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divago
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 Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:43 pm Post subject: what can i delete to save disk space? |
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hi all
i'm installing gentoo on a eeepc 900p
is working fine, save for looooong emerging time (my goal is to emerge all i need then don't emerge anymore  )
but today i got first serious problem: no space left on device
(i already checked inodes and i got enought inode left)
the problem is: my eeepc got 2 SSD, a 4 GB one and a 16 GB one
i mounted / on /dev/sda1 (4 GB)
and /home on /dev/sdb1 (16 GB)
then today morning /dev/sda1 was full, no space left on device
i had to say "ouch".
i deleted /var/tmp/portage/* and /usr/portage/distfiles/* and now i got over 1 GB free so i hope i could start again installing
btw the problem is...
there is some files/directory i could freely delete?
and some files/directory i should keep clean to save disk space (like regularly keeping clean /usr/portage/distfiles/ ...)
thank you for helping |
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Jaglover
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd put portage to sdb. |
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XQYZ
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: what can i delete to save disk space? |
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| divago wrote: | | my goal is to emerge all i need then don't emerge anymore |
Best idea ever. For netbooks, just go with a distcc-host or use a binary distro (maybe try arch if you like something gentooish). The way you intend to use your System Gentoo just makes little sense. |
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eccerr0r
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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I've found a root partition of 4G makes it very unpleasant to install Gentoo on. This was for my eeePC 900a
As stated before, it's best to put portage and its distfiles on another, larger disk.
in make.conf:
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/some/bigger/disk/to/stick/compilation/temporaries
PORTDIR=/some/bigger/disk/to/store/portage/tree
DISTDIR=/some/bigger/disk/to/store/distfiles
Other things that you can try:
in make.conf: FEATURES=nodoc noinfo
Another thing I found helpful was app-admin/localepurge to delete unused locales.
Also make sure /etc/locale.gen contains only the locales you need.
Currently I've got a full Gnome install, firefox, etc. but only have 747MB free on the 4G partition. This is with portage/distfiles on another disk.
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You can use this at least :
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Jaglover
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depontius
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: what can i delete to save disk space? |
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| XQYZ wrote: | | divago wrote: | | my goal is to emerge all i need then don't emerge anymore |
Best idea ever. For netbooks, just go with a distcc-host or use a binary distro (maybe try arch if you like something gentooish). The way you intend to use your System Gentoo just makes little sense. |
I would certainly hope that's what he means to do, as opposed to "install and forget." (forget updates, that is)
Assuming he is talking of using another system as a binhost, the contents of /var/tmp/portage and /usr/portage/distfiles are certainly surplus.
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divago
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| eccerr0r wrote: | I've found a root partition of 4G makes it very unpleasant to install Gentoo on. This was for my eeePC 900a
As stated before, it's best to put portage and its distfiles on another, larger disk. |
Oohhh very good
i tried also using a 8 gb sdhc mounting it into /var/tmp/portage... but does'nt work (portage need permission afaik xD )
changing tmpdir to a bigger disc is way a better idea
tyvm
ps the i don't mean "install then forgot"
i mean "install then you don'nt need to format your drive and reinstall again all every 6 months" like some other distro with african name è_é
pps: now i changed directory to
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PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/home/portage/tmp
PORTDIR=/home/portage/tree
DISTDIR=/home/portage/distfile
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where /home is where i mounted /dev/sdb1
i need/can delete older portage tree/distfile/tmp directory?
they are:
/usr/portage/
/usr/portage/distfile
/var/tmp/portage
right? can i safely remove them? |
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Ormaaj
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Disk space is so cheap these days they're practically giving it away. Go grab a 2 TB disk for ~ $100
Someone write an abstraction for gmail on a FUSE filesystem... then Google would be literally giving it away. Hell, sign up for 2-3 accounts and merge em together transparently. |
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Jimini
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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I would mount /usr and /home on sdb - 16 gigs should be really enough for everyday-use. If not, just get a small ssd (40 gigs or so) and replace sdb.
Best regards,
Jimini
P.S.: I would rather buy more diskspace than changing the distro :D
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eccerr0r
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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I still keep my old 4G SSD though I replaced it with a 32G. However due to trying to keep as little as possible on my SSD, I currently keep portage, portagetmp, and distfiles on different disks (external USB and SDHC). Also in case I want to move back to the 4G SSD (or if I want to perhaps distribute my 4GB Gentoo install to people having problems installing onto their eee's...)
| divago wrote: | i need/can delete older portage tree/distfile/tmp directory?
they are:
/usr/portage/
/usr/portage/distfile
/var/tmp/portage
right? can i safely remove them? |
Yes, they can be deleted. With them redirected to the bigger disk, the old ones aren't needed anymore. I just cleared them but didn't delete the actual directories...
| Ormaaj wrote: | Disk space is so cheap these days they're practically giving it away. Go grab a 2 TB disk for ~ $100
Someone write an abstraction for gmail on a FUSE filesystem... then Google would be literally giving it away. Hell, sign up for 2-3 accounts and merge em together transparently. |
Try fitting a 2TB disk into an eeePC... (at least my 900A has no space for even a 2.5" HDD. It has only a mini pcie SSD.)
I wish I could. Absolutely no space for one  External ones would virtually double a poor eee's travel weight and volume...
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Ant P.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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Install localepurge, and make sure locale.gen is set correctly. That should save a few MB more. You might want to uninstall python 3.1 too, you only need 2.6 to use emerge & co.
Also use squashfs + unionfs, like the eee's default distro does. Compressing /usr/ is the easiest way to gain from it, any more and you'll probably end up needing a custom initramfs. |
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divago
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| Jimini wrote: | | I would mount /usr and /home on sdb - 16 gigs should be really enough for everyday-use. |
mmmhhh
mounting two different directory to same physical disk? never tried...
it's easy like a
# mount /dev/sdb1/home /home
# mount /dev/sdb1/usr /usr
right?
i go trying then
otherwise, i could even use SDHC for standard /usr...
| eccerr0r wrote: | | divago wrote: | i need/can delete older portage tree/distfile/tmp directory?
they are:
/usr/portage/
/usr/portage/distfile
/var/tmp/portage
right? can i safely remove them? |
Yes, they can be deleted. With them redirected to the bigger disk, the old ones aren't needed anymore. I just cleared them but didn't delete the actual directories... |
Ok so i'll do then
ty everyone |
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Jimini
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| divago wrote: | | Jimini wrote: | | I would mount /usr and /home on sdb - 16 gigs should be really enough for everyday-use. |
mmmhhh
mounting two different directory to same physical disk? never tried...
it's easy like a
# mount /dev/sdb1/home /home
# mount /dev/sdb1/usr /usr
right?
i go trying then :) |
No no, just create two partitions - /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2. Then you mount /home and /usr as usual.
Best regards,
Jimini
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divago
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| Jimini wrote: | No no, just create two partitions - /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2. Then you mount /home and /usr as usual.
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ouch ok fine
for a little while i hoped i could do it without partitioning
(mmmhhh how much bigger /usr i'll need? and /home? suggestions? ) |
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Jimini
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| divago wrote: | | (mmmhhh how much bigger /usr i'll need? and /home? suggestions? :) ) |
That depends on how you plan to use your pc. Do you want to store many (big) files in your home directory? Which desktop environment are you going to use?
You could also think about putting /, /boot and swap on /dev/sdb (the bigger drive) and /home on /dev/sda (the smaller drive).
The reason is, that with that solution you are more flexible - the more seperate mountpoints you have, the more flexibility you lose. It can be very annoying to use the machine for a few weeks or months and have no free diskspace left on /usr.
But that is only my personal opinion :)
Best regards,
Jimini
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divago
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Jimini wrote: | | divago wrote: | | (mmmhhh how much bigger /usr i'll need? and /home? suggestions? ) |
That depends on how you plan to use your pc. Do you want to store many (big) files in your home directory? Which desktop environment are you going to use?
You could also think about putting /, /boot and swap on /dev/sdb (the bigger drive) and /home on /dev/sda (the smaller drive).
The reason is, that with that solution you are more flexible - the more seperate mountpoints you have, the more flexibility you lose. It can be very annoying to use the machine for a few weeks or months and have no free diskspace left on /usr. |
mmmhhh ok
i got fluxbox installed;
planning to install some other useful programs like openoffice (maybe i'll emerge openoffice-bin or i'll need a full week vacation to install openoffice ), a pdf reader, maybe thunderbird (maybe) and/or pidgin
i'd use a lot of pdf and/or documents so /home could be big
my concern is:
my /usr directory actually wear 2,1 GB (after i moved portage dir to /home/portage) and that's 99% of /dev/sda1 disk usage
i got 1,3+ GiB (according to conky's monitoring)
at the moment, don't seems to me a need
if/when i'll need it, i could always move /usr to another disk/partition |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| divago wrote: | | for a little while i hoped i could do it without partitioning :) |
Sure you can. Just mount the actual partition somewhere else (/media/sdb1 or whatever), then use | Code: | | mount -o bind <srcdir> <dstdir> |
(or rather put the bind option into fstab)
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