBM: glibc-2.11 - all locale names are unknown! Reply with quote

Hi all.

I've just upgraded to glibc-2.11.2 and now none of my locales seems known:
locale POSIX:
locale: unknown name "POSIX"

locale fr_BE:
locale: unknown name "fr_BE"

locale fr_BE.utf8:
locale: unknown name "fr_BE.utf8"

locale fr_BE.UTF-8:
locale: unknown name "fr_BE.UTF-8"

I also got these warnings while compiling glibc:
Code:
[sys-libs/glibc-2.11.2] bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8)
/bin/bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8)
/var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.11.2/temp/environment: line 89: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8)
/var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.11.2/temp/environment: line 89: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8)
/bin/bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8)
/bin/bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8)

Here's my locale.gen file:
Code:
en_GB ISO-8859-1
en_GB.ISO-8859-15 ISO-8859-15
#en_GB.utf8 UTF-8
en_GB.UTF-8 UTF-8
en_US ISO-8859-1
en_US.ISO-8859-15 ISO-8859-15
#en_US.utf8 UTF-8
en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
fr_BE ISO-8859-1
#fr_BE.utf8 UTF-8
fr_BE.UTF-8 UTF-8
fr_BE@euro ISO-8859-15
fr_FR ISO-8859-1
#fr_FR.utf8 UTF-8
fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8
fr_FR@euro ISO-8859-15

I have just added the lines with «.UTF-8» as it's how they appear on Debian (glibc-2.7). I also have a locale file, /etc/env.d/02locale that says:
Code:
# For PostgreSQL initial configuration:
LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8"

LC_CTYPE="fr_BE.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="fr_BE.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="fr_BE.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="fr_BE.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="fr_BE.UTF-8"

This has worked up until I upgraded glibc to version 2.11 :( . Weirdly enough these locales seem yet available:
locale -a:
C
en_GB
en_GB.iso88591
en_GB.iso885915
en_GB.utf8
en_US
en_US.iso88591
en_US.iso885915
en_US.utf8
fran�ais
fr_BE
fr_BE@euro
fr_BE.iso88591
fr_BE.iso885915@euro
fr_BE.utf8
french
fr_FR
fr_FR@euro
fr_FR.iso88591
fr_FR.iso885915@euro
fr_FR.utf8
POSIX

Note I don't know why «fran�ais» appears this ways as I have installed several Debian servers and that particular locale appears as «français». What I find weird is that it's «fran�ais» on all Gentoo machines I ever configured, which suggests I do have a locale problem.

Fact is I don't know how to fix it.

Thanks a lot for any hint or suggestion.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, nobody is responding ... what happens when you run locale-gen?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've run locale-gen, of course, run env-update && source /etc/profile, as usual. The issue with unknown locales isn't fixed. That is why I posted here. Strangely enough, that is 2.11 specific as my other Gentoo machine (which lists «fran�ais» instead of «français», like Debian) has glibc 2.10 and doesn't exhibit that issue.

I have recompiled glibc twice now. I don't get the error message (setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8 ) ) during compile time anymore. My locales seem to work (i.e. nano window appears in french if I set LC_ALL to fr_BE.UTF-8) but the locale command doesn't work as expected with a valid locale argument.

BTW I've seen at least two distinct ways to setup /etc/locale.gen. Should we write, for instance "fr_BE.utf8 UTF-8" or "fr_BE.UTF-8 UTF-8"? How can we figure out which one? The only thing I'm certain is Debian uses the latter.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

I don't have any problem with my locale but different settings

Make.conf : LINGUAS="fr"

/etc/env.d/02locale : LANG="fr_BE.utf8"


/etc/locale.gen
en_US ISO-8859-1
en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
fr_BE ISO-8859-1
fr_BE@euro ISO-8859-15
fr_BE.UTF-8 UTF-8

Kernel config :

CONFIG_NLS=y
CONFIG_NLS_DEFAULT="utf8"
CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_437=y
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_737 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_775 is not set
CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_850=y
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_852 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_855 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_857 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_860 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_861 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_862 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_863 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_864 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_865 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_866 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_869 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_936 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_950 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_932 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_949 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_874 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_8 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_1250 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_1251 is not set
CONFIG_NLS_ASCII=y
CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_1=y
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_2 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_3 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_4 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_5 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_6 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_7 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_9 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_13 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_14 is not set
CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_15=y
# CONFIG_NLS_KOI8_R is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_KOI8_U is not set
CONFIG_NLS_UTF8=y

Can you verify : eselect python list (default 2.6 NOT 3.1)
This solve your problem ?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@USTruck

Reading your post I no longer understand anything at all to localization in UNIX :( . There's a mix between keywords spelling "utf8" and "UTF-8" but when the Hell do I know where/when/why to use which of these? Shouldn't you use either "utf8" or "UTF-8" all over the place, i.e. in /etc/locale.gen AND /etc/env.d/02locale ?

EDIT: To answer your question
zegrep '^CONFIG_NLS' /proc/config.gz:
CONFIG_NLS=y
CONFIG_NLS_DEFAULT="utf8"
CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_437=y
CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_850=y
CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_1250=y
CONFIG_NLS_ASCII=y
CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_1=y
CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_15=y
CONFIG_NLS_UTF8=y

eselect python list:
Available Python interpreters:
  [1]   python2.6 *

In all cases, locale <any locale> returns «locale: unknown name: ["..."]».
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello

About utf8 and UTF-8 : between settings of my station (learning), I find that to set (locale.gen) a usage are "UTF-8" and to use it (02locale) a correct set are "utf8" (why ????)

But to see what locale are used type : locale
like :
Code:
alien@alien  $ locale
LANG=fr_BE.utf8
LC_CTYPE="fr_BE.utf8"
LC_NUMERIC="fr_BE.utf8"
LC_TIME="fr_BE.utf8"
LC_COLLATE="fr_BE.utf8"
LC_MONETARY="fr_BE.utf8"
LC_MESSAGES="fr_BE.utf8"
LC_PAPER="fr_BE.utf8"
LC_NAME="fr_BE.utf8"
LC_ADDRESS="fr_BE.utf8"
LC_TELEPHONE="fr_BE.utf8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="fr_BE.utf8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="fr_BE.utf8"
LC_ALL=


Too see all installed locale : locale -a

Under my station when I use your exemple

Code:
alien@alien $ locale fr_BE.utf8
locale: unknown name "fr_BE.utf8"
alien@alien $ locale fr_BE.UTF-8
locale: unknown name "fr_BE.UTF-8"


I have exactly same error
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, I feel less lonely at once :D .

Do you have the same error with "C", "POSIX" ?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes with your exemple NO with my

locale -a | grep POSIX
locale -a | grep C
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ATTENTION : I find some information about UTF settings (I research source to provide)

DO NOT SET LC_ALL, only LANG under 02locale
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

USTruck wrote:
Yes with your exemple NO with my

locale -a | grep POSIX
locale -a | grep C

Maybe it's just not a problem after all... With <glibc-2.11, there's no output from the locale command when passing it a locale name. With 2.11 it outputs a message. Now I really wonder what is supposed to be passed as the <name> argument...
man locale:
...
NAME
       locale - get locale-specific information

SYNOPSIS
       locale [-a| -m]

       locale [-ck] name...
...
OPERANDS
       The following operand shall be supported:

       name   The  name  of a locale category as defined in the Base Definitions volume of
              IEEE Std 1003.1-2001, Chapter 7, Locale, the name of a keyword in  a  locale
              category,  or the reserved name charmap. The named category or keyword shall
              be selected for output. If a single name represents both a  locale  category
              name  and a keyword name in the current locale, the results are unspecified.
              Otherwise, both category and keyword names can be specified  as  name  oper‐
              ands, in any sequence. It is implementation-defined whether any keyword val‐
              ues are written for the categories LC_CTYPE and LC_COLLATE.

Heck, fr_BE or fr_BE.UTF-8 are locale names, right?

USTruck wrote:
ATTENTION : I find some information about UTF settings (I research source to provide)

DO NOT SET LC_ALL, only LANG under 02locale

Yes, I already fixed that.
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